Olsher: I disagree with that.
Sommerwerck: Now, bear with me a moment...
Atkinson: No, you can't get away with saying that...
Olsher: Bill, you can't say that...
Thomas J. Norton: Not here...
Sommerwerck: The point is that you want it both ways, because you said just a few minutes ago it wasn't science. Look, the point that I'm getting at is that every time I sit down to listen, I am aware that I know what component I…