T+A Elektroakustik DAC 8 DSD D/A processor

"They're so damn hard to tell apart!"

So exclaimed my longtime pal and fellow audiophile Bruce Rowley when I revealed to him that T+A Elektroakustik's new DAC 8 DSD digital-to-analog converter ($3995) had arrived for review, just after I'd finished writing up the Ayre Acoustics Codex DAC–headphone amp ($1795). Bruce had recently compared his own brand-new Codex with a DAC he'd owned for a couple years, both costing about the same but built to very different designs. He was surprised that, after carefully matching levels and working to eliminate any other variables, they sounded more alike than not, and only slightly different even after hours of listening. Technically, these were two very different animals.

I've found Bruce's observation to be generally true. Ten years ago, I thought there was a wider range of sound quality even among DACs of similar prices—and maybe, back then, there was. But since that time, in my experience, the range has narrowed. Though sound quality is the lion's share of what counts with any audio component, I think that, for a given price, a new DAC's appearance and features are beginning to have proportionately more impact in the market. Hence the need to cover all formats, interface options, and functions.

Which brings me to T+A's DAC 8 DSD, which, for those who want to set up an all-digital system, has about as perfect and complete—on paper—a feature set as I've seen in recent months. And though T+A also offers state-of-the-art metal cathedrals of beauty for those willing to spend big—eg, their top-of-the-line combination SACD/CD player and DAC, the PDP 3000 HV, costs $22,500—the DAC 8 DSD comes in a compact, attractive, no-nonsense housing at less than a fifth of that price.

Ooh, it makes me wonder
I first saw the DAC 8 DSD in the flesh last January, at the 2016 Consumer Electronics Show, where I often prospect for review ideas. It's an updated version of the DAC 8, released a few years back, and it wasn't in T+A's main display—but after the company's Jim Shannon went through the bullet points and explained how T+A's flagship signal-path circuit designs had trickled down to the DAC 8 DSD's price range, I quickly moved it up to my short list. I wondered: could I get one for extended listening? The answer was yes, and a couple months later it appeared.

The DAC 8 DSD is a hefty component of modest size, weighing 8.8 lbs and measuring 10.6" square by 3.75" high. Its appearance is minimalist and formal, great care obviously having been given to each element's proportions and placement. In short, without trying too hard, it looks great. And there's an equally attractive matching power amplifier to go with it, the Amp 8 ($2800).

The main enclosure is a matte-black box of metal, rounded at the corners and stacked between two ¼"-thick slabs of silver aluminum—like an ice-cream sandwich with the colors reversed. There are four small screws on the otherwise featureless flat top and, on the bottom, four metal feet padded with felt. The only fault I found in the cabinet was that it rang a bit, depending on where I tapped it. There were several different pitches available on the top and side panels; with soft mallets or fingertips, I could play a nice tropical tune. Seriously.

On the front are 11 small buttons of identical size, a small display, and a single headphone jack. Starting on the left is the On switch, and below that a group of four buttons. To reduce clutter while accommodating the DAC's eight inputs, each selector button represents two inputs. Above each button is a light that glows red or blue, depending on which input the button has selected. Once you select an input with a button, the DAC remembers that input unless you hit the button twice—very clever. (The display, too, tells you which input you've selected.) Two buttons select among the four S/PDIF inputs: one button for Opt (optical) or BNC input, and one to select between AES and USB inputs.

The next group of buttons select between normal and inverted polarity, four digital filter options, and the user's choice of either Clean or Wide modes (explained below). Finally, there are volume up and down buttons, activated with a Line/Variable switch on the rear panel. I always prefer a round knob for volume, especially with any device that can be used as a preamp, but these buttons scale the volume intuitively, and were easy to get used to. The volume indicator ranges in setting from "0" to "64," and two independent volume levels can be set: one each for the rear outputs and the headphone jack. When headphones are plugged in, a relay mutes the rear-panel outputs.

