dCS Varèse Music System D/A Processor

Photo: Paul Miller

It was during a visit to my music room by five members of the small Off-Islanders Audio Society that the magic of the dCS Varèse Music System ($267,500 as reviewed; $305,000 with CD/SACD transport) became clear.

One member had requested the 24/192 version of "Splendido Sundance" from Saturday Night in San Francisco (24/192 FLAC, Columbia-Legacy/Qobuz), performed by Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, and Paco de Lucía and recorded live in the Warfield Theatre on December 6, 1980. I'd attended the unveiling of the LP remastering of this recording, presented by the album's co-executive producer, Abey Fon, in the Audio Reference room at High End Munich 2024. The system, which was first class, included a VPI Titan turntable, D'Agostino Relentless preamplifier and Relentless 800 mono amplifiers, a VTL TP-6.5 Series II Signature phono preamplifier, Wilson Audio XVX loudspeakers, Nordost cabling, a Stromtank power generator, and an unheard three-piece dCS Vivaldi APEX music system (footnote 1).

Because many of these components or their smaller relations populate my reference system—I use D'Agostino Momentum M400 MxV mono amplifiers and a Relentless preamplifier, a dCS Vivaldi APEX music system, Wilson Audio Alexia V loudspeakers with LōKē subwoofers, Nordost cabling, and a Stromtank S-4000 MK II XT—I found the system's sonic signature quite familiar.

What was distinctly different about my home setup was that instead of the VPI Titan or the dCS Vivaldi APEX system, we used Qobuz to stream the 24/192 digital version of the album through the five essential boxes of the dCS Varèse Music System (footnote 2). Even more than at High End Munich, I heard three distinct guitars, each with its own uniquely identifiable color and timbre, spread across a wide soundstage. The sound may have been a bit brash—that's the nature of this singular live recording, though I may be shot dead for saying so—but every note was 100% clear and (that word again) distinct. When the three men pull out all stops in the second half of the seven-minute track, firing off more notes faster than anyone could possibly tabulate without AI assistance, every note remained clear. I heard no distortion—nothing to distract anyone from the artistry of three guitar virtuosos in their prime and the excitement they generated. It was tremendous—a revelation.

Even before he'd arrived to install the five-piece Varèse system, Emron Mangelson, director of dCS Americas, had asked if it would be possible for me to keep the Vivaldi APEX system on my double rack while he installed the Varèse system. In so many words, he told me that I might find it difficult to understand the differences between them unless I could perform direct comparisons.

Having now spent a lot of time with the Varèse, both in my music room and during an all-day factory tour at dCS headquarters in Cambridge, I must disagree with Mangelson. The more you listen to Varèse, the more obvious its distinct magic becomes.

The genesis of Varèse
When I reviewed the major Vivaldi APEX DAC upgrade in 2022—the APEX upgrade is also available for other dCS DACs—I learned that during the COVID lockdown in the UK, dCS's two multidecade technical mainstays, Director of Product Development Chris Hales and Technical Director Andy McHarg, started exploring ways to improve dCS's proprietary Ring DAC technology. Hales told me that he didn't have a specific project in mind, but when he thought he'd found something worth pursuing, he put it on a board so that everyone at dCS could listen. The fruit of the men's efforts, he explained, was that major APEX upgrade.

What Hales did not tell me then was top secret. During the pandemic, everyone was actually hard at work on the DAC technology that eventually led to the creation of the Mono DACs in the Varèse music system. But when they put their initial technological advances, which they dubbed APEX, on a board and discovered how well it measured, they decided to make APEX available to owners of dCS's current DAC lineup well before the release of Varèse.

As dCS Product Marketing Manager James Cook explains in a video posted on our YouTube channel, the APEX upgrade includes a completely new output stage, improvements in the transmission of clock and power supply signals, and more. Cook also explores why Mono DAC architecture eliminates crosstalk and provides other reasons why having separate Mono DACs, power supplies, and transformers for each channel results in better performance.

"All the analog output circuitry is essentially identical between an APEX version of Vivaldi and the Varèse Mono DACs," Cook said. "But the Mono DACs take Varèse performance quite a bit higher by virtue of the many improvements in the power supply and the mechanical design. For example, each chassis better isolates it from any incoming vibrations, and the ACTUS (Audio, Control & Timing Unified System) interface enables us to offload processes to the Core."

For more on the genesis of Varèse and its Mono DAC technology, see the David Steven sidebar.

