Volti Audio Rival loudspeaker Associated Equipment

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
mvs4000's picture

Upon further reflection, post deleted by author.

es347's picture

..indeed. $3500 for different finishes is bad enough...$500 for grill cloths?

jonathan.fisk's picture

Superb sound, cabinet questions, numbers and pictures that don't add up...just like the sensitive, squat, celebrated DeVore Orangutan series. Or the O/96 at least, as Stereophile did not publish measurements with their latest O/93 coverage --an odd omission for a perennial Stereophile "Speaker of the Year." I hope Stereophile will conduct additional listening tests of the Volti Rival, as they've done with both Orangutan models. A relevant and reasonable expectation, given the similar storyline and respectfully recognizing DeVore and Volti are competing for the same ears and $$$.

blacktruffle's picture

Hi Ken,
great review, thank you!
I didn't understand completely the final setup of loudspeakers.
Could you explain a little more?
Best regards!

ken mac's picture

BlackTruffle, I thought the setup description was rather graphic:" After some trial and error, I lessened their degree of toe-in from 45° to where I could just see each inner side panel. In short, the Rivals ended up 66" from my listening chair, with the centers of their panels 32" from the front wall—a few inches back from the DeVores' positions."
Greg took a crack at setup, then I followed up, the results above. Trial and error....Thanks for your comment.

Anton's picture

Questions!

1) "...once you hear horns, you never go back."

Now that you've gone horn, can you go back?

2) Did the speakers ever descend Mt. Micallef?

3) Did seeing JA's results change your interpretation of things you heard?

(The review, overall, made me want those speakers.)

4) In JA's Figure 4, the frequency response curve looks alot like those old "equalizer settings" I'd run into in people's car stereo set ups in the late 70's and early 80's. The "smiley face pattern!"

5) I would love to see on of JA's frequency response graphs in room like he does with some other speakers.

6) Is near field a problematic way to 'measure' horn speaker performance, in particular? I've always thought of multi-way horns as needing alot of 'intergration distance.'

ken mac's picture

2. The Rivals did descend and depart. 3. I see the results of JA's tests same time as everyone else: when I receive the issue, not before. Thank you.

Tesla one's picture

It's nice to see another of Volti Audio's speakers well reviewed (like the all-horn Vittora model before it, by Mr. Dudley), especially being they're a different type of speaker than the ones usually chosen for review by Stereophile; namely large radiation area, high sensitivity speakers that are (at least partially) horn-driven. Mr. Roberts (among others) is to be commended for his effort to make available this "genre" of speakers to a broader range of costumers for what appears to be very fair prices. Whether a sign of maturation of horn speakers in general or a more deliberate, careful voicing his speakers seem to appeal widely with less focus on any particular horn-sound imprinting and more on their unconstricted, musical nature.

Regarding the review in question of the model Rival there's no questioning the positive, even ecstatic nature of it, but sadly I find it's more about an elated state of mind than any descriptive, cool-headed exposition. Any speaker has something distinctive sounding about it, even though one might find it to possess no immediate "house sound," and trying to come about this is essential in getting a grasp of what we're dealing with. It's not that Mr. Micallef's review is devoid of description, but that I find it to lack a contrasting ground to be viewed against - be it in comparison to other speakers than the DeVore's, or a more firm, dispassioned approach to the core DNA of what makes these speakers sonically tick.

I'm not bashing Mr. Micallef for a very positive review, that's not my intention, but merely want to express that I walk away from it less keen about a product's sonic specifics and more aware of someone's exaltation.

ken mac's picture

Tesla, I am sorry my review didn't meet your needs. I can only compare products under review to what I have in house--my DeVore O/93s, and I did!

markotto's picture

Reticle I would like to have the chance to listen to them,however here on Vancouver Island that won't happen. I can't comment on the "sound", but based on the pictures they look quite ummm...... Ugly. Owners please don't freak,just my opinion. I happen to own probably the ugliest looking speakers ever,Infinity Reference Standard 2.5. I enjoy them still. Maybe we need an an article about the "least attractive "speakers we have ever owned. Should be entertaining. Oh..."recticle" ....stupid spellcheck!!

