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New MC Cartridge = Loud pops / Static Build-up

I've been an amateur vinyl and analog enthusiast for many years now, and am finally discovering this forum for help and to learn and share with others.

My set up:
Old Yamaha 65 watt / ch SS Stereo Receiver
Pro-Ject Audio DS2 Tube phono preamp
Pro-Ject Perspex Turntable
Hana SL moving coil low output Cartridge
Old Yamaha bookshelf speakers (soon to be Klipsch Forte iii)

My issue: I recently installed a new Hana SL MC low output cart in lieu of my Ortofon Bronze. Now, Any album I play results in aggressive / loud "crack" "pop" noises, sometimes like a machine gun 3-5 pops rapid fire in a row. Usually as soon as the stylus hits the record, intermittent and random when playing, and at the dead space at the end of the record. I've tweaked and adjusted the cart settings, loading, VTA, tracking force etc, with no resolution. static in my listening room has never been present or an issue. If it's static, it is not on the records or the platter, but rather building up at the stylus / cart itself somehow. I'm playing the same setup and the same records as I did with my bronze mm cart that never resulted in any cracks or pops. My DS2 has been adjusted accordingly for the MC cart. Cart is recommended at greater than 400 ohms. I've tried it at many settigns. I'm running a gain of 60 but have experimented with many levels.

Another strange thing, is if you get down close and lightly blow air at the stylus, it fires off like a loud popping machine gun as well.

Anyone have any ideas when could be going on with my new cartridge? Can a cart generate it's own static electricity? The tone arm has an internal ground wire to a grounding post at the rear of the turntable which is then grounded to the post on my DS2 preamp.

Thanks for any help!!

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Cartridge

It seems as if the cartridge is defective.

There should be a path for static to bleed off internally inherent in the cartridge, and that does not seem to be happening.

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Bumping this old thread,

Bumping this old thread, hoping vinyl_daddy checks the forum still... did you ever find a solution?

I have had this problem with 2 Hana SH carts now. The first one started with this exact problem after about 75h in. The distributor replaced it under warranty. The second has now developed the same issue after about 200h. It is infuriating.

Let us know if you've made any headway solving this.

Cheers

vinyl_daddy wrote:

I've been an amateur vinyl and analog enthusiast for many years now, and am finally discovering this forum for help and to learn and share with others.

My set up:
Old Yamaha 65 watt / ch SS Stereo Receiver
Pro-Ject Audio DS2 Tube phono preamp
Pro-Ject Perspex Turntable
Hana SL moving coil low output Cartridge
Old Yamaha bookshelf speakers (soon to be Klipsch Forte iii)

My issue: I recently installed a new Hana SL MC low output cart in lieu of my Ortofon Bronze. Now, Any album I play results in aggressive / loud "crack" "pop" noises, sometimes like a machine gun 3-5 pops rapid fire in a row. Usually as soon as the stylus hits the record, intermittent and random when playing, and at the dead space at the end of the record. I've tweaked and adjusted the cart settings, loading, VTA, tracking force etc, with no resolution. static in my listening room has never been present or an issue. If it's static, it is not on the records or the platter, but rather building up at the stylus / cart itself somehow. I'm playing the same setup and the same records as I did with my bronze mm cart that never resulted in any cracks or pops. My DS2 has been adjusted accordingly for the MC cart. Cart is recommended at greater than 400 ohms. I've tried it at many settigns. I'm running a gain of 60 but have experimented with many levels.

Another strange thing, is if you get down close and lightly blow air at the stylus, it fires off like a loud popping machine gun as well.

Anyone have any ideas when could be going on with my new cartridge? Can a cart generate it's own static electricity? The tone arm has an internal ground wire to a grounding post at the rear of the turntable which is then grounded to the post on my DS2 preamp.

Thanks for any help!!

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Static - Hana Cart

Hey radialmelt,

I've had a love / hate relationship with my Hana SL low output carts. Currently love, as the issue has disappeared.
My first Hana SL cart worked perfectly for 6 months of regular listening, not sure hours, and then the cracking - intense static popping showed up. This was on the same TT but differnt preamp, amp, and speakers from what I'm running it on now. I painstakingly tried everything and could never solve it. Then 6 months later it just worked again, no changes to system. I told myself it was just the time of year and the humidity in the air. Well, another 3 months went by and I lost all audio in my right channel. Tried everything to determine issue and repair and confirmed it had to be the cart. I sent it back to Needle Doctor and they ran tests and confirmed that the cart did in fact fail internally and sent me a new Hana SL replacement. This is the one I received in January 2019 that started the thread above.

The new replacement Hana SL was installed on my same TT, but now with a different Amp, preamp, and speakers from previous set up. It worked perfectly for a few weeks and then the same horrible crackling / static came back. Again, this is where my original thread comment began. I can't tell you how frustrating and unbearable this loud popping was. And, i dissected every component, connection, ground wire, cart wiring...you name it. I installed my old Ortofon Bronze and the popping went away. I got a humidity gage and humidifier to better regulate the room, and I even got an Okki Nokki and wet vac cleaned my records before playing. I changed receivers and speakers too, still a problem. Nothing solved the static issue. The cleaning helped minimize it, but it was still there.

And then, probably 12-14 months later, so within the last few months of current, all static, I mean all, is gone. I have no rational explanation for this aside from Gremlins. Since this issue started pretty early on with both carts, I'm hoping now that I have over a year of use that it has fixed itself.....and I'm not jinxing myself by writing this :)

Sorry I don't have a clear solution, and I hope with continued use, it goes away for you too. The Hana just sounds so beautiful and detailed when this issue is not present, so I'm happy that things are working as they should now.

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Thanks very much for the

Thanks very much for the detailed reply, very appreciated. I have to admit I was hoping you would say "do this!" and my problem would be fixed. It sounds like we're in exactly the same boat however. These violent static discharges are completely ruining my listening experience, even if they are as infrequent as once every 10 minutes. I'm sure you know what I mean.

I too have literally swapped out everything but the TT and arm, with no luck. I had 200 hours of joyful listening after replacing the first SH, and naively thought I was in the clear. But this problem has returned and dogged me for the last 50h or so of play time. Like yourself, I got a loan of an Ortofon 2M and once installed the discharges disappeared, only to return within the first 5 mins of putting the Hana back in place. So frustrating.

Anyway, thank you for your response. It's good to know I'm not alone in this. I hope for your sake the issue has resolved itself permanently.

Cheers!

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