Why add Varèse to a component lineup named for the far better-known composers Bartók, Rossini, and Vivaldi (with Elgar, Delius, Verdi, Scarlatti, Paganini, and Puccini before them; footnote 3)? Multiple conversations yielded multiple responses. To summarize: Edgard Varèse's compositions, which integrated electronic and highly unusual instruments into a distinctly unusual modernist soundscape, propelled classical music into the future, inspiring future creators of classical, pop, rock, and electronic music. To dCS, naming their new flagship Varèse signified their effort to look into the digital future and examine how they could advance user experience, industrial and mechanical design, and sound.


The Varèse Master Clock system is based on two OCXOs (Oven-Controlled Crystal Oscillators) centered on 88.2kHz and 96kHz (far right), a Xilinx Artix 7 DSP (center), and PSUs headed up by two Traco Power isolated AC/DC converters. (Photo: Paul Miller.)

What Varèse is
Varèse consists of up to six component boxes. Each has a single, small, thankfully unobtrusive LED on its front that blinks as the unit progresses from standby to on; a small standby/on button secreted right beneath the center of the front panel; and a major power on/off toggle switch next to its 15A IEC connector on the rear. The first two chassis hold the two Mono DACs, one for each channel, with new Differential Ring DAC (footnote 4) technology; mains transformers, regulator topology, secondary circuits, and analog output stage. Each Mono DAC's power supply was designed to provide better common mode performance on its balanced output.

Each Mono DAC houses twin transformers that are specific to Varèse. Designed in collaboration with dCS's longtime transformer builders, whose factory is located three miles away from the dCS factory, one transformer is dedicated to analog; the other, which is different, powers the digital circuits.

The Mono DACs only perform D/A conversion; all other processes are handled in the Core, Clock, or User interface/display (see below). For more detail on the Mono DACs, please see the interview with David Steven, dCS managing director.

The third chassis is the Core, which dCS calls "the heart" of the Varèse music system. The largest component in the system, the Core handles several operations including audio input, conversion, oversampling, noise shaping, filtering, and streaming. Indeed, the Core handles most of the Varèse music system's processing and "heavy lifting," relieving the Mono DACs and their power supplies from multiple noise-inducing, power-draining processes. It includes an integrated network streamer that, together with the new dCS Mosaic ACTUS app, enables PCM rates up to 24/384 and DSD up to DSD512 (footnote 5), and automatically oversamples PCM to either DXD (24/352.8 or 384), DSD, DSD128, DSD256, or DSD512 (footnote 6).

The Core contains two i.MX 8 modules. Cook, with whom I spent considerable time at dCS headquarters in Cambridge during an all-day tour, defined i.MX 8 as "a system on a module, or a whole computer on a chipset." One i.MX 8 module deals with internet streaming and UPnP; the other runs the ACTUS interface.

Streaming within the Core is handled by bespoke dCS code; this gives dCS extra flexibility in how it handles streaming. There is no Stream Unlimited streaming card inside the Core; only the User Interface (chassis #4, above) has one. Consequently, if a new streaming service comes along that dCS wants to integrate, it can do so very quickly.

The Core's rear panel includes eight unique ACTUS connectors that allow it to act as the hub of the Varèse system. Only a single ACTUS cable connects the Core to each of the other components. Only one of these connectors—the one on the bottom left labeled "Clock"—is reserved for a specific component.

"We have extra ACTUS ports available for components coming in the future, including the forthcoming Varèse CD/SACD transport," Cook said. "It's good to have extra built-in hardware headroom."

Designed to be future-proof, the Core has extra space for future add-on modules. If new technology or features arise, dCS can issue a new module that dealers can install by removing one of the back panels from the Core and inserting the new module into a slot. All necessary code will already be within it; no manual programming will be required. As you might expect, dCS will also update its software as necessary.

My review unit contained a brand-new, add-on I/O (Input/Output) module that allowed me to connect my Innuos Statement NG/PhoenixNet combo via USB. Early in the review period, dCS developed new software that enabled me (eventually) to compare streaming through the Statement using the Innuos Sense app and InnuOS to streaming through the Varèse using dCS's proprietary Mosaic ACTUS app and streaming software. More on that follows.

Chassis four is the User Interface. It includes a full-color touch screen to track data, album artwork, play queues, and other settings. Complete with a Bluetooth antenna, it works in tandem with the Varèse remote control and dCS Mosaic ACTUS app.

Chassis five contains the Master Clock, which utilizes new ACTUS and patented Tomix protocols to deliver dCS's best clocking performance.

