Fern & Roby Amp No. 2 integrated amplifier Page 2

Impressively, "Bonaparte's Retreat" showed me upfront what Fern & Roby's Amp No. 2 was capable of, at least as far as powering my 15 ohm Falcons. While playing Stepp's "Bonaparte," it showcased its talent for spirited rhythm keeping and tone truthfulness. Instrumental and vocal textures were marginally less pronounced and less contrasty than I experience with Elekit's TU-8900 or the Parasound Halo A 21+ amplifier driving the same speakers. But this does not mean the No. 2 plays dull or blurred; it does not. Its demeanor is crisp, naturally focused, and superathletic, with excellent flow and boogie. It doesn't sound solid state. Or soft. Or tubey. Or anything but exciting.

I've noticed that, when I'm listening to recordings and the sound is extra-lucid, super-transparent, and demonstration-quality amazing, my left brain gets stuck oohing and awing at what its engineers have wrought. Eventually, with repeated listening to the same album, my right brain steps in (or my left brain gets out of the way) and the musician's work comes forward.

No repeated listening was required when I listened to Todd Garfinkle's production of Sorrow of the River (M•A Recordings 074A) featuring Guo Ya-zhi playing his suona in a small percussion and wind ensemble performing 12 traditional Chinese folk songs. As I listened, I kept shaking my head in awe of the purity, staggering dimensionality, and unaffected beauty of the recorded sound. But this recording's fantastic sound immediately helped me focus on the work of individual musicians, allowing me to notice how readily their playing inspired reveries propelled by a strong sense of motion: rivers flowing, birds swooping, sirens singing, minstrels marching—movements suggested by the onomatopoetics of Sorrow's sweeping melodies.

I used this recording to see how the 25W Amp No. 2 (and my Onkyo CD player) would handle plucked strings and the suona's delicate, flutelike tones floating over thunderous earth-shaking drums. This was Amp No. 2's most dramatic success. The Fern & Roby made this fantastic recording sound wild and primordial, but it also made it sound bright and pristinely focused, with each instrument distinctly outlined and nailed to an exact spot on the soundstage floor. Spellbinding.

What I enjoyed most in using the Fern & Roby No. 2 was how it succinctly conveyed contrasting elements: loud and quiet, far and near, present and absent, foggy and clear.

The Amp No. 2's phono input
When I inquired about MC loading options, Chris Hildebrand told me the No. 2 loads moving coils at one value only: 500 ohms. My main reference cartridge, EMT's JSD 6 moving coil, sports a relatively high 24 ohm internal impedance and the manufacturer recommends a load of 100–200 ohms. During my JSD 6 auditions in GD78, I experimented with 100 ohms and 500 ohms via MoFi's new MasterPhono and PrimaLuna's all-tube EVO 100 phono stage. With both preamps, I found that 100 ohms gave my preferred balance between vigor and relaxed breathing, but 500 ohms seemed okay as a second choice.

Using the Amp No. 2 with the EMT moving coil, the sound was bright lighting-wise, exceedingly clear and resolved, but more upfront than with the MoFi MasterPhono at 100 ohms. Playing a first pressing of Slim Harpo Sings Raining in my Heart (Excello LP 8003), I heard a bunch of tiny low-signal sounds that I never noticed before. However, I've played this 1961 mono record with countless cartridges and phono stages and they all made it sound rich of tone and dramatically textured, with a whisky-colored dose of early '60s tube glow and Fairchild-compressor presence; the No. 2 with the JSD 6 reduced those effects to something more hi-fi sounding. The JSD 6 into the No. 2's MC input made this vintage recording sound like a modern, drier, hyper-detailed reissue. Bass was clean, perky, and tight, but not as relaxed or heavy loping as it should be.

Fortunately, Harpo's iconic nasal "I'm a King Bee" voice and incredible "Raining in My Heart" harmonica came completely back with Denon's DL-103 moving coil mounted on my 1969 Lenco. With that deck and cartridge, Slim's vibe came alive. His harmonica crackled with full tactility and lit up the air like streak lightning.

Fern & Roby's MC phono suppressed none of the Denon's musicality. What came out of my Falcons reminded me a lot of what came out of jukeboxes ca. 1961: the sound was punchy, crunchy, chunky, and slow-danceable. The No. 2 pulled good blues romance from the DL-103.