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Volti Audio Rival loudspeaker Specificationsf

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
mvs4000's picture

Upon further reflection, post deleted by author.

es347's picture

..indeed. $3500 for different finishes is bad enough...$500 for grill cloths?

jonathan.fisk's picture

Superb sound, cabinet questions, numbers and pictures that don't add up...just like the sensitive, squat, celebrated DeVore Orangutan series. Or the O/96 at least, as Stereophile did not publish measurements with their latest O/93 coverage --an odd omission for a perennial Stereophile "Speaker of the Year." I hope Stereophile will conduct additional listening tests of the Volti Rival, as they've done with both Orangutan models. A relevant and reasonable expectation, given the similar storyline and respectfully recognizing DeVore and Volti are competing for the same ears and $$$.

blacktruffle's picture

Hi Ken,
great review, thank you!
I didn't understand completely the final setup of loudspeakers.
Could you explain a little more?
Best regards!

ken mac's picture

BlackTruffle, I thought the setup description was rather graphic:" After some trial and error, I lessened their degree of toe-in from 45° to where I could just see each inner side panel. In short, the Rivals ended up 66" from my listening chair, with the centers of their panels 32" from the front wall—a few inches back from the DeVores' positions."
Greg took a crack at setup, then I followed up, the results above. Trial and error....Thanks for your comment.

Anton's picture

Questions!

1) "...once you hear horns, you never go back."

Now that you've gone horn, can you go back?

2) Did the speakers ever descend Mt. Micallef?

3) Did seeing JA's results change your interpretation of things you heard?

(The review, overall, made me want those speakers.)

4) In JA's Figure 4, the frequency response curve looks alot like those old "equalizer settings" I'd run into in people's car stereo set ups in the late 70's and early 80's. The "smiley face pattern!"

5) I would love to see on of JA's frequency response graphs in room like he does with some other speakers.

6) Is near field a problematic way to 'measure' horn speaker performance, in particular? I've always thought of multi-way horns as needing alot of 'intergration distance.'

ken mac's picture

2. The Rivals did descend and depart. 3. I see the results of JA's tests same time as everyone else: when I receive the issue, not before. Thank you.

Tesla one's picture

It's nice to see another of Volti Audio's speakers well reviewed (like the all-horn Vittora model before it, by Mr. Dudley), especially being they're a different type of speaker than the ones usually chosen for review by Stereophile; namely large radiation area, high sensitivity speakers that are (at least partially) horn-driven. Mr. Roberts (among others) is to be commended for his effort to make available this "genre" of speakers to a broader range of costumers for what appears to be very fair prices. Whether a sign of maturation of horn speakers in general or a more deliberate, careful voicing his speakers seem to appeal widely with less focus on any particular horn-sound imprinting and more on their unconstricted, musical nature.

Regarding the review in question of the model Rival there's no questioning the positive, even ecstatic nature of it, but sadly I find it's more about an elated state of mind than any descriptive, cool-headed exposition. Any speaker has something distinctive sounding about it, even though one might find it to possess no immediate "house sound," and trying to come about this is essential in getting a grasp of what we're dealing with. It's not that Mr. Micallef's review is devoid of description, but that I find it to lack a contrasting ground to be viewed against - be it in comparison to other speakers than the DeVore's, or a more firm, dispassioned approach to the core DNA of what makes these speakers sonically tick.

I'm not bashing Mr. Micallef for a very positive review, that's not my intention, but merely want to express that I walk away from it less keen about a product's sonic specifics and more aware of someone's exaltation.

ken mac's picture

Tesla, I am sorry my review didn't meet your needs. I can only compare products under review to what I have in house--my DeVore O/93s, and I did!

markotto's picture

Reticle I would like to have the chance to listen to them,however here on Vancouver Island that won't happen. I can't comment on the "sound", but based on the pictures they look quite ummm...... Ugly. Owners please don't freak,just my opinion. I happen to own probably the ugliest looking speakers ever,Infinity Reference Standard 2.5. I enjoy them still. Maybe we need an an article about the "least attractive "speakers we have ever owned. Should be entertaining. Oh..."recticle" ....stupid spellcheck!!