Tomix clock technology arose out of the need to ensure that the Mono DACs were perfectly synchronized so that left and right digital samples were converted at the exact same time, with no delay between channels. With all audio signals passing through and processed in the Core, the Core needed to place time stamps on each audio sample. dCS's solution—Tomix—embeds a time stamp into the clock signal.

"Tomix is quite a nifty way of precisely sending time signals and unscrambling them without negatively impacting timing," Cook explained. Transmitted via Varèse's proprietary ACTUS cabling, dCS claims it superior to the Differential Manchester encoding used in traditional AES3 and dCS-developed dual AES. In Differential Manchester encoding, zeros are assigned a longer pulse and ones are assigned a shorter pulse. The problem with this encoding scheme, according to Cook, is that cable capacitance can affect pulse length, thereby creating jitter. Tomix was designed to transcend such limitations.

The sixth chassis contains a CD/SACD transport that had not been released at press time and so was not reviewed. The tray mechanism is the same as in the Vivaldi transport, but everything else has been redesigned.


Inside the machined alloy case of the Varèse Core showing the (screened) main PSU and USB-A/Ethernet digital inputs (far right) with ruggedized bays (near left) waiting for the optional digital I/O expansion modules to be fitted. (Photo: Paul Miller.)

Beyond those basic major components, Varèse includes:

• The proprietary ACTUS cable system, said to greatly reduce clutter by combining audio, control, and timing (clock) signals in a single cable with its own connectors. Its six twisted pairs of copper cable—similar to an Ethernet cable—carry asynchronous and error-corrected audio signals, control signals, and a master clock signal via the patented dCS Tomix protocol.

• A new, downloadable Mosaic ACTUS app (footnote 7) for iOS or Android, designed especially for Varèse, that enables playback from streaming services, USB stick, or (with the I/O Module) external computers, streamers, and network-attached storage (NAS). Networked servers must be UPnP compatible. The app helps with setup, guiding you through initial system update and remote configuration. It also detects audio sources and controls volume. Google Cast enables streaming from phone, tablet, or computer; you can also use it for multiroom casting with Cast-compatible speakers. Apple AirPlay, Roon, and Tidal Connect are other options.

The Mosaic ACTUS app enables you to configure all system options, audio sources, streaming services, local network inputs, Digital I/O Module inputs, and signal path settings including filters, conversion modes, and mappers. dCS offers six PCM filter choices, four usable DSD filter choices, three mapper choices, five conversion mode choices (DXD oversampling or DSD/DSD2/DSD4/DSD8 oversampling), absolute phase choice at the analog output, output voltage choice, and more. Thanks to Mosaic ACTUS, it's far easier to change these than in other dCS DACs and music systems. Everything is visible on the app—no more pushing buttons on the front panel—and filter settings have been blessedly simplified.

For the record, I stuck with my Vivaldi choices—6V output, Mapper 3, and DXD oversampling—and moved between PCM filters F3, F4, and F5 (footnote 8).

• A completely new remote control with "capacitive touch glass screen and illuminated icons," which charges via USB-C and connects to the system with Bluetooth. Along with an iPad or computer outfitted with the Mosaic ACTUS app, it can control volume, playback, source selection, signal path (including specialized filter choices), customizable favorite settings, and display options.

• An optional I/O Module, developed just in time for this review, which can be ordered with the Core or dealer-installed. My I/O Module included three AES inputs for units with AES or Dual AES outputs (eg, Vivaldi or Rossini CD/SACD transports), WCLK Out, S/ PDIF out, USB-B for connecting servers and computers, and RS-232 for corresponding ports on Rossini and Vivaldi transports.


Footnote 1: Vivaldi APEX remains in production and will receive a series of software upgrades this year.

Footnote 2: In both cases, I've chosen to forgo a CD/SACD transport. I haven't played a silver disc at home for at least two years. Instead, I have transferred most of my collection to file format and receive all music for review in file format.

Footnote 3: Lina, the name for the product range (network DAC, headphone amplifier, master clock) introduced in 2022, is an outlier of sorts in the dCS pantheon.

Footnote 4: For a short video explanation of Ring DAC technology, see youtu.be/UY5qkK5Moyk.

Footnote 5: Only DSD64 and 128 were available at the time of this review; the higher rates may be enabled by the time you read this.

Footnote 6: DSD is neither upsampled nor converted to PCM. Because DSD256 and DSD512 do not require any digital filtering on dCS's part, dCS users who currently prefer the sound of DXD upsampling—count me amongst them—will need to re-evaluate their preference once DSD256 and DSD512 are enabled.