Playing through the No. 2's 47k ohm MM input, Ortofon's 2M Black moving magnet cartridge (standard, not LVB version) sounded satisfyingly rich, relaxed, and refined. Soundspace depth was excellent. But compared to the Denon moving coil and the EMT, macrodynamics felt less macro. The Black made Harpo's deep-throated voice and signature nasality sound restrained and Slim's harmonica harmonics feel too tidy.

With the DeVore Fidelity O/93
Hoping to make a system that could show Fern & Roby's Amp No. 2 in a way it might be used, I connected my 10 ohm, 93dB sensitive DeVore Fidelity O/93 floor-standing speakers. F&R's 8 ohm Raven III speakers are specified at 94dB sensitivity, measure approximately 33" × 12" × 12", weigh 55lb each, and cost $8500/pair. The DeVore O/93's measure 35" × 15" × 10", weigh 46lb, and cost $8400/pair. Both are ported boxes with 10" paper-cone drivers from SEAS and wide front baffles.

I celebrated the DeVore–F&R marriage by listening to Todd Garfinkle's latest release Será Una Noche Otra Noche in a 24/176.4 WAV file via dCS's Lina DAC and Master Clock. Otra Noche (M092A) is a continuation of M•A Recordings' project "Sera Una Noche," which began in 1998, then continued with La Segunda in 2003 (footnote 6). Now, 20 years later, Otra Noche appears. It is the most vividly descriptive digital recording I've ever encountered. It comes across like 70mm film, in Technicolor. No recording I know delivers dimensionality more voluminous or explicitly portrayed.

This Otra Noche WAV file has raised my opinion of what digital recording is capable of, how flat-out amazing the dCS Lina DAC can sound, and what talented musicians and master recordist-producer Todd Garfinkle can accomplish with two microphones in a small stone church.

Otra Noche's demonstration-quality sound elicited a scintillating star turn from the DeVore Fidelity O/93's, which have never sounded faster, more resolving, more transparent, or more revved-up alive than when powered by the F&R integrated.

This was Fern & Roby's top "wow!" moment, wherein the Amp No. 2 flaunted its dynamic charge, rhythm-keeping prowess, and invisibility. The No. 2's front panel seems so Pledge wax–ready—you really could put it on your grandma's bureau—that I was surprised how much dirt-kicking, bucking-bull energy it could pump into the DeVore O/93's.

With the GoldenEar BRX
Having heard the results when the Amp No. 2 put clean voltage into the 15 ohm Falcons and the 10 ohm DeVores, I was curious to see if it could sink enough quick current into a load that's less than 4 ohms.

Every time I play GoldenEar's BRX speakers, I'm reminded how much I love their contoured MDF cabinets, bent-metal grilles, folded-ribbon tweeters, and their balanced, transparent sound. The BRXs impress me with the depth of their tuneful bass, extraordinary transparency, and (with the right amp) lively, superclean dynamics.

And guess what? Powered by F&R's Amp No. 2, the BRX sang like the Queen of Gospel and danced like the King of Pop. Powering the GoldenEars, the F&R produced exquisite tone, tantalizing detail, electrically charged transients, and quick, clean bass, with no evidence of clipping or distortion.

The F&R Amp No. 2 and the GoldenEar BRX speakers flattered each other. I love it when that happens.

Compared to the Pass Labs INT-25
Despite very different cosmetics, the 25W, $7250 Pass Labs class-A INT-25 integrated amplifier, which I reviewed in January 2020, seemed like a proper comparison for the 25W, $8500 Fern & Roby Amp No. 2.

As I have stated many times, the Nelson Pass–designed INT-25 is the most transparent and flat-out dynamic solid state amplifier I've encountered. That remains true. Fern & Roby's Amp No. 2 was a bit less transparent and a bit less supercharged, but its talent for singing, dancing, and making beautiful sound resulted in sensual pleasures I've never gotten with the INT-25. The No. 2 presents music with a vital, spirited charm that I found pleasantly addictive and deeply satisfying.

Conclusion
One night, as I was listening to my system with the Amp No. 2, I found myself thinking, Omg! This amp is really lighting up those DeVores! I wondered how F&R managed to get this much vivid, high-energy excitement out of an amp that looks laid-back and tasteful. Then I remembered that the Amp No. 2's designer, Michael Bettinger, and his company G.A.S. have carried on a 40-year relationship with the designs of one of my heroes, James Bongiorno, chief designer at SAE, G.A.S., and Sumo.