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Volti Audio Rival loudspeaker Page 2

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
mvs4000's picture

Upon further reflection, post deleted by author.

es347's picture

..indeed. $3500 for different finishes is bad enough...$500 for grill cloths?

jonathan.fisk's picture

Superb sound, cabinet questions, numbers and pictures that don't add up...just like the sensitive, squat, celebrated DeVore Orangutan series. Or the O/96 at least, as Stereophile did not publish measurements with their latest O/93 coverage --an odd omission for a perennial Stereophile "Speaker of the Year." I hope Stereophile will conduct additional listening tests of the Volti Rival, as they've done with both Orangutan models. A relevant and reasonable expectation, given the similar storyline and respectfully recognizing DeVore and Volti are competing for the same ears and $$$.

blacktruffle's picture

Hi Ken,
great review, thank you!
I didn't understand completely the final setup of loudspeakers.
Could you explain a little more?
Best regards!

ken mac's picture

BlackTruffle, I thought the setup description was rather graphic:" After some trial and error, I lessened their degree of toe-in from 45° to where I could just see each inner side panel. In short, the Rivals ended up 66" from my listening chair, with the centers of their panels 32" from the front wall—a few inches back from the DeVores' positions."
Greg took a crack at setup, then I followed up, the results above. Trial and error....Thanks for your comment.

Anton's picture

Questions!

1) "...once you hear horns, you never go back."

Now that you've gone horn, can you go back?

2) Did the speakers ever descend Mt. Micallef?

3) Did seeing JA's results change your interpretation of things you heard?

(The review, overall, made me want those speakers.)

4) In JA's Figure 4, the frequency response curve looks alot like those old "equalizer settings" I'd run into in people's car stereo set ups in the late 70's and early 80's. The "smiley face pattern!"

5) I would love to see on of JA's frequency response graphs in room like he does with some other speakers.

6) Is near field a problematic way to 'measure' horn speaker performance, in particular? I've always thought of multi-way horns as needing alot of 'intergration distance.'

ken mac's picture

2. The Rivals did descend and depart. 3. I see the results of JA's tests same time as everyone else: when I receive the issue, not before. Thank you.

Tesla one's picture

It's nice to see another of Volti Audio's speakers well reviewed (like the all-horn Vittora model before it, by Mr. Dudley), especially being they're a different type of speaker than the ones usually chosen for review by Stereophile; namely large radiation area, high sensitivity speakers that are (at least partially) horn-driven. Mr. Roberts (among others) is to be commended for his effort to make available this "genre" of speakers to a broader range of costumers for what appears to be very fair prices. Whether a sign of maturation of horn speakers in general or a more deliberate, careful voicing his speakers seem to appeal widely with less focus on any particular horn-sound imprinting and more on their unconstricted, musical nature.

Regarding the review in question of the model Rival there's no questioning the positive, even ecstatic nature of it, but sadly I find it's more about an elated state of mind than any descriptive, cool-headed exposition. Any speaker has something distinctive sounding about it, even though one might find it to possess no immediate "house sound," and trying to come about this is essential in getting a grasp of what we're dealing with. It's not that Mr. Micallef's review is devoid of description, but that I find it to lack a contrasting ground to be viewed against - be it in comparison to other speakers than the DeVore's, or a more firm, dispassioned approach to the core DNA of what makes these speakers sonically tick.

I'm not bashing Mr. Micallef for a very positive review, that's not my intention, but merely want to express that I walk away from it less keen about a product's sonic specifics and more aware of someone's exaltation.

ken mac's picture

Tesla, I am sorry my review didn't meet your needs. I can only compare products under review to what I have in house--my DeVore O/93s, and I did!

markotto's picture

Reticle I would like to have the chance to listen to them,however here on Vancouver Island that won't happen. I can't comment on the "sound", but based on the pictures they look quite ummm...... Ugly. Owners please don't freak,just my opinion. I happen to own probably the ugliest looking speakers ever,Infinity Reference Standard 2.5. I enjoy them still. Maybe we need an an article about the "least attractive "speakers we have ever owned. Should be entertaining. Oh..."recticle" ....stupid spellcheck!!

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Volti Audio Rival loudspeaker

If, like me, you're a dues-paying audiophile who's circumnavigated the upgrade block a few times, you've seen a lot of gear and set up many systems. I've carried 80-lb line conditioners up the six knee-crunching flights to my bachelor's penthouse, managed 50-lb loudspeakers downstairs to a waiting van, and made more trips to FedEx than I can count. I've owned dozens of audio products and reviewed dozens more.
Thu, 05/18/2017

Chris Cornell & the Singles Soundtrack

Was just listening to the deluxe edition of Singles: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, which is to be released tomorrow, May 19, when the news of Chris Cornell's unexpected death was announced. Very sad news and our sympathies go out to his family and all who loved his music in Soundgarden and Audioslave, and on the solo records.
Thu, 05/18/2017

Chord Electronics DAVE D/A processor Measurements

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
Anton's picture

Any comment on how it performs as a PS4 controller?

tonykaz's picture

What will come of these DAC designs as MQA gains even more Gravity?