Footnote 7: See dcsaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/article_attachments/17728273892380 for far more.

Footnote 8: F5 automatically defaults to F3 at certain sample rates.

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ejlif's picture

I was so surprised to get to the comments and no hateful negative comments yet. I'm sure there will be soon. I don't think I'll be getting one of these anytime soon but congrats to anyone who can have one. Years ago I splurged and got a Rossini DAC and when I first was listening to it for a while I remember thinking most audiophiles don't know what they are missing. Music seemed so fresh and new and revealing in a way that made me want to stay up way to late listening. The Varese sounds like that but a lot more.

Charles E Flynn's picture

System prices in excess of $300,000 require Hateful Comments 2.0, currently in beta.

FredisDead's picture

we audiophiles are maybe .00001% of the population and yet among us, maybe .001% would have any means or desire to place such a huge stack serving one purpose as a digital source in our listening room.
Also, the best DAC imaginable can not improve the source. Do you think any digital medium available let alone the actual music you want to hear was recorded using gear at such a level? So what is the point other than for the manufacturer to sell to those who can buy it and for the buyers to show it off?

georgehifi's picture

And the 1/2 million dollar all up price tag.
This sort of product is aimed at those "Glitz Queens" that can't hear, and that love to show it off to their billionaire mates, over a 100year old Scotch that was stored in barrels made from the wood of Joan of Arc's cross she was BBQ'd at. And then they love telling them how much it costs to what they are listening to, then back to work and "drill baby drill"
Cheers George

JohnnyThunder2.0's picture

all you do is have a reflex action to shit on what you feel is too expensive and out of your reach. Jason heard it. He was moved by the music it reproduced. When you listen to it come back and comment. When you listen to it make a qualitative judgment based on your listening experience. Don't come here and just reflexively knock pricey equipment that you would love to own but never can. You're a broken record of complaining and criticizing based on a personal value system so skewed and negative that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

scottsol's picture

One could say that the mediocre recordings can least afford to have their playback compromised.

MLP's picture

It avoids other degradation that a bad or mediocre DAC brings to the party. Listen to what you might consider a poor-sounding digital source through a truly great DAC and you might well be surprised to find out the source isn't so bad, it's the equipment you listened to it on when you formed the conclusion that it was a poor-sounding source. A lot of CDs, not to mention HD files and streaming, sound better than many DACs reproduce them. dCS is at the very cutting edge and pinnacle of digital reproduction.

georgehifi's picture

"It avoids other degradation that a bad or mediocre DAC brings to the party."
Correct as you say compared to a "bad dac"
But it can't bring back what was lost or mutilated in the digital PCM recording studio.
What ever faults were in the PCM digital recoding studio's chain, cannot be fixed, it can only be "bandaid camouflaged" (softened or truncated) And therefore even further from what it should have been originally. Cheers George

hollowman's picture

If you've come across some of early 70s DENON/PCM recordings, you may know how spectacular they can sound on VINYL. Ditto with early Telarc digital.
My pet theory is: the ULTIMATE d/a converter is whatever OCCURS from that PCM output right thru the phono preamp. So, the DAC that Denon (or Telarc) uses, the cutting lathe, etc., etc, right up thru the playback phono preamp I am using. And, of course, part of that OCCURRING PROCESS is the mastering engineer.

hollowman's picture

Best results can be obtained by TAPING the phono preamp outs. Use good quality (calibrated) reel deck (at least 7.5 ips). And send the outs of the tape deck to a decent sound card. Nothing fancy or $$ needed.
Not sure why adding the TAPING stage to vinyl ripping works well . Maybe like a well-designed complex preamp with lots of buffering, "signal conditioning" ( and heavy parts count!! ) can produce better results than a "straight line" volume-pot only design.

Markus46's picture

Regarding early Denon PCM recordings released on vinyl. They are spectacular!
My theory is that the recording engineering (microphone selection, placement, mixing etc) is more important than the technology used (analog tape vs digital) to record the output of the mixing console.
To see what a circa 1974 Denon PCM recorder looks like, check out the images In discogs of this album:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4204011-JS-Bach-Helmuth-Rilling-Orgelmei...
Note the oscilloscope!

I created an account here just to post this. I am way down the rabbit hole with these recordings. My wife hopes I get better…

Electrophone's picture

https://www.lowbeats.de/hifi-pionier-tatsuo-nishimura-gestorben/

Google Translation:

He was not only one of the grand old men of the hi-fi industry, he was also a friend: Tatsuo Nishimura recently passed away at the age of 76. The engineer, who immigrated from the Kobe region of Japan in the 1960s, not only shaped the Denon company in Germany in the 1980s and 1990s. He was also active in the German High Fidelity Institute (DHFI) and founded his own record label after his retirement.

