Analog Corner #285: Top Wing Suzaku, HiFiction Thales, Analysis Plus Page 2

The Red Sparrow's design is apparently unique, and so was its sound, in a very good way: smooth, airy, velvety, and vivid, with a particularly rich midrange that I wanted to sink my ears into. It was only the second cartridge of my experience to produce this much harmonic and textural generosity, in combination with exceptional transparency, quiet groove tracing, and a secure sense that all of this was being produced at the expense of very little or nothing elsewhere in the sound. That other cartridge was Grado Labs' Lineage Epoch, which costs $12,000, and which I wrote about in my December 2017 column. $16,500? $12,000? Who's counting?

Impressive resolution of low-level detail and an airy top end didn't make me think "moving magnet," nor did the Red Sparrow have the sluggishness usually associated with MMs. Nor did it produce the edgy, mechanical sound of some MCs (though none at this price). On the other hand, while the Red Sparrow's rhythm'n'pace were fast and exciting, its transient attacks were, overall, more polite than direct and immediate. Cymbals steamed more than they sizzled, but since the top-to-bottom presentation was consistent, it all sounded coherent and correct.

As I type this I'm listening to a new reissue of jazz pianist Chick Corea's Now He Sings, Now He Sobs (LP, Solid State/Tone Poet/Blue Note B00293673-01). It's one of Blue Note's Tone Poet releases, a series of reissues overseen by Joe Harley, of Music Matters and AudioQuest, and cut by Kevin Gray directly from the original master tapes of these sessions, recorded in March 1968 at Phil Ramone's A&R Studios by Don Hahn, whose résumé ranges from the Band's Music from Big Pink to Shirley Bassey's Live At Carnegie Hall.

It's useful to play an unfamiliar record after one you know well—hearing similarities between them gives you an idea of the cartridge's personality. The piano sound, at center stage, had more wood than it did in-your-face transients—more sustain and decay than attack. In Roy Haynes's drumming I heard more stick than cymbal, and his tom resonated more convincingly than did the impacts themselves—though those, too, were good. It will be interesting to hear this record with a familiar cartridge.

Next up was John Williams's Liberty Fanfare (it's similar to the theme he wrote for NBC's Nightly News), from the late Dave Wilson's sonic spectacular Winds of War and Peace, performed by Lowell Graham and the National Symphonic Winds (LP, Wilson Audio/Analogue Productions W/APP 8823). This one I'm very familiar with. The mallet-of-death bass-drum thwacks were delivered with great speed and generous sustain, but not with ultimate stomach-socking punch. The sound of the hall was generously and convincingly reproduced behind the strings and brass, which had all of the extension and air, but somewhat less of the possible bite.

Another sonic spectacular, a collection of music for brass ensemble by Morera, Bartók, and Rameau, performed by Equale Brass (45rpm LP, Nimbus 45010), confirmed the above as well as this: The Red Sparrow's reproduction of soundstage width, depth, and height—of space—was generous.

This cartridge was all about instrumental colors and textures, somewhat less about hard transients and bright lights. But once I'd acclimated to its sound, it was transportive and convincing. And because its sound was fast and effervescent, it was exciting as hell—though in the wrong system it could probably sound "squooshy."

That's all I have to say about this interesting cartridge, other than: If you like the Ben Webster's tenor-saxophone sound, its reproduction by the Top Wing Suzaku (Red Sparrow) will give you chills. But if you prefer electric blues guitar and hard-edged rock, it's probably not the ideal cartridge for you—although, if paired with a somewhat edgy-sounding phono preamp, maybe it would be. In the right system with the right phono preamp and reproducing the right music (acoustic jazz and classical), the Red Sparrow will make some well-off audiophiles very happy.

HiFiction Thales Statement tonearm
In the early 2000s, Swiss watchmaker Micha Huber decided to use his skills to design a tangential-tracking pivoted tonearm, and in 2004 he was granted a patent for his original design. I reviewed that arm in my October 2010 column as part of the Audiostone, a complete system of turntable, tonearm, and rack. The general design principles of the first Thales arm also hold true for Huber's latest arm, the Statement (footnote 2).