Already we have respected folks like Hans Beekhuyzen, JA and Mastering Engineers ( like Bob Ludwig ) explaining the Future Benefits.

Mr. Ludwig says that MQA removes Pre-Ringing, whew, that alone makes it worthwhile, doesn't it?

Perhaps ( reluctantly ) we say 'by-by' to Multi-bit, R2R, FGPA and any another design not adaptable. ( Schiit YGGY obsolete?, certainly! )

It feels like Digital was refined, than more refined, then refined yet again. phew.

There are only a few 'remnant' that still cling to vinyl as their primary music storage system, it just seems so awkward and cumbersome. Why would a new music lover want Vinyl expense and square footage demands?, especially since MQA Dac prices start at $200!

Right now, today, I'm figuring that everyone in the Audio Business wants to be Bob Stuart.

Tony in Michigan

Archimago's picture

Hey Tony... I trust that was said with tongue firmly superglued to cheek :-).

I'm not sure if most want to be Mr. Stuart. I'm sure the company must have spent a pretty penny on MQA marketing over the years just from the business perspective.

tonykaz's picture

There is a Team of Software Developers behind all this, Stuart is their Managing Director who's flying around the World selling the Project.

It seems like everyone is getting On-Board.

Betcha it's exciting to be a part it.

Right now, everywhere there's an Audio Group gathering, Stuart is their No.1 choice for Keynote Speaker. Sort-of like he's the Steve Jobs of Audio.

Tony in Michigan

ps. this is my estimation, I've always like Meridian designs, I've been one of their dealers.

Anton's picture

I use MQA for streaming, it's fine.

I don't get the evangelical response it has received in certain corners. It's like someone told a tale of finding some golden ears in a secret place hidden by an audio angel and created the "Book of MQA" and the cult took off from there.

tonykaz's picture

Wonderful analogy, wish I'd of thought of it.

But

Meridian has always been an Engineering Company ( like 3M Corp. ), they've been at the forefront of Digital advancement. I've know these guys since the early 1980s, they're a no-bullshi... type group.

I don't think that I 'believe' in Meridian or MQA but rather I trust Meridian and MQA. The down-side being that they are upper-middle class. Still, a person can access MQA with a $200 Explorer2, $300 for an Audioquest Dragonfly RED or go full desktop with a Mytek for $2,000. ( we can't and won't be able to get a Schiit Bifrost MQA, too bad, I'm a Schiit fanboy )

I don't expect greatness from MQA, just advancement.

I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner.

Tony in Michigan

Anton's picture

This ----> "I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner."

tonykaz's picture

Ortofon sent their Man to Analog Planet Headquarters to show their New & Improved $4,000 Phono Cartridge, the video is now on YouTube. Please notice the vastness of the Vinyl Record Collection used as the Backdrop, it's gigantic ! Vinyl guys are boxed into storage of Vinyl and the Fragile nature of the Gear needed for playback, not to mention the total lack of portability & incredible expense.

CD is copyable so it's profit possibility for Artists is less ( perhaps considerably less )

MQA/Tidal is Global in nature, as the World adopts Streaming, new issues will manifest themselves. Will this become another limiting factor?

My hope is to have access to all the recorded music that's out there, on a rental basis. I don't want to rely on my own digital storage & hard copy storage systems.

If I dump my vast CD collection and abandon my hard drive storage systems to rely on Tidal's rental collection will I be boxed in and risk Tidal going out of business? ( and ever increasing Monthly usage charges ).

Seems like there's always something to be worried about, like getting the Big C.

Tony in Michigan

hollowman's picture

Chord's view -- "going for broke" on no. of taps to use in their devices -- is interesting.
Only a few weeks ago, Stereophile had a YouTube video interview with heads of mbl (German company). I think they said tap qty was more of an art and science -- a Goldilocks approach. If you go too high (as far as mbl was concerned) you can start harming the sound.

Staxguy's picture

Any chance Chord Electronics will be so kind as to send you their Blue 2 CD to add to the equation?

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Chord Electronics DAVE D/A processor Associated Equipment

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
Anton's picture

Any comment on how it performs as a PS4 controller?

tonykaz's picture

What will come of these DAC designs as MQA gains even more Gravity?

Already we have respected folks like Hans Beekhuyzen, JA and Mastering Engineers ( like Bob Ludwig ) explaining the Future Benefits.

