Accustic Arts AMP V power amplifier Measurements

Sidebar 3: Measurements

Usually, when I measure an amplification or digital product, I carry the box down the stairs to my basement, where I have my listening room and test lab. However, the Accustic Arts AMP V was too heavy for me to do this. Instead, I rolled it in its wheeled flightcase into the vestibule outside the listening room, removed the flightcase cover, and left the amplifier sitting in the flightcase (footnote 1) at the top of the small flight of stairs. I then set up my Audio Precision SYS2722 system (see the January 2008 As We See It) with its dedicated PC, my analog and digital oscilloscopes, test loads, etc, at the foot of the stairs. The amplifier's two AC leads were plugged into the closest wall socket, along with those for the test system. (This is to avoid ground loops.)

Before I performed the testing, I preconditioned the amplifier by running it at one-eighth its specified power into 8 ohms for 30 minutes, as recommended by the CEA. After the preconditioning, the heatsinks on the amplifier's sides were hot, at 113.4°F (45.3°C). The top panel was warm, at 105.0°F (40.6°C).

Soon after I began the testing—after the preconditioning period—the 15A circuit breaker serving the wall socket into which everything was plugged tripped. (At the time I was measuring distortion at a high power into 4 ohms.) I therefore ran two long extension cords from the 20A wall sockets in the test lab, one for the amplifier, the other for the test gear, and started where I had left off.

The AMP V's specified voltage gain is 30dB. I measured 30.9dB into 8 ohms for the balanced inputs and 30.75dB for the single-ended inputs. All the inputs and outputs preserved absolute polarity, ie, were noninverting. The input impedance was lower than the specified values: 10k ohms balanced, across the audioband, rather than the specified 32k ohms; the unbalanced input impedance was 6.7k ohms compared with the specified 15k ohms. Still, both values are high enough that compatibility problems are unlikely. With the Damping Factor correction switched off, the output impedance (including the series impedance of 6' of spaced-pair cable) was low, at 0.14 ohm from 20Hz to 20kHz. Turning on the Damping Factor increased the output impedance slightly, to 0.2 ohm. Even so, the response with our standard simulated loudspeaker varied by less than ±0.2dB (fig.1, gray trace). The response into 8 ohms (blue and red traces) was down by 1.5dB at 200kHz, and the AMP V's reproduction of a 10kHz squarewave (fig.2) featured short risetimes with no overshoot or ringing. Figs.1 and 2 were taken with the balanced inputs. The frequency and squarewave responses were the same for the unbalanced inputs and with Damping Factor on and off.

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Fig.1 Accustic Arts AMP V, Damping Factor On, frequency response at 2.83V into: simulated loudspeaker load (gray), 8 ohms (left channel blue, right red), 4 ohms (left cyan, right magenta), and 2 ohms (green) (0.5dB/vertical div.).

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Fig.2 Accustic Arts AMP V, small-signal, 10kHz squarewave into 8 ohms.

Likely as a result of its dual-mono construction, the amplifier's channel separation was a superb 110dB in both directions below 1kHz, falling to 80dB at the top of the audioband, presumably due to capacitive coupling between channels. Measured with the single-ended inputs shorted to ground, the Accustic's wideband, unweighted signal/noise ratio was a good 72.3dB ref. 1W into 8 ohms (average of both channels). This ratio improved to 80.5dB when the measurement bandwidth was restricted to 22Hz–22kHz, and to 83.3dB when the reading was A-weighted. The spectra shown in fig.4 were taken at 1Wpc into 8 ohms. Spuriae can be seen at 60Hz and its odd-order harmonics, which will be due to magnetic coupling from the two massive power transformers. However, these spuriae are very low in level.

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Fig.3 Accustic Arts AMP V, spectrum of 1kHz sinewave, DC–1kHz, at 1Wpc into 8 ohms (left channel blue, right red) (linear frequency scale).

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Fig.4 Accustic Arts AMP V, THD+N (%) vs 1kHz continuous output power into 8 ohms.