His new life as a record producer was not the quiet Mr. Nishimura's first new start. And this step, too, was characterized by passion. A passion that drove him to become active in the hi-fi industry in the first place. When he came to Germany as one of the first Japanese to work here, he initially worked for a components supplier. But his enthusiasm for audio led him to tape specialist Akai in 1967, where Nishimura took on the position of technical director. Via Kenwood, the music lover eventually came to Denon, where, as product manager, he was able to experience and help shape a heyday for the Japanese audio specialist. The Nippon Columbia subsidiary drew on its experience in professional recording technology, where Denon built the first operational PCM recorder for recording studios as early as 1972, to refine the fledgling CD technology.

A critical issue was the nonlinear converter behavior at low levels, where manufacturing tolerances of the multi-bit DACs used at the time led to zero-crossing distortion. These bit errors were present even in loud passages, but were masked by the signal level. However, the percentage of distortion increased as the signal became quieter. While up to that point, only Philips had been able to compensate for bit errors quite effectively with DME (Dynamic Element Matching) using a sophisticated matrix, Burr Brown, a semiconductor manufacturer leading the Japanese CD player industry, attempted to overcome the specific problems of multi-bit technology by laser trimming resistors.

In a nutshell

But it was an idea from Denon's engineers that brought about the breakthrough for the Japanese company. Using a potentiometer next to the DAC, each individual super linear converter (SLC) was manually adjusted based on a measurement taken during production. While the 18- and 20-bit technology was merely a matter of numerical analysis for the pub, this complex design and production method resulted in a measurable and, in pianissimo passages, even audible increase in dynamics.

While this wasn't Tatsuo Nishimura's idea, it was up to him, as product manager, to communicate this. His passion for music and the inexhaustible repertoire of Nippon Columbia, one of the world's leading producers of classical CDs, helped him. In quiet piano passages, nonlinearities in the converter led to unpleasant background noise and, at times, even to an unpleasant modulation of the background noise. I still remember this because I was new to the industry and had read a report about it by Stanley Lipschitz, the renowned digital specialist at the University of Toronto. As a result, I acquired a Brahms recording from Philips, a recording much feared among CD player manufacturers. Initially, with a few exceptions, it could only be played flawlessly on players with Philips chipsets and those same Denon SLCs.

Ever-new variants of the SLC kept the flagships of the Denon range at the top of magazines' best-of lists for a long time. Denon owed its brilliant image to this technology, and Tatsuo Nishimura was able to spend a lot of time with the sound engineers of the German Denon Depeche in Ratingen in international concert halls. But someone like him didn't just watch. Equipped with excellent hearing (it wasn't just Denon players that had golden ears) and the knowledge of an engineer, the hi-fi pioneer sought ways to bring the listener even closer to the action, to give them the feeling of being at the control desk, or better yet, the conductor's desk. Impressions such as that of the pole position in the orchestral sound were contributed by conductor Eliahu Inbal, with whom Nishimura maintained a friendly relationship. Another friend was the late star loudspeaker developer Wolfgang Seikrit, who left his mark on Canton and Heco products. This group of audiophiles pushed themselves to new heights. During orchestra rehearsals with the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Inbal, Nishimura experimented with disabling spot microphones at the mixing desk. Unlike contemporary test reports, which were often full of terms like "depth layering," there is no natural spatiality when recording sounds directly from the instrument, as each microphone has its own perspective—a concession that primarily ensures compatibility with kitchen radios, which is generally sought after by record producers.

One Point Recording: Less is more

However, Denon used two main microphones in front of the orchestra to create a stereo panorama and two microphones suspended from the ceiling at the rear of the concert hall to capture the room acoustics. And only these remained in the end. The One Point recordings made in this way initially made the rounds behind the scenes as a kind of semi-official bootleg. Nishimura, not without a certain amount of creative pride, tested the reactions of experts from industry, the press, and culture. A DAT cassette from those days with a One Point test recording of the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra still slumbers in my treasure trove.

Nishimura Bootleg
Rare bootleg from the author's archive: Demo DAT cassette with the first One Point test recordings – a blueprint for Denon's legendary One Point Recordings (Photo: S. Schickedanz)
The enthusiastic response encouraged Denon to launch a now legendary series of One Point CDs, whose complexity and dynamic range challenged a stereo system to its full potential. This bold step would mark Denon's final zenith as a classic audio company. When Nishimura was entrusted with the management of the company in Germany, he faced a painful, Herculean task: Nippon Columbia was undergoing a complete restructuring. The music division was being sold, the Nettetal production site was being closed, and the workforce was being drastically reduced. Anyone who knew the sophisticated and unconventional thinker Nishimura could see how much this process was weighing on him.