Mr. Ludwig says that MQA removes Pre-Ringing, whew, that alone makes it worthwhile, doesn't it?

Perhaps ( reluctantly ) we say 'by-by' to Multi-bit, R2R, FGPA and any another design not adaptable. ( Schiit YGGY obsolete?, certainly! )

It feels like Digital was refined, than more refined, then refined yet again. phew.

There are only a few 'remnant' that still cling to vinyl as their primary music storage system, it just seems so awkward and cumbersome. Why would a new music lover want Vinyl expense and square footage demands?, especially since MQA Dac prices start at $200!

Right now, today, I'm figuring that everyone in the Audio Business wants to be Bob Stuart.

Tony in Michigan

Archimago's picture

Hey Tony... I trust that was said with tongue firmly superglued to cheek :-).

I'm not sure if most want to be Mr. Stuart. I'm sure the company must have spent a pretty penny on MQA marketing over the years just from the business perspective.

tonykaz's picture

There is a Team of Software Developers behind all this, Stuart is their Managing Director who's flying around the World selling the Project.

It seems like everyone is getting On-Board.

Betcha it's exciting to be a part it.

Right now, everywhere there's an Audio Group gathering, Stuart is their No.1 choice for Keynote Speaker. Sort-of like he's the Steve Jobs of Audio.

Tony in Michigan

ps. this is my estimation, I've always like Meridian designs, I've been one of their dealers.

Anton's picture

I use MQA for streaming, it's fine.

I don't get the evangelical response it has received in certain corners. It's like someone told a tale of finding some golden ears in a secret place hidden by an audio angel and created the "Book of MQA" and the cult took off from there.

tonykaz's picture

Wonderful analogy, wish I'd of thought of it.

But

Meridian has always been an Engineering Company ( like 3M Corp. ), they've been at the forefront of Digital advancement. I've know these guys since the early 1980s, they're a no-bullshi... type group.

I don't think that I 'believe' in Meridian or MQA but rather I trust Meridian and MQA. The down-side being that they are upper-middle class. Still, a person can access MQA with a $200 Explorer2, $300 for an Audioquest Dragonfly RED or go full desktop with a Mytek for $2,000. ( we can't and won't be able to get a Schiit Bifrost MQA, too bad, I'm a Schiit fanboy )

I don't expect greatness from MQA, just advancement.

I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner.

Tony in Michigan

Anton's picture

This ----> "I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner."

tonykaz's picture

Ortofon sent their Man to Analog Planet Headquarters to show their New & Improved $4,000 Phono Cartridge, the video is now on YouTube. Please notice the vastness of the Vinyl Record Collection used as the Backdrop, it's gigantic ! Vinyl guys are boxed into storage of Vinyl and the Fragile nature of the Gear needed for playback, not to mention the total lack of portability & incredible expense.

CD is copyable so it's profit possibility for Artists is less ( perhaps considerably less )

MQA/Tidal is Global in nature, as the World adopts Streaming, new issues will manifest themselves. Will this become another limiting factor?

My hope is to have access to all the recorded music that's out there, on a rental basis. I don't want to rely on my own digital storage & hard copy storage systems.

If I dump my vast CD collection and abandon my hard drive storage systems to rely on Tidal's rental collection will I be boxed in and risk Tidal going out of business? ( and ever increasing Monthly usage charges ).

Seems like there's always something to be worried about, like getting the Big C.

Tony in Michigan

hollowman's picture

Chord's view -- "going for broke" on no. of taps to use in their devices -- is interesting.
Only a few weeks ago, Stereophile had a YouTube video interview with heads of mbl (German company). I think they said tap qty was more of an art and science -- a Goldilocks approach. If you go too high (as far as mbl was concerned) you can start harming the sound.

Staxguy's picture

Any chance Chord Electronics will be so kind as to send you their Blue 2 CD to add to the equation?

Pages

Chord Electronics DAVE D/A processor Specifications

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
Anton's picture

Any comment on how it performs as a PS4 controller?

tonykaz's picture

What will come of these DAC designs as MQA gains even more Gravity?

Already we have respected folks like Hans Beekhuyzen, JA and Mastering Engineers ( like Bob Ludwig ) explaining the Future Benefits.

Mr. Ludwig says that MQA removes Pre-Ringing, whew, that alone makes it worthwhile, doesn't it?