I examined how the percentage of THD+N varied with output power, with clipping defined as when the THD+noise in the amplifier's output reached 1%. With both channels driven into 8 ohms, the AMP V didn't meet its specified maximum power of 900Wpc (29.54dBW) at 1% THD+N, clipping at 665Wpc (28.23dBW, fig.4); note, however, that I don't hold the wall voltage constant during the testing, and the wall voltage dropped from 119.2V with the amplifier idling to 114.2V with both channels of the amplifier clipping into 8 ohms. Similarly, into 4 ohms, again with both channels driven, I measured clipping power of 890Wpc (26.5dBW, fig.5); the specified value is 1360Wpc (28.325dBW). This time, the wall voltage dropped to 111.5V.

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Fig.5 Accustic Arts AMP V, THD+N (%) vs 1kHz continuous output power into 4 ohms.

As I always do, I saved the measurement of the AMP V's clipping power into 2 ohms until the very end. However, when I performed my penultimate test, which was to measure how THD+N varied with frequency at 20V (equivalent to 50W into 8 ohms, 100W into 4 ohms, and 200W into 2 ohms), the amplifier turned itself off after 10 seconds of driving 2 ohms at this level (fig.6, gray trace). I had assumed that this would be due to protection circuitry doing its job; however, after I removed the power cables, let the amplifier cool down, and plugged it back in, it wouldn't turn on again. Each of the two AC power sockets has two fuses; all four were okay. The AMP V also has internal fuses, which must have gone open-circuit. I removed the 10 bolts that hold the top panel in place, but I wasn't able to remove it. I tried everything I could think of that did not present a substantial risk of damaging the finish.

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Fig.6 Accustic Arts AMP V, THD+N (%) vs frequency at 20V into: 8 ohms (left channel blue, right red), 4 ohms (left cyan, right magenta), 2 ohms (left, gray).

Returning to the measurements: Fig.6 shows that the distortion is very low over most of the audioband into both 8 and 4 ohms, though a little higher in the right channel (red and magenta traces) than the left (blue, cyan traces). The THD rises in the top octave—this will be due to a restricted open-loop bandwidth reducing the amount of negative feedback available—but it remains below 0.17% at 20kHz into 4 ohms.

The waveform of the THD+N at 100Wpc into 8 ohms with the 1kHz fundamental notched out (fig.7) suggests that the distortion signature consists primarily of low-order harmonics. The spectrum of the AMP V's output with a 50Hz signal at that level into 8 ohms (fig.8) shows that the second harmonic lay at –106dB (0.0005%) in both channels, the third harmonic at –96dB in the left channel (0.0015%, blue trace) and at –88dB in the right channel (0.004%, red trace). Supply-related spuriae are visible, but all lie at or below –96dB. Fig.9 shows the spectrum of the AMP V's output as it drove an equal mix of 19 and 20kHz tones into 8 ohms at a peak level of 100Wpc. The second-order difference product at 1kHz lies at a negligible –100dB (0.001%), and the higher-order intermodulation products are all at or below –86dB (0.005%).

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Fig.7 Accustic Arts AMP V, 1kHz waveform at 100Wpc into 8 ohms, 0.0039% THD+N (top); distortion and noise waveform with fundamental notched out (bottom, not to scale).

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Fig.8 Accustic Arts AMP V, spectrum of 50Hz sinewave, DC–1kHz, at 100Wpc into 8 ohms (left channel blue, right red) (linear frequency scale).

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Fig.9 Accustic Arts AMP V, HF intermodulation spectrum, DC–30kHz, 19+20kHz at 100Wpc peak into 8 ohms (left channel blue, right red) (linear frequency scale).

The Accustic Arts AMP V offers extremely high power coupled with extremely low distortion. But why did those internal fuses blow—assuming that's what happened—after a short while driving 200Wpc into 2 ohms with high-frequency test tones? I don't know what caused it, but I can confidently say that this is unlikely to happen with a music signal.—John Atkinson


Footnote 1: As the flightcase base rose only a couple of inches up the sides of this large amplifier, ventilation was unlikely to be significantly affected.
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Gavinspen's picture

We have a dish in Ireland, Google it
It's called champ.i guess
You guys are going all Michelin star on us.What a load of crap,oh I know I will get berated so what my bottle of wine cost more than yours
Although my cellar ain't the best and the ambience is lacking.
Old farts!!
Shoot me now!
Sorry for trolling but I
Felt a movement....

georgehifi's picture

"I felt here that the Accustic Arts amp was more single-mindedly yang in character and the D'Agostino mono more successful in tempering yin with yang"

This statement to me is typical of an A/B between 2 big quality linear push/pull Class-A/B amps, one being Mosfet the other being Bi-Polar (BJT) output stages

Cheers George

Jack L's picture

Hi

Yin & yang always co-exist, being complementary each other instead of competition. This is how the nature works per the oriental philosophy.