Huber's first attempt at tangential tracking was in some ways as kludgy as Peter Cheon's Klaudio KD-ARM-AG12 tangential tracker, which I wrote about in my January 2019 column. An odd contraption, the HiFiction Thales AV had a main structure that resembled a seal balancing on its nose the arm's complex main Cardanic pivot. The Thales AV looked like a normal pivoted tonearm to whose headshell a more slender, auxiliary arm had been grafted, at an approximate 45° angle. That auxiliary arm was articulated, with a vertical segment terminating in a secondary Cardanic bearing hidden below plinth level—all of this to properly angle the headshell to produce perfect tangency between stylus and groove across a record's entire playing surface. It was a beginning, if an awkward one.

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Over time, Huber developed more elegant pivoted tangential trackers, as well as his own compact, high-precision turntables, including the battery-powered TTT-Compact II, one of which was supplied for this review of the Statement arm.

The first thing to notice about the elegant-looking Statement ($21,090) is that, unlike other Thales arms, its complex Cardanic bearing is encapsulated within a doubly convex housing, which is claimed to increase its mechanical rigidity by a factor of 100. The new bearing, said to ensure "low impedance connection points," is a five-axis design using 10 micro ball bearings. Its twin armtubes are made of a special, "steel-strength" aluminum alloy claimed to provide 10 times the internal damping of steel. These are "naturally aged," then "relaxed," before being attached, at the front, to an articulated headshell, while two counterweights at the rear end of the arm move as the two armtubes slide by each other to accommodate the headshell's correct and constantly changing angle of orientation—tangency—to the groove. The maximum tracking error is a claimed 0.006°.

Fine vernier adjustments for both VTA (0.1mm increments) and azimuth (1/3° increments) and a precision stylus-overhang gauge make possible precise, repeatable setup of all parameters. The Statement's effective length is 9", and its effective mass is 25gm. A newly designed clamping mechanism built into the arm base allows for accurate on-the-fly VTA adjustments. If you didn't know this complex yet compact system was designed by a watchmaker, you might have guessed it anyway.

Despite its simple exterior, the Statement comprises 288 finely machined parts sourced from various Swiss vendors, including five different counterweights designed to accommodate cartridges weighing from 7 to 20gm. The armtubes, headshell, and counterweights of the supplied Statement Silver—the arm's standard level of finish—were all coated with rhodium; the base ring, shaft, and bearing unit were coated with ruthenium. There's also a Gold edition ($22,780). The packing is what you'd expect at these prices.

Setting up and precisely optimizing the Thales Statement is relatively easy, even pleasurable, especially if you've ever wrestled with coarser, more fumbly designs—and Thales includes high-quality tools. Still, whenever tiny screws are involved, a deft, light touch helps.

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Micha Huber's goal for the Statement was to improve his basic design's dynamics, lower its noise floor, and make the whole thing more mechanically precise. Using a special phono-cartridge jig that puts a stylus in contact with the bearing housing and other vibration-sensitive areas, he was able to measure parasitic vibrations produced by various design changes while playing a high-amplitude test record (of course, using a different cartridge installed in the headshell). The Statement's measured improvements show a higher-Q resonance, down about 10dB, to –61dB, compared to the previous design.

I did most of my listening to the Thales Statement with a Lyra Etna SL cartridge installed, paying particular attention to bass extension, weight, image solidity, and other aspects of sound that might suffer due to the Statement's "floppy" articulated headshell. I also listened for any benefits!

A recording of an arrangement of Holst's The Planets for brass quintet and pipe organ, performed by the Buzz Ensemble and organist Mélanie Barney (2 45rpm LPs, Fidelio FALP028), proved ideal for gauging this turntable and tonearm's bottom-end response. The low organ notes in Jupiter, the bringer of Jollity were well extended, powerful, and tightly gripped, while the well-focused picture of the brass ensemble, spread across the stage, never wavered or was ever swallowed by the cavernous hall.

The Jamie Saft Quartet's superbly recorded Blue Dream (2 LPs, Rare Noise RNR095LP) delivered the warm, rich, dark, yet solid "old-school" quartet imagery one assumes its producer intended. Bradley Christopher Jones's deep, powerful double-bass lines contrasted nicely with drummer Nasheet Waits's cymbal work, splayed cleanly and precisely between the channels, while tenor saxophonist Bill McHenry's round, breathy blasts solidly filled center stage, and Saft's piano off to the right had clean, solid, well-articulated attacks and convincing sustains.

