Gramophone Dreams #92: Technics SL-1300G record player Page 2

In that spirit, and knowing I did not own a runout gauge, Trei told me to eyeball the chrome bead on the lower rim of the 1300G's platter against the line of the plinth's top surface, watching to see if the platter rises and falls during rotation. Which it did! I estimated it rose about 1.5mm during one point in each rotation. This seemed trivial, but Michael said I could fix that by first making sure I have the washers on the screws that fasten the platter to the motor in the right order (with the small Belleville spring washers on top next to the screw-head), and, as the manual clearly instructs, "Tighten the three screws evenly." When I loosened the three screws and snugged them down as evenly as I could without a torque wrench, I was delighted to see the up-and-down motion was gone.

As I've done with all my Technics turntables, I set all cartridges to the Stevenson geometry.

Listening
My first impression of the Technics SL-1300G was "Holy cow! Are you kidding me? That's the smoothest, quietest analog I've ever heard from any record player." Then I remembered Ken Micallef's dead-silent J.Sikora deck. And Alex Halberstadt's "quiet with push" Well Tempered Lab Amadeus record player. And my Trei-optimized Linn LP12, which wins medals for silence and PRaT. The 1300G was not as quiet as those decks, but it was conspicuously quiet.

In my 2016 1200GAE review, I thought the 1200G sounded more sharply focused and transparent than my stoop-sale SL1200Mk.II, but also perhaps, very subtly, digital, in a way my old gray 1200 did not. All of the several Mk.IIs I've owned presented music with what I call a "stretchy" correction interval that I identify as some amount of leading-edge and trailing-edge blur that appears to connect separate sounds together. To my ears, this subliminal blurring is unobtrusive and does not compromise my listening pleasures.

While using the 1200GAE, I detected a sharper, more distinct "correction interval" that I pictured as a tiny squarewave superimposed on the analog signal streaming from the cartridge output. If what I heard was real, that tiny wave must be buried somewhere in or near or separate from the noisefloor. When records were playing, it was imperceptible, unless I specifically went looking for it.

The 1300G induced a tiny mental squarewave too, but it was so low in level, I'd need an EKG machine to verify its presence.

I mention all this because my auditions suggest that Technics' delta-sigma speed control has brought direct-drive platter spinning to a quieter, more natural, less mechanical place. And I'm really digging it.

Nevertheless, I've always thought and still think the 1200 Mk.II sounds alluringly smooth, high in boogie-factor, and uncolored. For me, the Mk.II's strongest suits are its motor and chassis, and its weakest link is its tonearm. But I don't feel that way about the SL-1300G's tonearm, which looks the same as my old Mk.II's, but moves with noticeably lower stiction and friction.

As Bill Voss explained: The 1300G uses the same basic tonearm, with the same bearings and bits as the 1200G, but substitutes an aluminum armtube for the magnesium pipe on the 1200G. And! According to Bill, the only difference between the 9" magnesium arm on the 1200G and the 10" magnesium arm on the SL-1000R is the length. What this means is: Technics makes one tonearm and fits it with three different armtubes to suit the needs of three different turntable models.

Listening with the Nagaoka MP-200
The first arrangement I tried felt like roots audio: the SL-1300G sporting a $509 Nagaoka MP-200 moving magnet cartridge feeding my beloved Sun Valley SV-EQ1616D phono equalizer ($850 in kit form). This created a jumping, live-wire–sounding analog source that played an original pressing of Dinah Washington's This Is My Story Vol.1 (Mercury Stereo SR60788) in a manner that felt crisp, direct, and authentic to its era (1963). What stood out was how Dinah's voice was so clear and present it became impossible to not pay complete attention to how the artist was forming each word and shaping each phrase of each song. My copy of This Is My Story is an old, worn, hazed-with-scratches disc, with a dense hairball of spindle marks on both sides, but that wear was not noticeable. Dinah Washington's voice was clear, corporeal, and true of tone. To my delight, the 1300G exposed the unique flavors of each track's reverb.

If I could only save one record from my collection, it might be the 1968 Skip James LP titled The Devil Got My Woman (Vanguard VSD79273). Skip James's chill-inducing voice, in concert with his transcendent piano and guitar accompaniments, takes scary ethereal beauty to a place I need to visit often. When the 1300G+MP-200 played this record, I felt instantly transported, and while lucid dreaming with Skip, I found myself pausing repeatedly to admire the quality of sound coming out of my Falcon Gold Badge speakers, thinking how could it, and why should it, ever sound better than this?

Like its SL-1200Mk.II forebear, the SL-1300G's tonearm seemed especially made for moving magnet cartridges. The Nagaoka MP-200 and Shure V15 Type III moving magnets tracked splendidly and sounded more solid, transparent, and finely detailed than I thought they ever could.

Listening with Hana's SL Mk.II
Speaking of Mk.IIs, Hana's new "Mk.II version of its popular SL moving coil cartridge is a stunner and shaker, and costs only $850. And it seemed like a cartridge SL-1300G owners might want to consider.

