Paradigm Founder 120H loudspeaker Associated Equipment

Sidebar 2: Associated Equipment

Digital sources: 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max running Roon 1.8. Lenovo ThinkCentre running Roon on top of Roon Optimized Core Kit (ROCK). Auralic Vega DAC, Bluesound Node 2i streamer, Musical Fidelity V90-DAC, Naim Uniti Atom controlled through iPad Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max, PureAudio Lotus DAC5, RME ADI-2 DAC FS.
Preamplifiers: Benchmark HPA4, Holman Apt (overhauled and returned to factory specs), Naim Uniti Atom, Topping Pre90 with Ext90 input extender.
Power amplifiers: Krell FPB 200c (recapped); Margules U-280SC with stock tubes; McIntosh HPA-100; NAD C 700; Peachtree Nova 300; PrimaLuna EVO 400 integrated with Tung-Sol KT150 and Gold Lion platinum-grade 12AU7 tubes; Schiit Ragnarok.
Loudspeakers: Tekton Moab, MartinLogan Odyssey.
Cables: Audioquest, Amazon, Blue Jeans, Emerald Physics, MIT, Monoprice, Nordost, RSX, Tara Labs, Viborg Audio.
Accessories: Core Power Technologies Equi=Core 1800 Mk2 and Deep=Core 1800 power conditioners on a dedicated 20-amp circuit. Townshend Seismic Isolation Podiums for speakers and power amplifiers.
Listening room: 22' × 14' 6" with 9' ceiling. Lath and plaster. Hardwood floor over reinforced joists. Moderately damped by large, medium-thick rugs, furniture, and a tall bookcase. Wooden stairs on the back wall lead to an open second-floor landing of about 18' × 10'.—Rogier van Bakel

COMPANY INFO
Paradigm Electronics Inc.
205 Annagem Blvd.
Mississauga, Ontario L5T 2V1
Canada
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remlab's picture

Haha! So true!

RH's picture

Nice review, thanks. I was curious how these speakers would measure.
Given my experience auditioning the Persona line I wasn't surprised to see the rising top end. As JA says, seems to be a design choice.

Oh, and as a Canadian, I will affirm that meatloaf can indeed be awesome!

ok's picture

until you taste eurasian meatloafs first!

Jack L's picture

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Sorry, out of audio topic...

If served with mashed baking potatoes, it can indeed be double awesome !

Being a homemade chef, I would mince really lean beef in my kitchen instead of picking up the so called "lean" minced beef from the meat stores.

Jack L

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It could be double "awesome" if you would test it with bi-wiring connection already ready there !

Listening to bi-wiring is believing

Jack L

Indydan's picture

WRONG! Biwiring is useless.

Jack L's picture

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Everything is "useless" to YOU "sick puppy" !

Keep on stalking, pal. You can get nowhere ! HeHee..

Jack L

Indydan's picture

Hey Jackie, you sound confused. Have a little drinky poo today?
https://preview.redd.it/v5gnqzmb6xo91.jpg?auto=webp&s=2cbfd3576b5d5254f7f3be4c8917bf7ce9514b7b

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jyipdragon's picture

What would the point of bi-wiring Founder 120? They already have separate amps for the subwoofers. Seems irrelevant.

Long-time listener's picture

"Fig.5 shows the Founder 120H's horizontal dispersion, normalized to the response on the design axis, which thus appears as a straight line."

I would really prefer you show dispersion NOT normalized to the on-axis response (as you used to a number of years ago). To me, it presents a much clearer and more intuitive picture of actual dispersion patterns.

nunhgrader's picture

Fun review! Thank you

Kyotodoc's picture

Great review! I have the Founder 100F speakers which are the fully passive version. I have not found placement of the speakers to be an issue at all. In fact, I find these speakers to be easy to place, with great off axis response. I suspect there are some room shape/size issues that might have caused you to have to fiddle with them so much, although I am quite surprised that in a large room like yours you have them spaced only 5 1/2 feet apart. My room is much smaller and I have them 8 1/2 feet apart and 9 ft from my listening position with the speakers toed in about 18 degrees.

I agree with all your comments on the sound quality of the speakers- these are the best speakers I have ever heard or owned. They are transparent, detailed and very well balanced and coherent all through the frequency range. You didn't mention anything about their soundstage or imaging so would have liked to hear your take on that. I find the speakers do disappear and soundstage is quite tall and imaging very good. To me the closest comparable speakers are the Revel 228be but with stronger bass response and more engaging. I expect these will be my reference speakers for many years.