At the end of the metamorphosis, Denon and its management moved to Nettetal on the Dutch border, where CD players and receivers had previously been manufactured. The path was clear for the company to transform itself from a respected hi-fi company into a highly successful AV group. In 1998, Nishimura took advantage of the advent of DVDs at the end of the 1990s, which was marked by a tug-of-war over sound standards, to pull off a coup: He packed extended one-point recordings with a center channel and discrete rear sound tracks for the ambient microphones behind the stands onto a DVD video. On these so-called ambience DVDs, he simply used Dolby AC3, the sound format that later became the standard.
advertising poster from the 90s
Also dug up from the archives: While others were still debating, Tatsuo Nishimura was creating facts. At his instigation, Denon released the world's first DVD-Video music software with Dolby AC3. The advertising poster, inspired by the film Armageddon, was designed by the author, who was taking a "commercial break" from journalism at the time and was having fun with Photoshop, Cinema 4D, and lighthearted sayings (Photo: S. Schickedanz).
….

Markus46's picture

Thank you Electrophone for posting that fascinating obituary.
There is a thread over at the Steve Hoffman forums discussing the early Denon recorders and how they vary from Sony PCM as used in redbook CDs:
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/denon-pcm-encoding-in-1970s-is-it-different-than-sony-cd-pcm.574771/

DaveinSM's picture

THIS

JohnnyThunder2.0's picture

because we love music. It touches our souls. Stereophile devotes almost as much space to music as to audio equipment. I'm not sure if you have noticed, but the world, this country, is in a bad bad place. It is oppressive for many of us. We read this magazine and this website to escape this pervasive cloud of insanity and hateful punitive retribution. You and trolls like you, contribute only negativity to this safe haven. I wish you would stop because you are as JA2 called another chronic crank commenter, " a malign presence." Go away or start a blog of your own.

georgehifi's picture

"You and trolls like you, contribute only negativity to this safe haven"

That's all you have, always going on the personal attack, now that's the real sign of "A Troll"

DaveinSM's picture

Tripling down on the $2m temple of tone, I see.

I’m a huge fan of SACD, and even I find this pretty much ridiculous. And probably more appropriate to a $3m system budget.

georgehifi's picture

No matter how you look at it, it's a fugazi

Cheers George

JohnnyThunder2.0's picture

You are not a pundit or a music critic or anyone that gets joy from music. You live to get on your tiny cyber soapbox and flail against the manufacturers that create expensive equipment and the potential buyers of such equipment. You have a chip in you that is anti-joy.

georgehifi's picture

You just "attack personally", with anyone that doesn't believe with your views

That's a real definition of a Troll!

celef's picture

There is nothing to hate here, great build quality, great look, amazing price tag, and a great sound, hats off

Ortofan's picture

... add an A++ or A+++ rating to the recommended components list, note that some ranking systems have an 'S' tier for those items with superlative performance that exceeds those that are A-rated.

Perhaps Stereophile could adopt that system.

ok's picture

..with a 5 or 6-piece 100+k audio dac; something like ENIAC in 2025.

georgehifi's picture

It's for the "Glitz Queens" to show off like I said, a fugazi. Like someone's missus with a permanent false smile.
Cheers George

Archimago's picture

Yeah, I think from an engineering perspective, there is no need for this many boxes to achieve amazing digital-to-analog conversion performance.

At the very least, this is materially wasteful.

All these boxes with wires between also potentially make performance worse such as increasing risk of noise and clock jitter. Results are good, but for this price, not sure if we're seeing objectively absolute state-of-the-art performance. Also given the dual-mono separate box DAC, I don't think we saw a measurement of right-left channel balance which would have been important to check precision.

Great that JVS liked the sound. Everyone's entitled to a subjective opinion. Hard to imagine though that it's superior to all the many other DACs out there at much lower prices of course.

DaveinSM's picture

I agree with this, and would add that a lot of people here don’t seem to understand the nature of technological advancements in electronics and just how quickly they’ve driven DAC quality up and prices down at the same time.

From an engineering perspective, this thing will probably be seen in the future as an ENIAC. Sure, it will always be recognized as a striving for the state of the art, but don’t be surprised if, in twenty years, it’s roundly bested by something that will fit on a desktop.