It's been years since I heard the previous top-of-the-line Thales tonearm from HiFiction—way too long for me to make any credible comparisons of its sound with the Statement's. However, considering the Statement's ability to reproduce bottom-end power, weight, and solidity with indiscernible coloration, it seems the question of insufficient rigidity in a tonearm with complex bearings and an articulated headshell has been reduced to a nonissue.

As for the suggested lower-distortion benefits of tangential tracking, at least compared to my reference 9" arm, I just don't hear them!

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Analysis Plus Silver Apex interconnect
When Jonathan Weiss of Oswalds Mill Audio dropped off his company's cast-iron turntable plinth, which I reviewed in my February 2019 column, he found me whining about hum issues involving the interconnects I was using between various step-up transformers and my Ypsilon VPS-100 phono preamp. He suggested Analysis Plus's Silver Apex interconnect (footnote 3). Its conductor is pure silver over a stabilizing strand of oxygen-free copper. Analysis Plus describes the geometry as "a hollow oval cable inside a hollow oval cable inside a hollow oval cable for a double shielded design for a noise floor so low you can hear your amp breath [sic]." It's sonically transparent—as good as the best of those other cables I've tried (that still hum in this situation)—and absolutely dead quiet. Plus it costs $1106 for a 1m pair (RCA–RCA). Highly recommended, and so reasonably priced!


Footnote 2: Thales/HiFiction AG, Tösstalstrasse 14, 8488 Turbenthal, Switzerland. Tel: (41) 52-202-43-12. Web: www.tonarm.ch. US: Thales USA. Tel: (212) 826-1111. Web: www.thales-audio.com.

Footnote 3: Analysis Plus, 106 E. Main Street, Flushing, MI 48433. Tel: (810) 659-6448. Fax: (810) 659-3303. Web: www.analysis-plus.com

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MatthewT's picture

Seems like it.

"Is this story clickbait ?, seems like it."

tonykaz's picture

Does questioning the validity of outrageous prices emotionally enflame you ?

Outrageous pricing is factually outrageous.

unless: You can find a way to defend, I'll listen but if feels like this report is trolling the readership.

Tony in Venice

MatthewT's picture

Seeing you defend calling Mr. Fremer's review "clickbait".

Michael Fremer's picture

Of course this piece first appeared in print so by definition it's not "clickbait". While you are free to declare anything as priced "outrageously", you are not the arbiter of what is and what is not "overpriced". That is the job of "the market". People are free to buy or not buy anything for sale, whether $75,000 sandals (they sold out) or whatever. My job is to report on high performance, often costly audio products. That's what I did.

Charles E Flynn's picture

The story, as reported by the New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/08/style/MSCHF-birkenstocks-birkin-bags-hermes.html

rwwear's picture

My wife and I love Venice. We try and visit a couple of times a year.

Robt.

volvic's picture

When is Mr. Austin going to give this guy a one-month "vacation" from this site. Childish insulting comments that add no value to this conversation.

Jim Austin's picture

I deleted the (first) offending post. I'll leave it at that for now.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

teched58's picture

Just wanted to say that I always enjoy Tonykaz's comments. One of the things I enjoy about Stereophile are the disputative comments and the interesting personalities who engage in banter. From mgmt's perspect (and as an old site runner myself), an interesting back and forth makes for more clicks.

There seems to be a general sensitivity towards comments about high prices. Why is that? If it's embarrassment, that's on Stereophile, not on commenters. If Stereophile believes prices are justified by the value offered, then who cares if one colorful guy down in Florida disagrees? Finally, an argument can be made that sticker shock comments act as a kind of mild pushback on ever upward pricing, and thus benefit Stereophile readers directly in their wallets.

Jim Austin's picture

It's discourtesy, rudeness, the questioning of integrity, of the magazine, its writers, companies aiming to make the best products they can at whatever price.

I welcome discussions about value, but they need not challenge anyone's integrity. That's just rude.

As to the substance of the complaint: A market exists for products in this price range, apparently a healthy one. Most people think the amount I pay for hi-fi is insane; I think they're wrong. Respect requires me to acknowledge that that sentiment is transferrable to those willing to pay more than I do. That doesn't make them morons and it doesn't make Mikey's good-faith analysis clickbait.