The Hana Mk.II's greater mass, alnico magnet, tapered shank aluminum cantilever, and nude Shibata diamond make it a cartridge that, mounted on the 1300G's tonearm, strode through complex program with a high level of unruffled precision.

Playing "Careless Love" off that 1968 Skip James LP put me in a super mood. Tone and rhythm were five-star just right, as were transients and presence. Think smooth flow, touchable textures, and sterling tone. Best of all, the SL Mk.II (mounted in a $450 DS Audio HS-001 headshell) played this recording with creamy flowing rhythms, a rich well-focused midrange, and razor-like transients. IM distortion was below audibility, proof the 1300G's tonearm steers cartridges with aplomb.

Torque settings
Lately I resort to recordings with massed strings punctuated by sledgehammer bass transients as a measure of cartridge tracking stability. One of my favorite discs to test for this is a Columbia six-eyes pressing of Leonard Bernstein conducting the New York Philharmonic in a landmark performance of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite (Columbia MS 6014). The high-rez bass transients on this recording are legendary, but the 1300G just smiled as they passed through effortlessly.

The 1300G allows for three choices for "turntable startup speed," which it defines as "time to reach constant speed after [Start:Stop] is pressed" and "torque gain at constant speed." The factory's default setting is "3" (the highest), and I had done all of the above listening at that setting. But out of curiosity and a desire for thoroughness, I tried lowering the torque one step at a time while repeat playing that Columbia Firebird. The differences were subtle but clear, and the test proved very Goldilocks. With the Hana SL Mk.II, the "3" setting was a touch hard and sometimes a tad bright, but always highly expressive. The "1" setting was more supple, laid-back, and transparent, but I felt that the leading edge of transients was compromised a little too much. The "2" setting felt like a neutral balance between hard and soft. The sound difference between settings was subtle—I doubt I could tell which setting was which in a blind listening.

After settling on "2," I played Charles Mackerras conducting the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra performing the ballet version (arranged by Charles Mackerras) of Gilbert and Sullivan's opera Pineapple Poll (EMI LP ESD 7028). I have enjoyed this stunning demonstration-quality recording since I discovered it on Harry Pearson's Super Disc list in the 1980s. This is British music on British vinyl featuring EMI's best recorded sound. I wondered if a Japanese record player could ever really play it properly?

To my amusement, with the Hana SL Mk.II on Technics' SL-1300G, this disc sounded surprisingly much like it does on my Linn LP12 with an old Koetsu cartridge. I noticed this similarity immediately. As the Union Jack fluttered, I observed a relaxed openness, with a ginlike transparency, and pure saturated tones—the definition of British sound.

What I'm describing here is a $3300 turntable with an $850 moving coil cartridge feeding an $850 kit phono stage that plays with the assured vigor and understated sophistication of record players costing several times as much.

This is the kind of mid-level audio that could be aspirational to persons with modest resources and luxury taste, and possibly an end-game solution for persons seeking a durable, precisely engineered tool for enjoying their record collection.

I found a new drug
Initially, the Technics SL-1300G played smooth and quiet to a point where for a while I thought it was too smooth and too seductive. Then just as I'd get lulled out, it would startle me with a sledgehammer bass transient, followed by a head-rushing bevy of train-wrecking momentum. I forgot how quiet turntables with great tonearms are the ones most likely to startle listeners. Turns out, this deck's best talent was how it could go from dreamy and dead silent to explosive—with elan, and understated ease.

Like all Technics turntables, the SL-1300G was engineered to be set up easily and correctly by average users, and to last decades under heavy use. In my system, the 1300G performed like a Class A turntable at a Class B price. That's why it's my new budget reference.

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COMMENTS
Ortofan's picture

... a "budget" reference turntable?

HR ought to evaluate the $1,100 Technics SL-100C, which includes an Audio-Technica AT-VM95C cartridge. HR gave a favorable review to the AT-VM95C in this column:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/gramophone-dreams-44-audio-technica-goldring-lp-gear-phono-cartridges

https://us.technics.com/products/direct-drive-turntable-sl-100c

Glotz's picture

'reference', he used.

This deck is superior to the SL-1000C at 1/3rd the price because of the very reasons Herb put forth- reduction of resonances, ability to mine details and direct-drive rhythm. His other references are way higher in cost.

It is also a very solid and trustworthy review.

Ortofan's picture

... would you rather have the SL-1300G, or the SL-100C and $2K worth of LPs?

Glotz's picture

Definitely, truthfully, the 1300G.

With all turntables, along with the tonearm, is the potential foundation for sound and dictates how well the cartridge sounds. It's really, very critical in getting really top-quality sound.

The extra resonance control is really the separating factor for the delicate detail retrieval, all too hard to do at lower price points (and the very reason why people upgrade in analog).

And I agree with Herb that Technics spends huge time and effort into readily hearing audible differences that they engineer to and only sell what would be readily heard as different to the consumer.

As a side note, if Technics feels it's an appreciable difference, it's my job as a listener to find and verify those claims. If I don't hear them, I am doing something wrong- Not Technics (or Herb for that matter).