It’s the nature of electronics technology. People couldn’t imagine ever having real Star Trek Tricorders back in the day, and here we are sixty years later with smart phones that blow those things away. And even their teenage kids have them.

Jazzlistener's picture

First, @ejlif, although I too enjoy reading the comments section for absurdly priced gear like this, I disagree with your use of the term "hateful" here to describe what is typically "negative" comments. There is a big difference between the two, and @Johnny Thunder's behaviour on this thread is a big reason the U.S. is in such a bad place right now - i.e., responding to light criticism with over-the-top personal attacks...why so angry? Do you have stock in this company or something, lol. If you do, you should be directing that anger towards that big demented pumpkin head you guys call a president. My opinion - and that's all this is so don't lose your marbles over it -- is that any stereo component at this price level is ridiculous. Why, because #1) there is no rational defence to be charging that kind of $ for it and #2) there is no way the sound it makes can live up to its price-point. That's fine though, if Jason and his, what, 80-year-old ears, thinks he has heard the second coming of Christ through them, then I say good for him. From my perspective though, this ultra high-end equipment is what ruins the hobby, as its premise is that only uber expensive gear can deliver this quality of sonic bliss. I can also guarantee you that not only can less than .0001% of us afford this type of gear, the same goes for how many of us would hear any of the sonic qualities Jason describes hearing. But hey, to each their own.

DaveinSM's picture

The thing is this - as ridiculous as this future ENIAC is, it will have served its purpose when its purported technological advancements trickle down to more mainstream products.

If there is nothing revolutionary or at least evolutionary to be taken from inside those five boxes, then this thing will become an antiquated dinosaur right quick.

If the history of technological advancements in electronics has taught us anything, it’s that the primary value of statement pieces such as this is in their ostensibly pushing the state of the art and showing the way to scale it to improve product performance all the way down the line.

So the existence of this over the top product is not offensive to me. I’ve never been a bleeding edge early adopter anyway. But I stay on top of tech and have my own sweet spots as to when a product’s price to performance ratio makes it a no brainer for me to upgrade. This is especially true of relatively new, tech based products like DACs, much less so for relatively mature tech like speakers and amplification, where things happen at a much slower pace.

I think it’s like that for most of us, unless we have more time and money than we do sense.

daveyf's picture

Jazz listener brings up some very good points. The Varese is clearly priced to appeal to the ‘multitudes’ that can afford it. For these folk this is chump change. dCS must know their market, because otherwise the Varese would have been priced in the Millions! Nonetheless, that price point is next…

hollowman's picture

Recorded in Japan, Sept 1970. Released Jan. 1971.
Steve Marcus +J.Inagaki & Soul Media - Something [see links and YouTube URL below for samples]

But only a few weeks later, this:
Stomu Yamash'ta & Masahiko Satō - Metempsychosis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBw5hSvK_Sk
Recorded January 27, 1971 at Nippon Columbia Studio, Tokyo, Japan
[both above 13-bit , between 32khz and 47khz].
TIMELESS
They sound better on vinyl than any subsequent digital release (CD). It would be interesting to hear good 15 or 30 ips transcription.
The first digital Motion Picture Score recording was The Black Hole (1979, Disney; composer: John Barry). One of Barry's best scores. And that original 3M digital recording on LP was outstanding. Despite its popularity and significance, TBH OST was not released on CD until 2011. Apparently, the 3M machines were all in disrepair. And the original digital tapes were encoded in a proprietary 3M format that could not simply be transcoded to modern WAV or similar format.

https://www.ironmountain.com/resources/blogs-and-articles/m/3m-digital-3...
[32-track, 16-bit capability at 50KHz]
TIMELESS

In 2011, Intrada went thru the pain of restoring a 3M machine; at least get it spinin' long enough to rip from its ANALOG outputs to an external PC soundcard and HDD. And that's what Intrada released in 2011.
I have both the orig LP and 2011 CD. They sound very different. You can't A/B because mixes and masterings are different (like an orig. MULTITRACK remix/remaster)
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SIDEBAR:
About what DACs may have been possible in 60/70s... Well, many so-called high-end discrete ladder DACs of today (Denafrips, TOTAL, etc) used resistors and "timing logic IC" that were avail in late 60s. And some swear by the speed of cleanliness of earlier logic ICs, because they were built for performance, and not power efficiency. TIMELESS.
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Refs:
https://tinyurl.com/2teuyuh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAtZN2iIrY

https://digital-audio-systems.com/development-of-digital-audio-technolog...

hollowman's picture

This single video, by a retired German Radio Station Engineer, using NON-audiophile gear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJpa2p-WD6g
The sonics in this video speak for themselves.

THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES.

JOHN BARRY--The Black Hole (1979, OST). A digital recording.

Turntable: 1979 KORVET 038S (CCCP)
Cartridge: 1979 GZM128 nude paroc diamond berryllium cantilever (CCCP)
Phonostage: 1982 ELEKTOR SUPRA 2.0 (W. Germany)
Taped to reel tape and then to simple PC soundcard.

Refs:
http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/PrintPost.aspx?PostID=8918
http://rr20.ddns.net/Item.aspx?ItemId=1dc24a12-fa88-4043-9e01-8cf9b63e81...

bhkat's picture

I love that channel. It's amazing the sound he gets from broadcast type turntables and strictly mid-fi gear otherwise. Listen to any of the videos he has using the Philips quad cartridge.

CG's picture

Once again, I find myself confused.

I queued up that same track from Saturday Night in San Francisco. I could also hear "three distinct guitars, each with its own uniquely identifiable color and timbre, spread across a wide soundstage." My wife could hear that as well from the dining room where she's working on a jigsaw puzzle, although obviously without the same soundstage perspective.

Trust me when I say that our DAC does not cost a quarter million dollars, nor even close to it. It's not one of the many sub-$2K products, often from China, either. But, it's closer to the latter than the former, by a lot.

Now, I'm not questioning the greatness of the dCS product. Nor even commenting on the price - that's in the eye of the purchaser.

I'm just wondering what's going on with all these systems I read about. Are they all individually seasoned to somebody's taste of the day so when something new comes along, it just sounds different and is therefore appealing? It's not just this reviewer, or even reviewers from just this magazine, either. Help me out, please.

Jason Victor Serinus's picture

If you can, find a Varèse dealership and listen. Words about music are a poor second best to music itself.

Scintilla's picture

((yawn))

curbfeeler's picture

I was among the fortunate few to hear the dCS Varèse in Jason’s listening room when he hosted the Off Islander Audio Society on February 1st. Jason’s review has illuminated facets of the equipment in use that escaped my understanding during the event. Thoroughgoing research and engineering are made evident. The presentation was illuminating, especially when comparing music servers, local file playback, and various pathways when serving up music files digitally. Thanks to our gracious host for a memorable experience.

Ortofan's picture

... two-channel studio/mastering/professional grade A/D converters with a price comparable to that of this D/A product?
If not, why not?

georgehifi's picture

Be interesting to do a blind A/B with some of the ones getting raved about that cost $3k and less
(also help if you're blind too, so the "Glitz Factor" didn't sway your listening impressions)

Cheers George

aero9k's picture

When is Stereophile going to audition the Wadax system? All the other journals rate it as a paradigm shift ahead from DCS, CH Precision, and so on.

hollowman's picture

I recall that Arcam "FMJ" CD players shifted from using dcS Ring DAC topology to $5 Wolfson dacs (FMJ23 to 33). And JA and others, if anything, reported improved sonics with the FMJ33.
Not sure dCs has CONSUMER financial goals with their products?? dCs does have UK military funding, so deep pockets for interesting projects; only a small amount needed for audio/ancillary projects. If the US Pentagon were to, say, build a high-performance iPod to keep their soldiers happy and content, us audiophiles might end up with trickle-down, NASA-grade sonics.

But even corporations with no govt. contracts can put out loss-leader products. Like this 1986 NEC CD player (maybe meant for limited sales and CES shows. or as perks for corporate executives):

https://www.stereonet.com/forums/topic/347770-nec-903-true-audiophile-cd...

The first serious linear-tracking turntable was also such a project (1970 Schlumberger A1B linear turntable, developed by Pierre Clement). Developed by a French oil company: Schlumberger is a French corporation and the largest oilfield services company in the world. What they're doing creating turntables is a mystery. Maybe Schlumberger CEO was concomitantly an audiophile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PNtvgjCVe0

Earlier I noted the space-age USSR Korvet turntable. I doubt this was originally meant for wide distribution or even sale. Perhaps meant as a proof of concept: "We socialists can build audiophile products, too". And such items were in the offices of the Kremlin or in homes of high-ranking officials.

David Harper's picture

rides better when it's clean. I know what I know. Don't try to tell me it's "placebo". It's an absolute fact. Even though there's no rational explanation.

bhkat's picture

If you paint the exterior green it will feel faster too.

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