But both Accustic V & D'Agostino in fact compete against each other in the marketplace within arm's length (same price range) !!!! So Yin & yang are not appliable to them, IMO.

I've not had the chance to read the power O/P stage schematics of both power amps. Reviews said Accustic V used MosFet devices. But what output devices used in A'Agostino M550 were never mentioned. How did you find out what power devices used in M550 ? BPJ ??

All roads lead to Rome. I don't believe mega-weighted mega powers should sound "more musical"(per Voss) than light-weighted lower powered amps given proper loudspeake matching.

Listening is believing

Jack L

Gavinspen's picture

As aspected subtle
Sublime esoteric and
Clever....

tonykaz's picture

Well, you are probably right, people with disposable funds in the $50,000 range considering this kind of purchase are probably dilettante inheritors.

Isn't this Amp being marketed specifically to the Status/Ego customer ?

It's amplification performance needs to impress the dealer/salesman so that they can promise significant greatness and exclusivity.

Should we readership be asking if Stereophile now caters to the Elites or Blue collars ?

Auditioning this Amplifier ( for the not-foolish ) should include a brief description of the flight on the New Gulfstream Personal Jet with juicy descriptives of the Prime Steaks at Ruth Crists ( or Fins ) .

Maybe with Audiophile population numbers diminishing, like they seem to be, our Tent may needs to include gaudy packaged extravagances like this.

or perhaps instead:

A phono cartridge transducer review specialist to do full line evaluations of the Grado series, Audioquest series, Dynavector Series and all the other Phono Cartridges commonly available to mail order buyers .

Tony in Florida

ps. the word "foolish" making it to print shows that hubris is creeping into the Editorial Standards of this Magazine

MatthewT's picture

To do what is says on the tin: "Stereophile covers everything high-end and audiophile audio." You do love to throw that word around.

tonykaz's picture

The reviewer identifies buyers as "foolish" if they don't consider this multi thousand dollar device. Shouldn't we consider that sort of talking-down as hubris ?

Home Audio is a DIY hobby, isn't it ?

Don't we all build our own systems with carefully selected components that help our recorded music sound better ?

Should we enjoy our Editorial Staff chiding us for being foolish ?

Shouldn't High-End be considered on a Value for money basis, isn't that why we look for authoritative consultation ?

I've been in Pro-Audio Recording Studios that use gear that isn't flashy, pricy, gaudy but performs to established standards beyond Home Audio's.

The best of the Home Audio gear looks better and seems to make music sound better, isn't that why folks pay high prices for gorgeous sculptured Show-off pieces like what Stereophile puts on it's Front Covers.?

Super pricy gear does have an established social purpose: to show everyone who has the highest Status and to enhance Ego structures.

Tony in Florida

MatthewT's picture

To read the magazine?

tonykaz's picture

Mr.JA and a few others are continually raising standards.

I've been a JA fan since the 1980s. when I imported HFN&RR !

Mr. HR, Mr.KM, Mr.RS and a few others are brilliant.

The new girl seems insightful.

Stereophile is still worthwhile plus interesting people like you are part of the insightful readership.

Tony in Florida

Jazzlistener's picture

you must have a lot of time on your hands as you are constantly clogging up the comment sections of this and Analog Planet’s comment sections with your unwelcome, irrelevant blather. Here’s an idea, how about trying the senior bingo nights a few times a week where you will no doubt find many other old men shouting at clouds.

tonykaz's picture

My point of view is representative of close to 85% of the earth's population.

Analog Planet and Jazz both are niche in the real world & old-school like the Bingo you mention.

So, Sir, you may be the irrelevant one. ( in a philosophical sense )

Thank you for writhing, it's what this comment section is all about, isn't it?

Generalised sarcasm like your bingo comment is anger or is it just late nite Booze?

We have another great decade of scientific development unfolding, right here at Stereophile is a wonderful vantage point to see some of it happen.