As I remember it, Bongiorno's wild-style Ampzilla was the opposite of tasteful and domestic. It had an industrial look and a type-A personality, and it was the first solid state amp I felt I could marry and settle down with. During these auditions, Fern & Roby's Amp No. 2 performed like a silk-suited version of that renowned monster. And that is extremely high praise.

Michael Bettinger and Christopher Hildebrand have accomplished exactly what they set out to do: produced something that could turn people's living rooms "into the best listening room possible."


Footnote 6: In addition to the 24/176.4 WAV file I described, Será Una Noche Otra Noche is available as a double DSD; see bit.ly/OtraNocheDSD. A CD will soon be available, and a 2LP set is coming later this year.

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Archimago's picture

Wow. For a device >$8000 with relatively low output power, there are quite a few issues!

Knowing JA's standard tests over the years, I would have thought that all audiophile companies by now would have tried to ensure quality over obvious concerns like hum, channel imbalances, phono compensation errors, etc. which could be quite audible in certain systems before submission for reviews! (That the subjective reviewer was unable to notice some of these concerns is unfortunate but perhaps not surprising.)

So when the manufacturer comments that "All the items in the technical review have already been addressed in our production units.", is it normal for the reviewers to test prototypes/non-production units? Maybe they're saying that early units like the one being reviewed has problems - if so are they recalling these early units with issues?

For potential consumers, hopefully an actual "production" unit might be tested to confirm the claim that things have been improved.

Jim Austin's picture

The unit reviewed was a production unit or was presented as such--and I believe it was; certainly it had a serial number. I talked to the proprietor (Hildebrand) at AXPONA; the electronic design was outsourced, and the designer didn't know what he had. In some respects--particularly the RIAA correction--this seems like a misfire, a product we should not have reviewed--except that it has some special qualities, as Herb's listening notes make clear. And I trust Herb's ears completely--not as a proxy for measurements (we've got that covered) but as someone who knows and can vividly describe good sound.

So when Hildebrand writes, "There is always something valuable to be learned, and an opportunity to improve a design, when someone else runs your product through a rigorous independent analysis. All the items in the technical review have already been addressed in our production units," I believe he means all production units "from now on." And I believe he is sincere.

Best Wishes,
Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

David Harper's picture

So if I understand you correctly you're saying that in spite of the obvious technical flaws and inferiority of this amp your faith in Herb's golden ears convinces you that the amp must have some sound quality that is inexplicable and therefore unfalsifiable. The perfect audiophile argument.

teched58's picture

One must applaud Jim's forthrightness in confirming that this is a production unit, esp since the reader takeaway from this is that this company needs to work on its QC.

Jim Austin's picture

So if I understand you correctly you're saying that in spite of the obvious technical flaws and inferiority of this amp your faith in Herb's golden ears convinces you that the amp must have some sound quality that is inexplicable and therefore unfalsifiable.

That is indeed pretty close to what I'm saying. Your choice of words in characterizing it, though, betrays a profound naiveté--specifically a measurements-first hierarchy: If you can't measure it, it isn't real. That's an attitude that has, fortunately, been rejected by most of those in our industry who make things. Real quantitative chops and deep knowledge of theory and best practice are essential for a skilled engineer, but almost all will tell you that that gets you only part of the way there. I can think of only a few exceptions. There's no need to attribute good sound to anything mystical, but often it is inexplicable. But even if it isn't explicable, it is audible, and all hearing it requires is experience and ears that are open--not golden.

I saw the amp in question at AXPONA, but it wasn't playing music, so I can't comment on the sound. But I'll take Herb's many decades of deep-dive experience over any half-assed skeptic. If he says it sounds good, and it measures poorly, then it sounds good in spite of measuring poorly.

I see advantages in your apparent worldview. It is nice to think that things are so explicable, so easy to trace every effect back to some obvious cause. But the world doesn't work like that, or not as often as we wish it did.

I have no time to continue this conversation. Go ahead, do your best, I won't respond. And don't forget to tell the folks over at ASR about it.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

David Harper's picture

My choice of words was unnecessarily antagonistic. I can agree with most of what you say.

