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Trying to learn to love Lowthers.

Hola,

I've never understood Lowther enthusiasts.

In the past, Lowther drivers have alsways sounded "live" in the way that perhaps a vocalist was being dragged against his will through the driver and out into the listening room.

Then, on a lark, I had a chance to pick up a pair of modified Lowther speakers made by that company in Stephen's blog.

Maybe it's the free air resonance loading, or the modification of the driver, but I actually like these babies.

Bass is MIA, but I got them pur't near the rear wall, so I'm hearing them down to about 120HZ.

90HZ is discernable, but easily noted as been down several dB at that frequency.

Right now I'm driving them with my Krell AV300i, and they are rather sweet!

Good words for the sound:

Very fast and immediate.

Quite detailed, even up into the treble frequencies.

Lots of detail. A surprising amount!

The horns load the room well, so they have adequate small scale dynamics - vocals, acoustic instruments...but not massed instruments or rock and roll levels. Good, at the level of an actual vocalist in the room loud. Same for sax.

They seem more dynamic because of their speed, but focusing on drums - they obviously "shrink" the impact of the drum kit.

They image in a theater screen kind of way. Not pinpoint imaging, but a nice enveloping wash that is sometimes more "accurate" sounding than the pinpoint imaging of the electrostats they replaced.

They have a good, friendly, lively, live feel.

Vocals are so immediate, it gave my wife gooseflesh!

I said, "Hey baby, maybe it's me."

She said, "No, it's the speakers."

The "Wife Acceptance Factor" is beyond 100% favorable.

She likes to play them while she's in the kitchen (off to stage right) and sing along.

She likes them better than the Klipsch La Scallas that were there, and the Acoustat 2+2's that followed.

There was also a spell with some NFS modded A/D/S 300C's mated with Genesis subwoofers, but the 300C's were just way too reticent, even with the Krell trying to prod them along.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and venture to say that the midrange is better than most Quads I've heard. It's really something!

On the downside, there's the bass. Definitely in need of supplemental assistance.

I'll shut up about any other complaint, 'cause, as you've probably experienced, getting the last octave into a system often fleshes out parts of the sound that you think are higher frequency flaws, but are actually due to the lack of bass and its fundamentals.

Stephen wanted pics...by coincidence, he blogged about them the day after I put them together!

They also sound very room-independent. Making for a cleaner aesthetic experience in a room that is our day to day family and company casually hanging out room.

So far, happy guy!

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Re: Trying to learn to love Lowthers.

Those speakers remind me of parabolic mikes for spying.

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NICE!!!!!!!!!! Good size room for some REAL speakers....Cool. I'm sure they where the breakthrough of teh week, when they where introduced. No one has yet developed a single driver that'll do it all, no one. That thing would sound better if it had some slick LEDS lighting it up from the edges and stuff.

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Didn't George Jetson have a pair of those?

Really cool...in a wierd sort of way!

RG

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Love the Lowthers but for mids, Ill stick with the Quad 57's.

http://fullrangedriver.com/

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Are these considered the ultimate in transparency? Literaly looking past the speaker right into the music? Oh, nope that's the WALL!!!!! Never mind.

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Re: Trying to learn to love Lowthers.

The Ferguson Hill website shows a pair of their orb-like subwoofers for over $5000 with amplifier:
http://www.fergusonhill.co.uk/frames/frameset.htm
Buddha, what are your plans for bass extension? (Finances permitted?)

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The Ferguson Hill website shows a pair of their orb-like subwoofers for over $5000 with amplifier:
http://www.fergusonhill.co.uk/frames/frameset.htm
Buddha, what are your plans for bass extension? (Finances permitted?)

Either a Bose Wave Radio, or I heard that Elite Audio gear can be had at a hefty discount from retail.

Maybe I'll cruise around looking for the White Van store.

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Re: Trying to learn to love Lowthers.

Thanks for the wonderful post, Buddha. Great pictures, too. The speakers are striking, and - opposite to what I initially thought - they don't at all interfere with the overall look and feel of the space. They look terrific.

I'm happy to hear you're enjoying them. I hope the love continues to grow.

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Great pictures Buddha! If you're starting to think about subs to match up that are quick and articulate for matching up with a horn I'd put REL on the list. I have heard them match up well with lots of quick speakers including Magnepans and Martin-Logans. They are subs for audiophiles that hate subs.

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So, time for an update.

Since the Ferguson Hills were put in place, they have been solidly in the starting line up.

We took them to T.H.E. Show and they could really fill a hotel room with tasty sound, but that's not the kicker.

I've been doing some work commuting, and will be setting up a part time residence in California, so I told the wife that since a new place will need a rig or two for tunes, I was planning on installing the Ferguson Hills there.

Katy said, "No. They stay where they are."

She won't let them rotate out of their place in her heart. They are her favorite speaker.

She's heard scads of speakers, and been dragged to Hi Fi shows and the homes of fellow audio nuts, and she says the FH's are what she wants her music playing through.

I told her I'd let y'all know what she said, and she said, "Fine. Katy's seal of approval."

So, poor me (..... .....) now I gotta find a new part time rig. On that note, I took a survey of my tastes and find that I like planar/open baffle speakers (three out four home rigs) - with a propensity for full range, crossover-less designs (two out of four.)

So, what next?

Anyway, and in all seriousness, if you ever get a chance to hang and listen to a pair of the Ferguson Hills, take it - but make sure the amps are right, 'cause they are revealing!

Anybody familiar with Cain & Cain?

If'n I hit the Lotto tonight, it's DeVore Silverbacks with some Dehavilland or Shindo electronics! Mmmmmmmmmmm.

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Katy said, "No. They stay where they are."

That's awesome. When Kelli walked into the living room that day and went straight to the speakers and asked, "Which ones are these?" I knew I was going to buy the PSB Alpha B1s.


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So, poor me (..... .....) now I gotta find a new part time rig.

Dude, that is a problem. My suggestion is to pick up the new Bodies of Water album, A Certain Feeling, and pick the speaker that works best with it.

The Cain & Cains might be right up your alley. But here's to hoping you win the lottery tonight!

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Did you get the crossover fixed on those Lowthers yet?

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Did you get the crossover fixed on those Lowthers yet?

Yes, they are now biamped.

What I did was...

Well, I wanted a single ended (or less) amplifier for them...

So, I got a 30 watt per channel differential amplifier - in push/pull configuration, and plugged it into a socket with the round thing going into the socket on the bottom.

Then, I got a 27 watt per channel differential amp - push/pull again, and plugged it into a socket with the round grounding plug on top...thereby creating an "opposite amp" configuration from the first amp.

What I ended up with was the two round parts cancelling out and the electricity going to one amp was 180 degrees out of phase with the other amp - so, the push/pull configuration of one amp cancelled out the pull/push configuration of the other amp...and I ended up with better than single ended! I got a "no ended" or "zero ended" amp that gives me three watts per channel.

Gotta be careful if you try this at home, though, 'cause if you get the 30 watter and the 27 watter reversed, you end up with a negative three watts and all the music gets sent out the back of the driver instead of the front.

So, from the amps, the summed three watt power signal goes to the active crossover, and then on to the main Lowther driver, with a second set of parallel wires going to the whizzer cone.

As soon as I can get down to Pettycoat Junction Audio, I'm gonna pick up a new canooter valve and go with "try-amping."

Cheers, man!

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