Perhaps ( reluctantly ) we say 'by-by' to Multi-bit, R2R, FGPA and any another design not adaptable. ( Schiit YGGY obsolete?, certainly! )

It feels like Digital was refined, than more refined, then refined yet again. phew.

There are only a few 'remnant' that still cling to vinyl as their primary music storage system, it just seems so awkward and cumbersome. Why would a new music lover want Vinyl expense and square footage demands?, especially since MQA Dac prices start at $200!

Right now, today, I'm figuring that everyone in the Audio Business wants to be Bob Stuart.

Tony in Michigan

Archimago's picture

Hey Tony... I trust that was said with tongue firmly superglued to cheek :-).

I'm not sure if most want to be Mr. Stuart. I'm sure the company must have spent a pretty penny on MQA marketing over the years just from the business perspective.

tonykaz's picture

There is a Team of Software Developers behind all this, Stuart is their Managing Director who's flying around the World selling the Project.

It seems like everyone is getting On-Board.

Betcha it's exciting to be a part it.

Right now, everywhere there's an Audio Group gathering, Stuart is their No.1 choice for Keynote Speaker. Sort-of like he's the Steve Jobs of Audio.

Tony in Michigan

ps. this is my estimation, I've always like Meridian designs, I've been one of their dealers.

Anton's picture

I use MQA for streaming, it's fine.

I don't get the evangelical response it has received in certain corners. It's like someone told a tale of finding some golden ears in a secret place hidden by an audio angel and created the "Book of MQA" and the cult took off from there.

tonykaz's picture

Wonderful analogy, wish I'd of thought of it.

But

Meridian has always been an Engineering Company ( like 3M Corp. ), they've been at the forefront of Digital advancement. I've know these guys since the early 1980s, they're a no-bullshi... type group.

I don't think that I 'believe' in Meridian or MQA but rather I trust Meridian and MQA. The down-side being that they are upper-middle class. Still, a person can access MQA with a $200 Explorer2, $300 for an Audioquest Dragonfly RED or go full desktop with a Mytek for $2,000. ( we can't and won't be able to get a Schiit Bifrost MQA, too bad, I'm a Schiit fanboy )

I don't expect greatness from MQA, just advancement.

I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner.

Tony in Michigan

Anton's picture

This ----> "I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner."

tonykaz's picture

Ortofon sent their Man to Analog Planet Headquarters to show their New & Improved $4,000 Phono Cartridge, the video is now on YouTube. Please notice the vastness of the Vinyl Record Collection used as the Backdrop, it's gigantic ! Vinyl guys are boxed into storage of Vinyl and the Fragile nature of the Gear needed for playback, not to mention the total lack of portability & incredible expense.

CD is copyable so it's profit possibility for Artists is less ( perhaps considerably less )

MQA/Tidal is Global in nature, as the World adopts Streaming, new issues will manifest themselves. Will this become another limiting factor?

My hope is to have access to all the recorded music that's out there, on a rental basis. I don't want to rely on my own digital storage & hard copy storage systems.

If I dump my vast CD collection and abandon my hard drive storage systems to rely on Tidal's rental collection will I be boxed in and risk Tidal going out of business? ( and ever increasing Monthly usage charges ).

Seems like there's always something to be worried about, like getting the Big C.

Tony in Michigan

hollowman's picture

Chord's view -- "going for broke" on no. of taps to use in their devices -- is interesting.
Only a few weeks ago, Stereophile had a YouTube video interview with heads of mbl (German company). I think they said tap qty was more of an art and science -- a Goldilocks approach. If you go too high (as far as mbl was concerned) you can start harming the sound.

Staxguy's picture

Any chance Chord Electronics will be so kind as to send you their Blue 2 CD to add to the equation?

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Chord Electronics DAVE D/A processor Page 2

Thu, 05/18/2017

COMMENTS
Anton's picture

Any comment on how it performs as a PS4 controller?

tonykaz's picture

What will come of these DAC designs as MQA gains even more Gravity?

Already we have respected folks like Hans Beekhuyzen, JA and Mastering Engineers ( like Bob Ludwig ) explaining the Future Benefits.

Mr. Ludwig says that MQA removes Pre-Ringing, whew, that alone makes it worthwhile, doesn't it?

Perhaps ( reluctantly ) we say 'by-by' to Multi-bit, R2R, FGPA and any another design not adaptable. ( Schiit YGGY obsolete?, certainly! )

It feels like Digital was refined, than more refined, then refined yet again. phew.