If you, or Tony, want to make the case that there's an absolute point beyond which prices should not go--this high but no higher--then fine, make it. Just avoid insulting others along the way.

I know it goes against the Internet grain, but we're going to have civil discourse here.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

teched58's picture

Jim-

My entire comment adhered to the respectful ethos you say you want to foster.

Yet you wrote: "If you, or Tony, want to make the case that there's an absolute point beyond which prices should not go--this high but no higher--then fine, make it. Just avoid insulting others along the way."

I respectfully submit you just did what you accused others of doing. I never insulted anybody.

As importantly, I never criticized high pricing. I was DISCUSSING it. From your past comments, I was certain that you understood the difference. Now I am not so sure.

Jim Austin's picture

I promise you one thing: I will never publish anything that embarrasses me. Seems kind of obvious, but there you go.

By suggesting that I am embarrassed by discussion of the prices of equipment we review--well, that's not exactly courteous, is it? In fact, it's a little bit insulting. If I misunderstood your intent, I apologize.

I want people to understand that they can discuss these things without questioning each other's character or motives.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

JHL's picture

...prices are justified by the value offered, then who cares if one colorful guy down in Florida disagrees?"

The quest to *discuss* prices typically rears its head instead as a de facto barb against the philistine who, failing sufficient discretion, would plunk down thousands on a component, thereby rankling his diligent moral superiors. Think of it akin to virtue signalling: If I can't have such a product nobody shall, my ostensible reasoning being that the tier was full-up at $900, and anything more is impossibly gauche and must be exposed. Ignorant. Uninformed. Saved from the Editor.

Not sure I buy that: Since the Editor only publishes and publishes in a broad category, comment thread wars serve to highlight a price-centric preening that showcases the commenter's putative standing. "Thus benefiting Stereophile readers directly in their wallets", as the rationale goes, the Editor apparently somehow failing to benefit them in their ears or their shopping or their ethics. Or their weak-minded consumer discretion.

It reminds one of the tendency in the world to blame the victim, a tendency also apparent in common deflections where not meekly accepting this public virtue - note the contradiction there - automatically on its face labels one an infidel to a similar cause. How dare he.

Fortunately for do-gooders, we near the phase where it's all outlawed anyway, Harrison Bergeron already behind us.

I think the term may be grandstanding. At any rate it ends up being a little more specious than it is useful, depending on where you're coming from.

Jim Austin's picture

... I'd be happier if the issue of value in hi-fi (and other issues) could be discussed on its merits and not in a way that questions the motives of other folks. Even if it's not always true, it's good to be generous and assume that the other person means well.

I'm convinced that people in this thread mean well; it's just that so many people are out of the habit of courtesy when debating on the Internet. It is so rarely done.

Best Wishes,

Jim

Glotz's picture

I was just thinking about your wonderful story about your son and jazz! Absolutely wonderful. Time is on your side, Volvic! He'll be at jazz shows with you soon enough!

To your point, Tony is trying pretty hard these days! Stereophile loves a good thread!

I try to see it from Tony's point of view- from time to time... lol. (It's beautiful in Florida! Big Picture, man!)

While the entry price to great (and clean) vinyl playback is very high, the returns are wonderful! Absolute envelopment of great music and sound!

I am utterly impressed by the Hana ML, as HR recommended. I often think 'this is an LP??'. Very black backgrounds indeed. (Kudos to MF and KR for the Stellar and HPA4 there too.)

In fact, I was just thinking that my very inexpensive DAC sounds just very mediocre compared to my exponentially more expensive analog chain. Thankfully I didn't spend much and it serves its use in revealing whether I might want to own a given recording as an LP!

Two sides of the investment coin from Tony to Glotz!
Mine is firmly ensconced in Analog!

volvic's picture

I am firmly ensconced in Analog as well, with four turntables and a fifth shortly to be built. I want the boy to ask for one as I want to get the 1200G LOL!!
Thanks for the kind words about the boy; we're trying. As for Tony, he used to make valid arguments, but he has become too acerbic for any proper discourse last few months. I ignore. Some of the people on my Facebook page that I admire and respect rave over the Hana ML; they go so far as to say it is the mega bargain in cartridges. As good as the Koetsus, they say. Pretty impressive praise might have to grab one.
I have been surprised how good computer audio sounds with my setup, even more, impressed with SACD; on a suitable recording, it is pretty amazing. The problem with SACD is the lack of titles, and not all SACDs sound great. With the vinyl I buy from the 50s and 60s, that is never an issue. The next purchase, and I know I've said it on these very pages will be the Sugarcube SC-1.