Tony in Florida

Jim Austin's picture

Here's the actual quote:

Anyone with a spare $50,000 (and who doesn't require easy portability) would be foolish not to give it a serious audition.

We review gear at all prices, Tony, except perhaps the "blue-collar" box-store stuff. (Do box stores still exist?) Not all the products we review will be in your sweet spot. There's no need to be offended, or to take it as some sort of moral offense: Stereophile has other readers who have interests different from yours. I welcome your interest, but Stereophile does not exist for you alone. Misquoting, or mischaracterizing, a reviewer to make some point is not welcome.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

Anton's picture

I tried to write a reply but they all leaned toward the profane.

I really don't know the price sweet spot.

Don't know if there is a direct reader price/interest correlation, or if it the inverse.

Looking at how reviews catch my eye, I can remember in detail the review of the Golden Ear Triton reference, but couldn't tell you squat about the Göbel Divin Marquis, the Tidal Audio Akira, or the Wilson Audio Specialties Chronosonic XVX. I mean, I am sure I read the reviews, but had to click into "Recommended Components" list to take another peak beyond the price event horizon to be reminded they exist.

Maybe there is a section of readership that dwells in the thin air up there! I like aspirational reviews, but then I hit the ones that no amount of work and pain could deliver them unto me, and my attention does drift sometimes.

Our hobby has a very wide range! Honestly, nobody does it better than Stereophile, for me.

Anybody with a spare 12.99 would be foolish not to subscribe.

tonykaz's picture

I've owned and sold gear like this Amplifier.

I'm objecting to using "foolish" as a descriptive term.

I'm not saying it's foolish to use a term like that but you probably should.

Tony in Florida

noamgeller's picture

Dear Editors of Stereophile

I saw yesterday an interesting documentary on NYC Billionaire Row.
https://youtu.be/Wehsz38P74g
It seems like High-End suffers from the same fate... More and more Luxury Firms are building for the 0.1pecent... and I don't blame them. Either you charge more or you're out of the game. Why should a potential buyer should settle for the seconed highest when the next building blocks your Central Park view? Here we are the rest 99Percent looking high in the sky at those skescrapers and shaking are heads... knowing that high up there no one really lives.

tonykaz's picture

Our entire Social World is changing yet again. It isn't just Billionaires in NY.

Last Decade the iPhone changed everyone's life.

The 1st Decade was dominated by our Computerisation.

The 1990s had growth of Income stop, forcing Mom into the workplace. The children became Computer Game people.

The 1980s brought technology to Everyman.

The 1970s brought never ending War, Suburban Life , Boeing 707 Vacation Travel and Super High Inflation.

The 1960s brought Interstate Highways, Camping, National Parks and a hope filled future .

The 1950s were rather simple : Red Bikes under the Christmas Trees, Baseball on the AC/DC tubed Bakelite table Radios, canning garden tomatoes in the pressure cooker

As of now:
Our Recorded Music world has already powerfulllllllly changed -- for the better! :
1.) RtoR DACs have replaced Koetsu Phono Cartridges
2.) Streaming has replaced our Linn LP12 record Players
3.). Class D Amplification has supplanted the Big Beautiful Sculptured Amplifiers
4.). Loudspeaker Transducer design implementations have come down in actual cost bringing increased availability.
5.). Shirt pocket Audiophile Systems are everywhere on the Planet
6.). Skilled Individuals have become Publishers with wider circulations that traditional Print Media.

Looking over the Horizon,
a.) what audio gear will we be listening to in 2030 ?
b.) what will our latest Audio music format be ??
c.) what will StereoExchange be pricing a used 10 year old $50,000 Amplifier at ???
d.) will we all be having wireless Active loudspeakers ????

Tony in Florida

ps. seems like the only thing that hasn't changed is change

Jack L's picture

Hi

It is not too expensive to buy 2x900W for $50,000 = $27.7 per watt considering the sound quality were not in the equation.

How about a USD125,000 17W+17W stereo tube power amp = $3,676.5 per watt !! I auditioned it in depth & I love the sound. NO way I found it could not deliver the music right !!

So its the sound qualifies for its price fairness, right ?

Output power rating is only a number which never tells how good would be the sound.

Listenig is believing

Jack L

tonykaz's picture

Can you reveal your method for establishing a Purchase of one of these pricy Amplification Systems ?