There are only a few 'remnant' that still cling to vinyl as their primary music storage system, it just seems so awkward and cumbersome. Why would a new music lover want Vinyl expense and square footage demands?, especially since MQA Dac prices start at $200!

Right now, today, I'm figuring that everyone in the Audio Business wants to be Bob Stuart.

Tony in Michigan

Archimago's picture

Hey Tony... I trust that was said with tongue firmly superglued to cheek :-).

I'm not sure if most want to be Mr. Stuart. I'm sure the company must have spent a pretty penny on MQA marketing over the years just from the business perspective.

tonykaz's picture

There is a Team of Software Developers behind all this, Stuart is their Managing Director who's flying around the World selling the Project.

It seems like everyone is getting On-Board.

Betcha it's exciting to be a part it.

Right now, everywhere there's an Audio Group gathering, Stuart is their No.1 choice for Keynote Speaker. Sort-of like he's the Steve Jobs of Audio.

Tony in Michigan

ps. this is my estimation, I've always like Meridian designs, I've been one of their dealers.

Anton's picture

I use MQA for streaming, it's fine.

I don't get the evangelical response it has received in certain corners. It's like someone told a tale of finding some golden ears in a secret place hidden by an audio angel and created the "Book of MQA" and the cult took off from there.

tonykaz's picture

Wonderful analogy, wish I'd of thought of it.

But

Meridian has always been an Engineering Company ( like 3M Corp. ), they've been at the forefront of Digital advancement. I've know these guys since the early 1980s, they're a no-bullshi... type group.

I don't think that I 'believe' in Meridian or MQA but rather I trust Meridian and MQA. The down-side being that they are upper-middle class. Still, a person can access MQA with a $200 Explorer2, $300 for an Audioquest Dragonfly RED or go full desktop with a Mytek for $2,000. ( we can't and won't be able to get a Schiit Bifrost MQA, too bad, I'm a Schiit fanboy )

I don't expect greatness from MQA, just advancement.

I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner.

Tony in Michigan

Anton's picture

This ----> "I hope we're not boxing ourselves into another corner."

tonykaz's picture

Ortofon sent their Man to Analog Planet Headquarters to show their New & Improved $4,000 Phono Cartridge, the video is now on YouTube. Please notice the vastness of the Vinyl Record Collection used as the Backdrop, it's gigantic ! Vinyl guys are boxed into storage of Vinyl and the Fragile nature of the Gear needed for playback, not to mention the total lack of portability & incredible expense.

CD is copyable so it's profit possibility for Artists is less ( perhaps considerably less )

MQA/Tidal is Global in nature, as the World adopts Streaming, new issues will manifest themselves. Will this become another limiting factor?

My hope is to have access to all the recorded music that's out there, on a rental basis. I don't want to rely on my own digital storage & hard copy storage systems.

If I dump my vast CD collection and abandon my hard drive storage systems to rely on Tidal's rental collection will I be boxed in and risk Tidal going out of business? ( and ever increasing Monthly usage charges ).

Seems like there's always something to be worried about, like getting the Big C.

Tony in Michigan

hollowman's picture

Chord's view -- "going for broke" on no. of taps to use in their devices -- is interesting.
Only a few weeks ago, Stereophile had a YouTube video interview with heads of mbl (German company). I think they said tap qty was more of an art and science -- a Goldilocks approach. If you go too high (as far as mbl was concerned) you can start harming the sound.

Staxguy's picture

Any chance Chord Electronics will be so kind as to send you their Blue 2 CD to add to the equation?

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Chord Electronics DAVE D/A processor

Fifteen years? Has it really been 15 years since I reviewed what was then the flagship D/A processor from English company Chord Electronics? In the July 2002 issue, here's how I summed up my review of the Chord DAC64: "While the Chord Electronics DAC64 is undoubtedly expensive, it is eye-poppingly gorgeous. . . . many listeners should find its silky-smooth highs seductive, as well as its slightly larger-than-life lows." How times and prices change—the "undoubtedly expensive" DAC64 cost only $3040! I did make a couple of criticisms of the DAC64 in my review, but according to Wes Phillips, in his August 2007 review of Chord's revised DAC64, "the Choral Blu [CD transport] and Choral DAC64 are, together, the CD player we music lovers have long prayed for"—even if, five years after my own review, the DAC64's price had risen to $5000.
Thu, 05/18/2017

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