Glotz's picture

I do agree with your positions here. So jealous of 5 turntables... lol!

I am not going to say the ML is the equivalent of a Koetsu, but reading HR's Umami Red review, they DO punch up to double their price and more!

Please let us know what you think of the Sugarcube SC series! The SC-2 is out now as well at $3k; it brings more functionality for archival needs.

volvic's picture

I was looking more at the SC-1 than the SC-2 as I really have no time or desire to start archiving but it was something that got me thinking so one never knows. The reason I want the SC-1 is that I bought a sealed Schubert box set, and this is not the first time that I open the box, and disintegrated foam spills everywhere. After many cleans, I got the vinyl dead quiet but there is one area on side 2 that has caked itself into the grooves I have done Yeomans work getting most of it out and I believe in these instances the SC-1 might help. That and a cavitational record cleaner LOL!! It never ends does it.

volvic's picture

Maybe I am late to the party but someone last night from my LP12 Facebook page posted this and was astonished and the depth of this person interviewed and the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNrcb-9Gi8c&fbclid=IwAR0xOdNMRZlamg0ArjdrHSZGmwBHSqgXCrm2LZKVsXjtncfQLFZKp3kg0-k

georgehifi's picture

It's all about the mass, I believe Stax had the lowest back in the 70's with the Stax CPY/ECP-1 Electrostatic Cartridge.
It was mounted on a Infinity Black Widow arm on a Linn Sondek.
The sound was the most amazing thing I've heard from vinyl. Trouble was it had a power supply for it that had to be tuned with a scope, this took a good 1/2hr, and usually stayed in tune or 1 or 2 albums then had to be re-tuned.

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_forum/gallery/image/11682/source

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/2359405547_1ce31696ca_o.jpg

Cheers George

Glotz's picture

IMO, the Hana ML at $1200 is exponentially more revealing than the still-great Soundsmith Carmen at $800-$1000. The Hana weighs a lot more than the Soundsmith.

I find superiority is largely due to the stylus profile, with the ML extracting 30% more information.

There are more than a few ways to skin a cat though, I do still find Mr. Ledermann's philosophies strong on a number of levels.

Mass does matter, but it's not the sole arbiter by far.

JRT's picture

Mikey, you should have included some mention of the ELP-LT series of laser turntables.

https://www.elpj.com/

The disk spins, and the laser pickup moves radially above the surface of the disk, so there is movement, but in its movement there is no stylus in contact with the groove, and it does not generate sinusoidal electrical signal current in the same manner as other conventional phono cartridges. In reading the analog data from the groove it does not change orientation to the groove, does not generate sound within the medium, does not generate any wear in the groove, does not pickup any static charge, etc., so it seems likely that it also does not sound similar to conventional playback schema. I do not know what it sounds like, as I have never heard one of these ELP-LT series laser turntables in use.

Mikey, also, I expect that you are likely aware of these, and would not be at all surprised if you have experience in using one, rather just thought that the subject would be of interest.

Michael Fremer's picture

I have reviewed the ELP turntable. Keep in mind the laser does not distinguish a dustball from a groove modulation. It requires scrupulously clean records for it to work correctly. I reviewed it before the advent of cavitation-based record cleaning.

JRT's picture

MAF mentioned that he "...reviewed it before the advent of cavitation-based record cleaning."

That seems like a good enough reason to revist the product, with another review using records well cleaned with the best modern methods.

jimtavegia's picture

I have been following Michael's discoveries of 'defective", or "way less than perfect" construction of expensive cartridges. If anything Michael is a brave soul to talk about this in light of his preference for vinyl.

To me this does not bode well for an industry that wants $thousands for a cartridge because of its better design, tracing ability and improve sound quality over a AT VM95E. We all have to have a level of trust that what we buy is made properly and performs as the advertising and marketing say it will.

I do understand and appreciate the delicate and difficult job it is to make the finest cartridges, but someone must catch the shell game in progress. To me this only proves that Stereophile DOES provide a valuable testing services, and now an inspection service.

