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Technical questions regarding tubes and speakers
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Your knowledge of valves already far exceeds mine.
However, if do have a friend who is tube guru.
I have forwarded your question to him.
We will see what the reply form the mountain top will be.

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It wasnt the tubes fault. when old amps sit, the oil pools in the caps. that most likely was the problem. he should have brought it up to speed over 24 hourd using a variac to slowly reform the caps. he is luvky the cap didnt short out and cause more damage.
the tube probably did get too much or the wrong kind of voltage. he should check the bias if possible. new caps may be in his future-lots of hum is the telltale sign. the crazy driver was dealing with crazy voltage flows as the cap was reforming.

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I appreciate your efforts.

I've been doing a bit of reading on the potential issues that presented themselves. Well, like Alice In Wonderland, I ended up down a rabbit hole of related and unrelated things regarding recording and playback.

Back in the mid 90s, I had a Theta DAC that had a polarity switch that would allow you to reverse polarity on the fly. I tried it with several recordings and couldn't identify any changes between absolute polarity and reverse polarity. In hindsight, my system was pretty modest and my speakers were not optimally placed within my room. I've also almost always left my speaker grills in place out of caution, having kids and all, but also because I didn't notice any degradation in sound whether on or off.

This all relates to the particulars of this thread in that I've since preferred the grills off many speakers, though not all, and with the kids old enough to leave the speakers alone, I'm not worried about poking fingers and the like. Anyway, my understanding of absolute polarity being preserved in the digital domain is a crap shoot, with some claiming that a large majority of digital is intentionally polarity reversed and most digital sources are all over the map. I've also read that in the recording process, some parts of the music is recorded in reverse polarity while vocals, for example, are often times intentionally the opposite. This doesn't seem to be widely practiced with accoustic recordings as opposed to studio recordings. So, for example, the drums track could be presented in reverse polarity while the vocals preserve absolute polarity. If I'm understanding this correctly, and perhaps JA would make a few comments regarding his knowledge of recording, this would explain movement from the driver in reverse while maintaining a solid and centered vocal image. Obviously, this shouldn't be confused with your speakers being in or out of phase, which is easily apparent, but rather the presentation of the music (or at least some aspects of it) in reverse of what the microphone diaphram was doing when it was captured.

I'm still not sure whether or not I could A/B identify all tracks in absolute vs reversed polarity as I haven't made any attempts just yet. However, this would certainly explain why many songs exhibit certain desirable characteritics during playback while others seem to fall short. In particular, "Best Of" compilations are almost guaranteed to have a mix of absolute and polarity reversing songs on the disc due to their compilation nature over many studios and eras.

Fortunately, I have no bulging caps and the amp is singing beautifully. Though I didn't use a variac, I do use minimal bias when bringing an unused amp up over a few hours with 1/4 increases in bias until the final setting is reached over the last hour before putting any signals through it. More to ensure that the bias supply is stable than reforming the caps. The amps aren't that old.

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There is no standard for polarity so it's not as if anyone must follow a particular set of rules, although if a recording engineer were interested in achieving the best sound, with real bass and soundstage, you would think he would pay careful attention to polarity during the entire process. Maybe he did pay attention one day but not the next, thus we sometimes find tracks on the same recording vary according to polarity, perhaps we might even find instruments on the same track are opposite polarity, which I suppose could happen when overdubbing or microphone wiring mismanagement. Therefore, all things considered the odds are about 50% the LP or CD you have in your hands right now is out of polarity. But you're in luck since the odds are pretty high your system is also out of polarity so it all evens out. The XLO Test CD allows you to make sure the system is in the correct polarity then all you have to worry about are the recordings. The moral of the story is unless you have a polarity switch your odds are 50% of listening to the record or CD or whatever in correct polarity no matter how you slice it.

Timely tip: channelization is also an issue so it's always a good idea to double check all connections and make sure R goes to R and L goes to L everywhere.

Cheers,

Geoff Kait
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My pre-amp’s original owner,Rod, who was also my late dear friend & mentor, had all of his music (SeeDee’s & LP’s) marked with a symbol indicating his preferred position for the Phase selector. Rod also recorded his preference for the Bass, Mid, Treble, Contour & Loudness selectors for each title

I will admit to far less obsession with phase as I have found that I often can tell no difference between settings. When I do detect difference, I note the preference on my LP’s.

As for any other adjustments, I typically run the pre-amp at Zero Gain with all Tone & other 'coloration' in the 'Bypass' position. I find the simplest, shortest signal path will usually delver the best performance for my tastes.

Bill - on the Hill
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