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I would love that SSP800 but I am not in a place where I can afford it. I literally just moved (still unpacking) and need to buy new furniture, etc... so a new pre/pro is down the list of things I need. Additionally, this new place lacks a basement so I won't have room for the dedicated theater I would like and am going to stick to 2 channel for the foreseeable future.
I really do appreciate you giving me first chance at this unit. It is very kind of you and if I ever have equipment you are interested in I will gladly extend the same offer.
I did trade the Raidho's for a PS Audio Directstream DAC with Bridge II and went back to my Revel Performa3 M105s. The sound is spectacular and is one of the few units I could afford that is a clear step up from the Marantz unit I had. It is really special. Unless you can get enough space behind the Raidho's and enought distance between them, they are not a significant step up from the Kefs or Revels. The Raidho sound stage just sort of falls apart and they are just a very good speaker that doesn't really stand out from the pack.
My plan now is to reevaluate speakers and I am looking at either getting a smallish floor stander or a better stand mount which might happen in April. I am looking forward to the new Revel Performa3 line that is coming out which is going to have the beryllium tweeter that is in the Ultimas and a new ceramic driver. The other option would be the PSB Imagine T2 which is a surprisingly good sounding speaker for the money. Bet even that is TBD based on how much furniture is goig to cost me.
Thank you for the offer. very much appreciated. You made the right choice by getting the PS Audio DirectStream DAC with Bridge ll. It's a stellar performing digital frond end and received rave reviews. Awesome choice.
The new Revel Performa3 line with a beryllium tweeter would sound very good. What's your budget on a new pair of speakers? The new B&W 805 D3 bookshelf are pretty awesome. Or if you are looking for a compact floorstanders I would give a listen to Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Baby Grand. I loved them. Again it's personal preference.
Or some Sonus Faber Olympica line bookshelf would be worth to look at. I don't know if you like their sound profile.
The 805 D3s were one of the very first speakers I listened to and the detail is wonderful but the sound stage was not what I was looking for. One issue may have been the PrimaLuna amp I listened to driving them which wasn't quite up to the task. Might be different with a more power SS amp.
Budget is TBD. Right now my hunch is $4-$6Kish. I know the new Revel's stand mounts are supposed to top out at $4K so they are very interesting.
Vienna Acoustics are interesting but I loathe the dealer I spoke with about them. It's like talking to Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons but about audio I will see if I can find a different dealer. Sonus Faber is interesting. They are a good friends favorite speaker.
Recently I started liking the Sonus Faber Homagpage and Lilium. I had some lieten to them recently at a dealer driven by Audio Research Reference series gears. Even the Olympica line are really good to my taste.
In regards to the B&W 805 D3, I would pair them with some competent SS amp and give a listen again. When I heard them last year they were paired with a Classe Sigma 2200i stereo integrated amp and imo they sounded fabulous together. They threw a 3D-like soundstage, were wide well extended and had and has satisfying depths to it with excellent imaging. For some reasons I felt like B&W aren't compatible with tube gears.
I do like the Vienna. Unlike the B&W, some Vienna lines (not all Viennas) and some Sonus Faber series have laid back presentations. Just my 2 cents.
Wish you luck and let us know what you end up getting eventually.
Set up my system in the new place last night only to discover I need a longer cable to attach and properly place the subwoofer. Just ordered it but also need to add a rug and a few other pieces of furniture before I can do any critical listening / evaluation of the sound profile.
Will keep you posted. I am going to be living in this place for a few years hopefully so tailoring something to this room is very reasonable.
Keep me posted. In anticipation of getting my new pre pro for my dedicated theater room I'm still thinking to sell my B&W 804 D3 and 805 D3 that I'm currently using for my surround speakers. I might be looking at B&W in-wall or on-wall speakers for my surrounds and I will have major contruction works ahead of me that I need to accomplish in my theater room in order to accommodate for more channels speakers like height ceiling speakers for Atmos speakers, which will mostly be B&W also. I will also need additional power amps to power those additional Atmos speakers etc. I will probably get more Classe multi-channel amps for those or possibly Datasat multi-channel amps if I got with a Datasat pre pro or Trinnov multi-channel amps if I go with a Trinnov pre pro. I'm considering to upgrade to either Datasat or Trinnov processor and these processors decode the latest surround sound formats and codecs eg Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, Aura-3D etc.
Anyways, if I decide to sell my B&W 804 D3 and 805 D3, I can sell the 805 D3 to you for around $3k to $3500 if you are interested. They were purchased less than 2 yrs ago. Or unless if you want the 804 D3 compact floorstanders. I can sell them to you for $5k or $4500 if you're interested. The 804 D3 retails for $9k/pair when purchased new.
I would definitely be interested in one or the other. If the time comes I would need to discuss with my new wife as long as it is after March 15 I think that will be doable.
Did a little listening last night and as it stands my new room is not overdamped the way the last one was and I may need to get a pair of Mullards instead of the Ciftes. Need the final room to come together but the top end sparkle the Ciftes delivered in the old room sounds bright in this new space.
I gotta say that I love the fact that I can roll a couple of tubes to tweak my sound profile. I would definitely need them with B&Ws. O
Yes, it will be definitely way after March 15. There's othing thing that I need to work on first right now. I'm in the middle of upgrading my analog rigs. I'm moving my Linn LP12 to my master bedroom setup and I will most likely be purchasing the Kronos Pro turntable for my main 2ch setup in my main dedicated listening room. I'm currently in San Diego to check out the Kronos and have a listen. I am going to the Kronos dealer today to demo them. I'm going to pair the Kronos Pro with an Audio Research Reference 10 phonostage preamp. I will have to decide what tonearm and cartridge to go with it when I'm at the store later today.
After I'm through with upgrading and setting up my new turntable etc then I will have to start working on majpr remodeling and renovation of my dedicated home theater room. If I decide to sell my B&W 804 D3 & 805 D3 and get those in-wall or on-wall speakers for my surrounds I will definitely keep you posted in March.
The Mullards might help taming it down a notch. Just experiment with different things too. Have fun with that.
All the B&W 805 D3 & 804 D3 are piano gloss color and in mint like new conditions and are kept in a non-smoking no pet high end climate controlled theater room environment. I have all the original accessories and boxes / packagings. I can give you the matching speaker stands for the 805 D3.
They have only been used as surround speakers and have been driven by a Classe CA-5300 five-channel power amp, cause I'm using a pair of Classe CAM-600 monoblock amps to drive my front speakers (B&W 800 D3) and a single Classe CAM-300 monoblock amp to drive the center speaker.