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MUDSHARK
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Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

Question for you sub guru's

I have a 12 by 14 den that is half used as a working office and half as my relaxing room (interpreted as music and reading). Question: Can a sub be placed behind one of the speakers quite close to the wall. If it measured no more than 12 by 16 I could just manage it. The desk, file cabinet,bookshelves, a 30 inch T.V , entertainment center, and tw9o chairs with atable lamp limit my options.

Second, is a small sub worth it? Music reproduction is the only consideration. My speakers are Infinity Kappa Floor standers rated to 50Hz. Some have stated that small subs do little to enhance the music and largely create only distortion.

Opinions?

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Re: Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

SUBS....wouldn't wish one on anybody. That said, I can't live without one. You think speaker placement/setup is tricky, try getting a sub right. I'm not trying to discourage you but given the limitations of placement locations and sub size I would have concerns regarding your success rate. You will have to get lucky if that corner turns out to be the best location for the sub, sometimes they are. Additionally, the better subs tend to be the larger subs, like in really large cabinets. If you plan to use a sub equalizer along with some room analysis software (I consider this mandatory) your results will dramatically improve and possibly insure that corner location you have your eye on works out. Your room is of medium size so a good quality 10 or 12 inch single driver model should do well. Paradigm and PSB make inexpensive "musical" models for as little as $500.00 and up, just to name a few. In the end, if your willing to invest in quality components and ancillary equipment for proper setup, the payoff is most exhilarating. If not, I suggest you leave it alone because boom boom boom equals distortion and bad integration. Best of luck.

RG

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Re: Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

I haven't looked for a while, but from what I heard when I was in the market, the M&K 8" push pull sub was a real hum dinger for music. Fast, articulate, and the right size for your room. Might wanna check it out.

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Re: Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

I feel that a subwoofer properly added to a system can make a huge improvement and I encourage you to pursue it. The trick is integrating the sub with the existing system. I'd advise reading Ken Kreisel's comments on bass management here: http://www.mkprofessional.com/bass_mgmt.htm

M&K has been making excellent subwoofers for many years and offer some reasonable values through their "Direct" web site. As Ken suggests, using a bass management controller (either one of theirs or the Outlaw) is essential for achieving good integration.

I bought the little K8 subwoofer and BMC bass management controller (from their direct site) for use in my office with their CR-2401 main speakers and have been very pleased with the results.

Good luck,
Bob

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Re: Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

Are bass management controllers desirable for a 2.1 system. Has anyone placed a sub directly behind one of the main floorstanders with good results. My options are somewhat limited with most wall space covered already.

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Re: Sub Placement in a 12 by 14 den

A downfiring type would probably be better suited for that application and would/could work just fine. All the bass management you need for a 2 channel system comes built-in to the sub, through various types of hook up options and crossover settings.

RG

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