How long of an auditiion in your music system would it take to convince you that this device is worthy of owning ?

How many cabling variations would be involved ( and time commitments required ) to finally reveal the magic combinations ?

How much break-in time will you allow to finally conclude the device has burned in properly ?

Are you committed to take the time and expense of a project like this

or

Are you simply taking the word of our reviewer and Dealer after being dazzled by a Showroom presentation ?

When Krell arrived ( the 1980s ) with their wonderful Amplification we were all probably loving our cherished ARC & Conrad Johnson Tube Amps. The Big Powerful Solid State Krells ( with gorgeous gold screws ) could drive our big dynamic drivers and Ribbon Planers.

So, I wonder, is this $50,000 Amp a device that reaches out further that Mr.D'Agustino has gone? This seems like a Bigness Race.

Our little DIY Audio Hobby seems to have folks that have no financial limits on purchase considerations, they can indulge pricy gear. I wonder how many of them read Stereophile ? ( if any )

Tony in Florida

Jack L's picture

Hi

Yes. I did quite a few times spent time to find out which amps & loudspeakers sound closest to live performance (my yardstick to gauge any audios) out of 'curiosity'. Like the USD125.000 17W+17W tube power amp I mentioned above.

But No, I would never want to spend such monies to acquire any of them.
Why I should spend my money (even with some easy monies I earned from the money markets) to finance the vendors?

I am not that HELPLESS being an engineering DIYer !! Haha!

Jack

JHL's picture

...we readership be asking if Stereophile now caters to the Elites or Blue collars ?"

Only if we need audio woke. Knowing, like we do, how that kind of inevitable projection - which is just the pseudo-virtue of envy - goes...

Jack L's picture

Hi

Audio magazines are for readers of all walks worldwide, "Elites or Blue collars". Therefore reviews of products to suit different "classes" accordingly.

Jack L

Archimago's picture

"Only if we need audio woke. Knowing, like we do, how that kind of inevitable projection - which is just the pseudo-virtue of envy - goes...

Fascinating that when folks criticize extremely expensive and questionably performing devices like these, the defense is often that of "envy".

Envy is only true if one actually has a desire to own these things. I think many times, audiophiles simply critique these products because clearly the objective performance is not good and it's unlikely that claims of remarkable sound quality are true.

JHL's picture

...it conflates well with materialism and we live in enormously materialistic times.

tonykaz's picture

I've owned and sold amplifiers like this.

Owning gear like this is more burdensome than pleasurable .

Imaging the cleaning lady scratching the top of this thing.

Tony in Florida

noamgeller's picture

I should go to the beach and look at the Ocean to get some Perspective.
So I went to Ebay and got the same. Stuff you could buy with 50K (in Germany)
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-autos/preis:45000:50000/seite:2/auto/k0c216

Have Fun!

Archimago's picture

Sounds like your dad is/was a wise man.

Nothing wrong with anyone buying very expensive devices like these of course. I'm sure there are audiophiles who have enough cash to grab something like this many times over but would still look at the performance and wonder why this is worth more than those precision engineered automobiles.

Again that's not "envy". Just an honest question about performance, actual sound quality achievable, and what's reasonable value.

bhkat's picture

Nothing wrong with it. A much better deal than a degree in gender studies for 1/5 the price.

sw23's picture

You are a product design engineer. You are given orders to produce a state of the art stereo product. You make a list of all the components. Get first class stuff. Two of everything. What possible advantage is attained by cramming it all into one box that can't be lifted and has be positioned between the speakers? Are you sparing the consumer the price of a second box at your $50K price point?

David Harper's picture

oops

David Harper's picture

My first thought was to post here some boring self-righteous blather about the obscene self-indulgence of a purchase like this. But in a country where billionaires capable of solving world hunger instead play with space rockets it would be pointless. But I must respectfully disagree with "anyone with a spare 50K would be foolish not to give it a serious audition". Even if I had Jeff Bezos' money I would not consider myself foolish to "not give it a serious audition". A simple matter of price/value. Or cost/benefit. Or something to that effect. But that's just me.

ejlif's picture

JVS reviews about as useless as tits on a boar. I have read a number of these reviews of high end products by JVS and I always come away knowing basically nothing. I wish Stereophile would get rid of this guy and get someone in there who has the sack to say what he actually thinks.

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