Who shines white light and wants to show
Above these buttons is the high-resolution monochromatic display, which momentarily indicates the status of any control whose button you've just pushed, including volume, then reverts to the input sample rate. Below the sample rate is a bar that shows the volume level at all times, and additional small indicators that let you know if a signal is locked, if USB in running in asynchronous mode, and if the outputs are connected. A small incline symbol lets you know that volume for the analog outputs is in Variable mode, as switched on the back. The headphone jack is always in Variable mode, so the incline shows up whenever 'phones are plugged in.

Since the DAC 8 DSD can indeed handle DSD via USB, the display shows the DSD rate in MHz. The manual includes a handy conversion table, though it took me a few days to get comfortable with these. For example, DSD64 appears on the display as either "2M8 DSD" or "3M1 DSD" (2.8MHz or 3.1MHz), depending on whether the base clock is 44.1 or 48kHz; DSD128 is displayed as "5M6 DSD" or "6M1 DSD"; and so on, all the way up to "22M6 DSD" or "24M6 DSD," for DSD512.


At the left of the rear panel are balanced (XLR) and unbalanced (RCA) analog outputs, along with the Variable/Fixed switch and an RCA digital output. In the middle is a generous assortment of inputs: four S/PDIF (RCA), BNC, optical, AES/EBU, and USB. The USB input accepts PCM up to 32-bit/384kHz and DSD up to DSD512; DSD256 and DSD512 are possible only with USB streams from Windows operating systems. Detailed setup instructions for this are available on T+A's website.

Finishing off the rear inputs are an Ethernet jack for "future extensions" and a Ctrl (control) interface for use in combination with Crestron- or AMX-type home-automation systems. Finally, there's a standard AC connector for the removable power cord. The only feature missing at this point—and who knows if it will matter in the long run—is MQA.

Also included is a small, nicely designed plastic remote control that includes all of the functions found on the front panel, as well as a handy Mute button (which the front panel lacks). The remote was easy to use, and became my preferred method for controlling the DAC 8 DSD, especially when I also used it as a preamp.

The external temperature of the case maxed out at a gentle 93°F—a modest warmth compared to DACs such as the Ayre Codex, which hits 108° after settling in.

And did you know
Several DAC 8 DSD users have reported that the way to go for the best sound, assuming you have a PC with the computing power, is to use Signalyst's HQPlayer upsampling multichannel audio player, by itself or with Roon, to upsample everything to DSD512 and then output that to the T+A. Since I kept my focus on using the T+A as is, without the additional variable of external software and its possible effects on the sound, I'll leave that for others to sort out. But with a DAC as endowed as this one is, it might be worth looking into.

Yes, there are two paths you can go by
As mentioned earlier, the DAC 8 DSD incorporates some of the technology developed for T+A's more expensive products. The most significant of these is the implementation of two completely separate signal paths for PCM and DSD, which T+A feels is the only way to properly optimize processing for each format. This means that the DAC 8 DSD contains two sets of D/A converters, including a 1-bit converter that, T+A points out, does not at any point convert the DSD signal to PCM. In fact, when switching between DSD and PCM sources, you can hear a pair of relays click as the circuit logic shunts the signal from one path to the other.

For PCM conversion, T+A uses their Quadruple Converter circuit, which uses a total of four DACs per channel in a double-differential configuration claimed to perfectly cancel out converter errors and nonlinearities while increasing dynamic range by 6dB. On the DSD side, a proprietary T+A discrete-component design is used, avoiding the conversion to PCM performed by most converters.

T+A's chief design engineer, Lothar Wiemann, explained to me that "We found that it is very difficult to preserve a true DSD signal path with readymade chips. IC manufacturers in most cases do not disclose what actually happens in their chips, so we really could not depend upon a third-party chipmaker to help us create a truly reference DSD decoder. This is why we chose to construct our own 1-bit converter, to be sure that everything is done in a fully optimized way." He added that jitter is also minimized by placing the clock oscillators and converters as physically close to each other as possible.

When all are one and one is all
Following conversion from PCM or DSD, either signal is then sent to the same analog section, also with technology developed for T+A's expensive HV series. This includes a completely discrete I/V conversion circuit with selected high-frequency transistors, and a completely discrete analog reconstruction filter stage with matched JFET audio FETs.

