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Thanks for the write up. It's nice to read your impression.

I'd love to hear the Maggie's. I've never considered them because I don't feel I have the room to set them up.

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Thought I would show a few pics and comments from our show report, not yet finished.

http://tuneland.techno-zone.net/t369-t-h-e-show-newport-2016

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Thanks! MG

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Thanks for the pics!

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maybe women are only into the music, not the gear. just guessing. wish I knew what goes on in womens heads. would've saved myself a lot of grief over my lifetime.

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Hi David

I've heard that comment a lot over the years from this side of the hobby, but MGA has always had a fair amount of women involved with us. For some reason the clients we deal with are more on the music lover side vs the component collecting or engineer side of things. I'm not sure many women care so much about specs and a wall full of electronics. What I've noticed is women are more (don't mean to generalize) into the content and delivery of that content as it fits into real life. If a soundstage is not convincing to them they loose interest. Women also like to be able to walk around and do other things when listening and if a system doesn't sound good out of the sweet spot it's more irritating to them than enjoyable.

Most of my girlfriends don't get into the marketing of High End Audio. They're more into does the music move them emotionally. But then again most of my music friends period are into music as a way of life.

a short and funny story

A while back a girlfriend started laughing at an old Bowie lyric "the girl on the phone wouldn't leave me alone". She said "isn't that the truth". Now this has become part of her slang when talking about her friends or calling me when she knows I'm in my zone.

If we take notice women are more musically driven than men (not all but most), which should beg the question "why indeed are there so few women in any one area of music vs in general"? My thought is women are a good measure for if the message is coming across.

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Also I'm pretty sure women have better hearing than us. And maybe their brain, being more subjective and impressionistic, "fills in the blanks" more than a male brain, so they're less critical of small imperfections in the playback because they don't "pay attention" to them, or they don't care about them.
Seems I read that somewhere. Someone said"audiophiles don't listen to music with their equipment,they listen to their equipment with music"

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That's the point Jana makes in her articles.

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One 'experience' I forgot to mention:

The only A/B comparison that I found in the entire show was of a speaker isolation system. A small device placed under the speaker. They had 2 pairs of bookshelf speakers: 1 pair on the isolators, the other not. All speakers were at the same height. Then they switched back and forth between speakers A & B on the amp. Obviously this is a very revealing test (which is why almost no-one does it), so you have to be gutsy and confident to show this to the public. I can say that there was definitely an improvement with the isolators. The sound was more open and airy. I was impressed that they did this test, and impressed with the results. Name of the company was isoacoustics.

Sure would be nice if other companies did this. For example, to compare speakers. The fact that they DON'T is telling.

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Hello Lardog,

>>> "so you have to be gutsy and confident to show this to the public." <<<

I can give you one quite relevant explanation as to why there are not more ‘before, after and back to before’ demonstrations at Hi Fi Shows and also, I might add, at Retailers showrooms.

Using a hypothetical example.

If Joe Bloggs (at great expense) is demonstrating his CD player at a Hi Fi Show, sharing a room with Bill Brown demonstrating his amplifier, sharing a room with Jack Smith demonstrating his loudspeakers.
Having demonstrated this equipment set up to a room full of potential customers, a ‘device’ is then introduced into the room and the music played again. The sound is now described as ‘more open and spacious, with greater height, depth and width, and with better separation of musical instruments. The majority of the people listening hear these improvements and Joe Bloggs, Bill Brown and Jack Smith are mightily pleased.

The device is then removed.

The majority of the listeners are now aware that the spaciousness, width, height and depth has gone, the instruments are no longer as separated and the sound is no longer excellent quality.
Joe Bloggs, Bill Brown and Jack Smith turn around to see the majority of the listeners now ‘cringing’ at the sound of Joe Bloggs’ CD player, of Bill Brown’s amplifier and of Jack Smith’s loudspeakers. The ‘cringe’ is the working memory shouting, kicking and screaming because it has been taken below the excellent standard it had just become accustomed to. There is now no way that Joe Bloggs, Bill Brown and Jack Smith will allow that demonstration to be repeated.

I therefore applaud such as Ted Denney (of Synergistic Research) who has been prepared to do such ‘before, after and back to before’ demonstrations at Hi Fi Shows.

I will move away from the hypothetical now and recount a real life situation. As I have said before. My hypothetical examples are usually very, very close to the truth.

I remember Ivor Tiefenbrum, at a Hi Fi show in the UK, carrying out a ‘before, after and back to before’ demonstration of something which he had discovered could have an adverse effect on the sound – only to turn around and see a room full of audio journalists and audio retailers ‘cringing’ at the sound of his Linn Turntable, Linn p/u arm, Linn cartridge, Naim amplifier and Linn loudspeakers being demonstrated !!

I don’t think he ever again gave that particular demonstration !!!!!

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May Belt,
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lardog wrote:

One 'experience' I forgot to mention:

The only A/B comparison that I found in the entire show was of a speaker isolation system. A small device placed under the speaker. They had 2 pairs of bookshelf speakers: 1 pair on the isolators, the other not. All speakers were at the same height. Then they switched back and forth between speakers A & B on the amp. Obviously this is a very revealing test (which is why almost no-one does it), so you have to be gutsy and confident to show this to the public. I can say that there was definitely an improvement with the isolators. The sound was more open and airy. I was impressed that they did this test, and impressed with the results. Name of the company was isoacoustics.

Sure would be nice if other companies did this. For example, to compare speakers. The fact that they DON'T is telling.

I always found AB demos to be a little problematic since unfortunately many manufacturers prefer to show up at the shows with brand new components and speakers that just barely begin to sound good or even acceptable about Day 3 as everyone is starting to pack up and go home. this coupled with too many people packed in the room, crappy AC power at the venue, horrendous footfall vibration and the time it takes sometimes to actually do the AB have definitely soured me on the whole AB experience at shows, speaking as a tweak manufacturer, you know, who kind of relies on AB demos at the shows. Oh, well, c'est la vie.

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