Jack L's picture

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BINGO !

It is an acid test for quality sound system that when the music is on, the front loudspeakers should sonically 'vanished' !

Listening is believing

Jack L

Indydan's picture

If only Jackie L would vanish...

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Jack L's picture

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Really? While I have not auditionrf both the Paradigms under review & Revel 228Be side by side (Have you at all ?), I just comment on the technical specs of them.

How come Revel 228Be full-passive floorspeakers can beat the Paradigms with class-D powered woofers by "stronger bass response" ??????

Techhnically impossible !

FTI, Revel 228Be are best for large, larger room, not too good for medium & small rooms as per a publised review of a loudspeakers only review journal.

There are at least 5 brandname full-passive floorspeakers beat Revel
228Be for its deep bass response. Incidentally, they are all same: Goldear Triton series. The lower model Triton 2+ got low frequency response down to 19Hz - full passive.

Jack L

Indydan's picture

Hey Jackie L, I am blowing you a kiss.

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"For me, it wasn't a problem: I like my music loud." qtd RvB.

Not all music should be played back "loud". Classical piano music solo performances, for instance, do not perform "loud" at all & should therefore be played back the same not so loud levels.

Any music performances,e.g rock&roll, soloist guitar or classical piano music or whatever, should be played back at their ORIGINAL performance level as heard at the attendant's location, irrespective of whoever's loudness preference.

Like the famous piano solist piece, my very favourite, Chopin Nocturne E flat major (9/2), it should be played back pretty quiet as per the title of the music : nocturne - "of night scene" in French.

With my sound level meter mounted at my ear level at my sweet spot being 11.5 ft from the front panel of each of the L & R KEF 2-way front standspeakers, set at dB(C), max level & fast reading, the whole performance hardly measured over 75dB(C). It starts with pianississimo quiet notes at around 61dB(C) & fortississimo at round 83dB(C) lasting only half a second in the whole performance.

Yet I enjoy it bigtime playing back on my CD on my cheapie non-stereophile no-name DVD player/DAC. Sooo livelike & soo spatial abundant, particularly at the piano pedal resonant decay !!! Wow.

A good sound system should just be played at the right levels, not necesssarily "loud", to retrieve the music "kick, excitement or presence".

From RvB above review per my post caption, could it be the problem of the Paradigms or the rest matching equipment ???

Listening is believing

Jack L

ChrisS's picture

...everything about yourself.

That's nice.

Jack L's picture

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Why not? You "enjoy everything about" some sick dog here ??

Jack L

Indydan's picture

Aye Jack L. mon amour. Veux-tu faire du frottage fromage avec moi?

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Indydan's picture

Aye Jackie L, je t'envois un beau bizou!

Jack L's picture

je t'ai demande d'arreter d'aboyer !

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Jack L's picture

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My second thought re yr above comment winds down to the design issue of the Paradigms: the built-in ACTIVE cross-over network.

Most most, if not all, loudspeakers with powered woofers have included a built-in active cross-over network which splits the incoming music signals from the driving amp into LF, MF & HF to drive the dedicated amps to drive the woofers, MF & HF discretely.

Without the design schematic of the Paradigms under review, I can only assume logically the built-in X-over network also handles the M/F & H/F.

It is the design issue of the Paradigms active X-over network that somewhat 'screws' up the sound at SPL below 75dB, IMO, basing on my hands-on experience in interphasing my audio system to my 3 powered subwoofers (L, R, & L+R) for soo many years.

With my design/built interphasing, I allow my subs built-in adjustible Lo-pass network to handle only the sub-LF, tapped out from the main-stream music signal driving my main front 2-way passive bi-wired KEF front standspeakers.

It means the mid-L/F, MF & HF of the music signals drive direct my front louspeakers without going thru any active electronics! It works like a chime.

I can enjoy some excellent performance playback on my 24-bit mastered gold-plated reference CD track: "The Great Gate of Kiev" from "Pictures at an Exhibition" at any any levels from solo instruments below 50 dB(C) immediately followed by some 103 dB(C) bass drum beats as per my SPL measurement. NOoo sweat !!!!

Listening is believing

Jack L

growboxguy's picture

I think I will just keep my Persona 3f w/ my stereo pair of JL Dominion d110.

Science's picture

Interesting one https://sea-audio.com.ua/ru/pidlohova-akustyka/

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