DaveinSM's picture

SL-100c and $2k worth of LPs. All day. And it has auto lift, something the SL-1300g apparently does not. Bound to save some cartridge wear and just plain convenient

DaveinSM's picture

I’d like to see a review of that turntable too

rpeluso's picture

I just placed an order for one , based partly on this review. Also a Sumiko Starling to go with it. Anticipation is sky high at the moment.

Ortofan's picture

... $3,300 turntable make sense?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfNlz5x-O5M

rpeluso's picture

Once I have it here and set up, you can come and listen for yourself vs an opinion from a video. It sure makes sense to me. And seriously, why do you care how I make decisions and choices?

Ortofan's picture

... comparison between the turntable and cartridge you have on order and the $1K more expensive Technics SL-1200G (with the magnesium tonearm) and a $1K less expensive cartridge, such as the Audio-Technica AT-OC9XSL or the Sumiko Songbird.

Perhaps a Stereophile reviewer could solicit the opinions of Bill Voss and Tadayoshi Okuda in that regard.

Metalhead's picture

Being an ok boomer and remembering the days when the focus was almost entirely on the cartridge selection and barely a mention of the sonic impact of the tonearm and deck I can understand your rationale for the cartridge.
In any event congratulations on your purchase and hope you happy spinning,.

InotI's picture

Hi,Herb.

I posted a comment on the page where you described your home brew Nagaoka MP-200 saying that I tried the MP-200 stylus on the MP-110 body and didn't think it sounded good. I suggested that you try a genuine MP-200. In the present article, you say you use a $509 MP-200, which implies that you bought the real thing. Is this so? If so, did you discover, as I did, that the genuine MP-200 sounds much better than the MP-200 stylus on an MP-110 body?

Herb Reichert's picture

I am still using my "engine swap" Nagaoka.

I call it a $509 MP-200 because that is what it will cost you to have one.

And besides, I truly love the way mine sounds.

herb

InotI's picture

Thanks for the reply, Herb.

I am glad you like your hybrid MP-200. But I still encourage you to buy a genuine MP-200. I think they are around $400 on ebay, up from $350 just a couple of months ago. The improvement over the hybrid is significant, particularly in the clarity of the high frequencies.

A Jelco HS-25 headshell (magnesium alloy, two pins) will also improve the sound on your Technics turntable. The LPGear Zupreme was made by Jelco.

For what it's worth.

Herb Reichert's picture

Before I spend $400 of my own money, please help me find any concrete evidence to suggest the 'real' MP200 has a different coil than the MP110.

I searched long and hard but could not find any facts to support the MP200 coil as being different than the 110's.

Otherwise what make's MP200 sound improved?

Thanks in advance for any help you can supply.

peace and great midranges

herb

InotI's picture

Hi again, Herb.

The only evidence I know of that might point to the fact that the Nagaoka MP-200 and MP-110 have different engines (my term) is that the output voltage for the MP-200 is 4 mV and the output voltage for the MP-110 is 5 mV.

Another fact to consider is that the MP-200 and MP-300 have basically the same stylus, nude elliptical on a boron cantilever, but they have different output voltages and the MP-300 is more expensive. If all of the Nagaoka cartridges used the same engine, why would the MP-300 exist?

Finally, LP Gear, the site where you probably got the $509 price for the MP-200 adds the following to the Nagaoka cartridge descriptions:

Note: Nagaoka created the MP cartridges for use with their specified stylus. Thus using a MP200 stylus (JNP200) with a MP150 cartridge may upgrade its sound quality (SQ) BUT will not turn it into a MP200 cartridge. Same for the MP100 and MP110, MP300 and MP500.

It's of course up to you if you want to shell out for a genuine MP-200 and see if this crackpot is right when he says it sounds better than an MP-200 stylus on an MP-110 body.

As a reviewer, you are perhaps in the unique situation of getting products for free that you can keep. Maybe your SL-1300G was a freebie. Most of us have to pay to try new products, so we do so within the budget range we can afford or at least justify. For example, I bought the SL-1200Mk7 when it came out in 2019 for $900 because I knew it was the sort of turntable I would enjoy for years. I was right! I didn't even consider the SL-1200GR or SL-1200G because they were more expensive and, in the case of the GR, there was little to justify the extra price (same tonearm, same drive system as the Mk7).

Incidentally, as I've tried to tell you before, I am very happy with two products you reviewed positively, both of which were good values too. They are the Schiit Aegir (OG) amplifier [was $800] and the Denafrips Ares II DAC [was $850].

I also built a DIY ACA Mini amplifier [$130!], based on your mention of it. You said you'd review it, but I don't think you did. In any case, it was a fun project (so fun I built a second one!), and it sounds very good with my largest speakers. Unfortunately it doesn't drive bookshelf speakers very well, maybe due to the low damping factor (10).

Enough, enough! Just enjoying having your ear and being able to thank you for some good recommendations.

If you try a genuine MP-200, let us know. If you choose not to, no problem.

Best wishes from California,

Bruce

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