Gear is shipped all over the world and parts come lose resulting in a design change. A $5K CD does not perform properly only to find out that some part failed, but the player still played, but did not meet is specifications. What customer would know?

There is enough to worry about with mounting, aligning, trying to meet VTA and SRA to some standard, and then find out the stylus assembly is way off and defective? A hobby without headaches this is not.

mememe2's picture

Let's talk about value. At the price that is asked for the Red Sparrow you would think that the manufacturer of this cartridge would understand the meaning, and importance, of quality control. Especially one sent out for review! Apparently not, since it was noted that "The first sample of the Red Sparrow had a stray wire".

Michael Fremer's picture

Is that over time, having now looked at many stylus/cantilever assemblies under the microscope, I worry that what I thought was a "wire" was simply an odd reflection. The importer responded in a way that suggested it was a wire, but honestly now I'm not so sure...

Jim Austin's picture

I later got a note from the importer suggesting that it was indeed a reflection.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

mememe2's picture

Fist Michael says "The importer responded in a way that suggested it was a wire". Then Jim says "I later got a note from the importer suggesting that it was indeed a reflection". Can I make a suggestion to Top Wing - it can't both be a reflection and a wire. It's one or the other. They should get their story straight before expressing (suggesting) two alternative scenarios. The price of this cartridge has nothing to do with this post.

Jim Austin's picture

When the importer wrote to me, he had the cartridge in his possession, so it was possible to inspect it carefully.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

eatapc's picture

The likelihood of the wirelike thing wrapped around the stylus being merely an artifact of the photo -- a reflection -- is unlikely. But this raises the question, if the photo was defective rather than the cartridge, why did the cartridge sound defective? What was the importer's final explanation for the bad sound?

RK-JP's picture

Last Summer I decided to upgrade my cartridge – An MC that represents an excellent cost performance ratio in the thousand dollar category. It was time to move on.
Based on plenty of research and several listening experiences I decided to take the plunge and settle for no “half way house”. Instead, the Red Sparrow it would be. I took a deep breath and looked to my wife, sweetly telling her the cost...

To say I was smitten would be an understatement. Since installing Red Sparrow our music consumption has increased to three to four albums a night and shows no signs of slowing down.

The 4K UHD concerts and films purchased since remain sealed, sitting on the shelf. New digital downloads no longer find their way into the library. But my vinyl collection has rocketed and all I can say is Red Sparrow gives me what I have always expected from the best in digital – Consistency and wide band width. But instead of a darkened, repressed and somewhat confined sound digital sound so often delivers to my ears, music is released into the room. It expands into the room, flowing in a delightful and simply captivating fashion record after record. There are no drawbacks, no down sides. Just music. Red Sparrow represents The best thing (audio or not) I have purchased in many years.

Robert in Japan.

PS – A year earlier I had the pleasure of a home audition of the ELP analog laser turntable. This machine is an engineering marvel to say the least. I believe it represents exceptional value for money from an engineering point alone. A super cool “playboy” must have too! It is perhaps one of audio’s most research and development costliest ventures ever. Along with RCAs CED video disc perhaps... But one thing I did notice is while a record was playing, with the system volume down I could still hear a tiny, tizzy music sound emanating out of the player.

Anton's picture

Thank you for your post, I am curious...

1) What break in period did you notice?

2) How many hours does the company project before stylus or cartridge replacement? I am not a big believer in the thousand hour rule so wanted to see what they might have said or what your impressions were.

Ortofan's picture

... using the Red Sparrow cartridge and to what digital equipment have you compared it?

Glotz's picture

And an excellent testimony to the Red Sparrow!

I also applaud Stereophile in being as truthful and transparent as they possibly can!

Case in point above why we should all warrant trust to these writers and editors.

RK-JP's picture

Red Sparrow sounded fantastic from the moment "the needle dropped". But like a good wine it opens up after some time. I guess about 50 (LPs) get you there.

I never followed up on stylus replacement time. But I suppose accuracy of set-up and the condition of the Lps will play a role. I guess I am pretty close to 1000 hours by now if you add in the time when I have fallen asleep in front of a spinning vinyl... No detectable deterioration to date.

JRT's picture

I am not discounting reviewers' subjective opinions, but including objective measurements could provide useful illucidation.

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