For setting output level, the signal is finally sent to a precision resistor ladder—a fully symmetrical, balanced design. T+A notes that, unlike the "far more expensive" gold-contact relays used in their megabuck products, high-quality electronic switches are used in the DAC 8 DSD. Also, the resistors in the DAC 8 DSD's volume control are from Vishay's MMU series of surface-mount devices (SMDs), instead of the bulkier and more expensive Vishay CMF55 resistors used in T+A's HV series.

Don't be alarmed now
Another feature of the DAC 8 DSD is its Clean/Wide option, to prevent possible system meltdowns. An analog filter with a gentle slope is used to remove any high-frequency noise from DSD sources because, as Wiemann explained, "DSD64 signals have a very very high noise floor rising steeply above 20kHz. This noise floor is very negative—it leads to all sorts of problems like intermodulation, and substantial rise of voice-coil temperature in the tweeter. Other side effects might be additional heat in the amplifier, leading to a decrease in bias current and, in turn, to a lower class-A power range. All these effects are negative for the sound, and these effects can be avoided by properly filtering out the high-frequency noise."

So what the Clean setting actually does is to use a gentle slope, starting around 30kHz, to scrub the unwanted HF noise when using DSD64. The Wide setting is recommended for all other formats, as PCM doesn't have this problem, and higher DSD rates have lower noise ultrasonic floors than DSD64. During my listening, I used the Wide setting at all times for all formats, without problem. T+A also notes that folks who buy their amplifiers can also use the Wide setting in all cases.

There's a feeling I get
And now for one of my favorite features of the DAC 8 DSD: switchable custom filters! Why do I get a warm, fuzzy feeling when I see these? Simply because they can be used to fine-tune certain aspects of the sound, and I don't have to rely on what the designer decided was the "best" set of trade-offs among those inherent in all filters. Of course, this works only if the designer has supplied some good filter options in the first place.

The first two of the four filters in the DAC 8 DSD are variations on the standard finite impulse response (FIR) filter, probably the most common type found in DACs. FIR filters trade off their low-pass frequency-response accuracy with pre- and post-ringing artifacts that show up in the audio signal. T+A's two options adjust these variables with differing results: less ringing, but also less linearity, in the frequency response; or perfect frequency response, but at the expense of some deleterious ringing artifacts that rob music of its impact and spatial detail. Choose your poison.

Even better, in my opinion, are the DAC 8 DSD's two custom Bézier filters, the likes of which T+A has been developing for years. A Bézier curve—the smoothest path calculated through a given number of data points—is often used in graphics or, in our case, audio samples. Wiemann said that T+A's filters are a spline interpolation using Bézier curves, and that "the Bézier interpolation algorithm has no pre-ringing and no post-ringing. It has the best impulse response of all technically possible oversampling methods."

T+A Elektroakustik GmbH
US distributor: Rutherford Audio Inc.
12649 E. Caley Avenue #116
Centennial, CO 80111
(303) 872-6285

georgehifi's picture

Can anyone say when this unit does PCM (redbook) is it using DS (1bit) type or Multibit converter, as that looks to be over looked in the review.

Cheers George

hb72's picture

Double-Differential-Quadruple-Converter with 4 D/A-Converters per channel, 32-Bit Sigma Delta, 352,8 kSps/384 kSps. Eight times oversampling.

georgehifi's picture

Gross for PCM replay conversion.
From what the gurus in the industries say only Multibit can do PCM without making a facsimile of it.

Cheers George

tonykaz's picture

Thats probably the most accurate thing anyone could say or has said about good quality Consumer DACs! Maybe you should be awarded the "King's new Suit" Award.

I admire your bravery

Tony in Michigan

ps. I've heard it said that if a DAC is doing it's job properly you can't hear it.

Marc210's picture

I own two old DACs (more than 10 years age) purchased used at less than 80 per cent of their retail price, and really it's hard to tell differences, even subtle ones. First is a one bit, other oversamples at 96, compared to newcomers well you know what's the answer is...