Jim Austin's picture

I appreciate your generosity.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

teched58's picture

JA2 wrote:

: If you can't measure it, it isn't real. That's an attitude that has, fortunately, been rejected by most of those in our industry who make things. Real quantitative chops and deep knowledge of theory and best practice are essential for a skilled engineer, but almost all will tell you that that gets you only part of the way there.

Mysticism may perhaps sometimes be helpful to explain phenomena which are refractory to the human brain and/or experience.

But to think such nonsense is operative when you're measuring frequency reponse or noise or the many other well-characterized things we do when we seek to characterize the performance of electronic equipment, that's just laughable.

DH's picture

Is that he should have heard something amiss in the sound with those measurements. If he didn’t, that indicates that his golden ears aren’t so golden. Maybe only silver….
And yes, there needs to be a follow up measurement of a production unit to see if the faults have been corrected.
That would only help the manufacturer.

MatthewT's picture

over at ASR you remind me why I don't.

Steeler's picture

On a pedantic, non-hifi note, Bonaparte was repelled from Russia in 1812, hence the 1812 Overture, which celebrated the event. 1815 marked his final defeat at Waterloo.

ok's picture

it's a bit strange (and consumer unsettling) that the last three amplifiers tested at stereophile arrived all damaged.

Anton's picture

If a manufacturer can't get an unbroken "production" model to Stereophile, then I'm out.

Glotz's picture

Small boutique manufacturers are great until they're not...

supamark's picture

but when I was reviewing stuff I was occassionally like the 3rd or 4th person to review it and the boxes I got were beat to hell. I don't think many mfg's bring the items back to the shop between reviews either.

Not lying, when I saw the picture then JA's comments about the volume control I pictured in my head that the knob turned a twig inside the amp.

MatthewT's picture

Fred Flintstone probably had one of these.

Axiom05's picture

JA should be charging for his lab service to measure these unfinished products. Clearly these companies aren't investing in the proper equipment to evaluate their own prototypes. Why should they? Just send it to Stereophile and get free data.

georgehifi's picture

Anton: "If a manufacturer can't get an unbroken "production" model to Stereophile, then I'm out."

Yeah, this happens all too often for my liking also, go back over the years there are way way too many of these "faulty" ones showing up for testing/review.
You would think the one the manufacturer sends to Stereophile is even better spec'd and adjusted than a retail one, and wrapped up in bed mattress for delivery so it makes it safely.

Cheers George

Anton's picture

“Close enough for a subjectivist!”

100% pure joking: trying to bridge the divide between Ashla and Bogan!

John David Spoon's picture

This review and the manufacturer's response present quite a dilemma to me as someone in the market for precisely this integrated amp's feature offerings and for whom the price point fits neatly within the scope of what I'm looking to build. On the one hand, I'm quite willing to grant the esteemed Herb Reichert the benefit of the doubt and concede that his experience in evaluating systems significantly exceeds mine. He variously offers that the system sounds "crisp," "pristinely focused," and "transparent" among numerous positive descriptors across the breadth of supporting electronics and speakers. These are all things a potential consumer would want to hear from someone knowledgeable and experienced in evaluating these things.

But at the same time, few people I know would be intrinsically happy purchasing something that was known to be notably flawed. If the sampled unit sounded that way with the issues identified in the changes, should we be reassured that the shortcomings have indeed been addressed in a unit we purchased? Moreover, if those attributes and descriptors are a function of the unit functioning as-is, is it not reasonable to expect that making whatever corrections are necessary to remediate those issues will, at least to some extent, change the fundamental perceived performance it delivers? Would it be unreasonable to expect to see this model revisited soon with a revised listening and measurement re-evaluation? I have to say, I'd be extremely reluctant to pull the trigger on this, as it stands.

David Harper's picture

My only problem here is that $8K for this particular component, given the reported performance of it, seems more than a little unjustified. Consider that a Schiit Vidar amp can be had for about $800. If one reads and compares the specs of these two amps there can only be one conclusion.

funambulistic's picture

... the one conclusion being the Amp No. 2 is an integrated and the Vidar is strictly a power amp. That is what you were going for, correct?

helomech's picture

of an underserving boutique brand attempting to exploit the naïveté of audiophiles and their proclivity to of correlating aesthetics and price with performance. With exception of the faceplate, knobs and milled remote, this product likely cost less to manufacture than any $400 mass market AVR.

Hopefully the out-sourced electrical designer made off like a bandit too.

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