CAminion's picture

reminds me of when in the 80's people would say all turntables are the same. Digital transport solutions will make DAC's sound alike if they aren't up to snuff.

TJ's picture

... for the most thoughtful and well considered DAC review I've ever read. It's an interesting comment that as the technology matures, digital filters will become more significant than other design factors.

Archimago's picture

Disagree with this. Realize that the comment is about the Ayre Codex vs. a DAC a few years old. The difference is primarily the filters. Yet sounds "damn close". If that's the difference filters make (especially something so significantly different like the Codex/PonoPlayer), then it's not unreasonable to say that filters are not all that different sounding, right?

Anton's picture

I see things like, "DSD64 appears on the display as either "2M8 DSD" or "3M1 DSD" (2.8MHz or 3.1MHz), depending on whether the base clock is 44.1 or 48kHz; DSD128 is displayed as "5M6 DSD" or "6M1 DSD"; and so on, all the way up to "22M6 DSD" or "24M6 DSD," for DSD512," or "four S/PDIF (RCA), BNC, optical, AES/EBU, and USB. The USB input accepts PCM up to 32-bit/384kHz and DSD up to DSD512; DSD256 and DSD512 are possible only with USB streams from Windows operating systems..." and my brain just goes all dial tone.

I figured out Tidal into my Explorer DAC to the real Hi Fi and that was a major accomplishment!


If it ever gets idiot-level easy, I will hit the button!

Archimago's picture

It just sounds like the DSD naming scheme is unnecessarily pretentious in trying to sound *different* instead of sticking with convention and what most would recognize.

It's rather ridiculous, as if there's something special about those labels. Likewise, all those acronyms that companies tend to use for techniques that are essentially just variants of well-known algorithms/technologies end up falling flat as well...

Marc210's picture

"CAminion :reminds me of when in the 80's people would say all turntables are the same. Digital transport solutions will make DAC's sound alike if they aren't up to snuff."

audiodoctornj's picture

As a T+A dealer, with one of the largest collections of dacs on the East Coast, I am very puzzled by this review! I have been in professional audio retailing for 27 years or since the beginning of the digital revolution, and I can say unequivocally that I am at odds with this review.

To say that two digital front ends sound alike is saying that two sports cars drive the same, sure they are both fast, but the feeling of say a BMW vs a Mercedes is totally different.

If you look at two different dacs unless they are using the same decoding chips and on board filters, then the only difference might be the analog stage, I find there is generally a world of sonic difference between two dacs with carefully level matching.

Take an Auralic Vega vs an NAD M51 these are totally different animals, with completely different technologies, and yes they both sound very good the more expensive dac does sound better, with a wider and more defined sound stage, and greater resolution.

To lump the T+A in with some of these other dacs is doing the T+A dac a disservice. The writer said he did not play with up sampling redbook to Quad Rate DSD, when on all the forums that are talking about this dac are saying that you must hear it at that frequency and decoding type.

I ran J River and took a 16 bit 44k CD and through J River spit out a Dual rate than Quad Rate DSD file on the fly for the T+A DAD 8 DSD to decode, and the difference between the two sampling rates was very audible, Dual DSD was good, Quad rate DSD was amazing!

Many people reading the review might think that the DSD decoding engine can only be used with DSD files when you can easily convert PCS to DSD and vice versa.

The DAC 8 DSD sound great on PCM but feed it a Quad Rate DSD track and you will be absolutely floored, and it moves this little $4k dac into the big leagues, I would say under $10k the Dac 8 is very hard to beat, there is an organic sound and a spooky real sense of presence that once you hear it you will be shocked at just how special the DAC 8 is.

hifial's picture

If you really want to hear something special then feed this DAC any music file up-sampled to DSD512 using HQ Player software and with Roon as the manager.

It is sad when the professional reviewer barely scratches the surface of what a piece of equipment can do.

But then the professional dealer also misses the mark on the best part.

Thank goodness for the audio forums.

PS How would I know. Because I am one of the ones using it as such. And I have a huge smile from the enjoyment.