Uh, are you reading that shit?

There are two easy answers other than having Stephen play ref all the time. Put anyone's user name that is exceedingly annoying to you on "Hide" in your preferences, and then like Lamont said: why even bother reading anything from that group of paranoid schizos anyway? They mostly seem to like dry-humping a few narrow threads anyway. When they wander into others maybe it's time to just brand the Trolls as they are, and drop any thread they are seen to high-jack.

I'd name a few others who cannot seem to write less than 1500 words per post and have a long history of aggressive forum paranoia, but that's be mean...

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I don't know about anyone else, but I get tired of seeing the same confrontational/libelous garbage volleyed about. Sammett and Frog take any and every opportunity (irregardless of thread subject matter) to recycle the same tired, axe-grinding, personal grudge nonsense...it was past its shelf life long ago..now it is just annoying.
I know Ethan has stopped posting here because of it..and now something needs to be done about Frog and Sammet. A quick perusal of Sammett's posts will show that 7 of his last 10 posts have referenced this "graph faking" nonsense and/or Ethan Winer. That takes his actions beyond the realm of "internet grudge" and into the realm of the obsessive.

I hope the moderators will do something about it. The forum will be much better when they do.

That is interesting NCdrawal:

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this "graph faking" nonsense and/or Ethan Winer

Nonsense? Kinda interesting that you had no problem with Ted being attacked, you attacking Ted as well as us, even though you gents were notified it was against the forum rules and I asked to let the string die out, but you keep it going.

Now you raise the subject yet again, loudly attacking me and complaining because your friend got exposed by his own words . Kinda hypocritical isn't it. And not just me, but two other outside forums have strings concerning falsification of data. So is it really just this string you are angry about. Sounds like you are on a PR campaign.

Let's check NCdrawal for truthfulness. He says 7 of 10 posts I.... Ok.

1) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77961

My first reply to NC who posted this:

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"pretty much any thread that has
1.) frog
2.) sas
is going to turn to shit and may as well be closed."

Quite inflamatory.

2) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77918

I demonstrated, after NC posted this ridiculous comment.

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it was me who found the paper,(from Kunchur) made contact with Kunchur initially, Sammett, though you enjoy taking credit, and thats cool... at any rate,

Interesting since this is what I stated on:

http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77918

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Dr. Kunchur emailed me, upon request, the rigours of his 5 year study through publishing.

Quite different than what NC stated. I made no mention whatsoever of being first or taking credit for contacting Dr. Kunchur.

Then I provided a connection between NC and J_J to Ethan, to demonstrate the consistent misleading comments these gents post. Afterall, we just saw NC mislead a simple comment I made.

3)http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=TheEntryLevel&Number=77916&Searchpage=1&Main=77738&Words=+sasaudio&topic=&Search=true#Post77916
A post above Number 2, and no reference

4) Earlier, same string and no mention of Ethan.

5) Earlier, same string and no mention.

6) Earlier, same string and no mention.

7) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77731

Bottom of page, nothing mentioned.

8) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77729
J_J's behaviour

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It is now far, far past the time to close this thread. All we have here is people enabling the Tadpole and the Steve to continue their griefing.

I responded to J_Js comments.

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Continuing your false vindictive behaviour as usual J_J. Not surprising since you and Ethan are "in bed together". How honest, ethical, and scientific of you.

And how honest, scientific and ethical of you to encourage X, after he has confessed to doctoring data/graphs for years, to continue in such behaviour.

Relaying that these gents have worked together.

9) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77658

Responding to NCs request for this.

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Nice sockpuppet/troll, MJF/Sammet/etc

(Roquefort).

Sammet. I would like to know, and by that, I mean, id like you to provide a link where Ethan admitted defrauding someone?

I respond

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It has already been posted, with link, two or three times earlier, which you saw, including the 7 other forums he posted the falsified data/graphs.

So why keep bringing it up.

10) http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...=true#Post77644

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toad, you are a damned fool. thats the reason I haven't responded to you..or Sammet. I am not a shill, not on Ethan's payroll...as ive stated, more than once, I don't own any of his products. My spaces were outfitted by a LEGITIMATE realtraps competitor--- GIK Acoustics.

So I replied to NCs comments once again asking why he continues to bring up the subject.

By the way, I posted this

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I would be glad to buy ethan a cup of coffee or dinner if we ever met. He just has to tweek himself to considering others and how he impacts them.

I posted this directly to you concerning Ethan, on page 46 of 56 pages (Stephen closed the string.)
http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...art=46&vc=1

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As I suggested a couple/few pages ago, why not let this string die instead of continuing to keep it alive.

Page 45 I stated

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You could have let this thread die as I suggested a page or so ago and saved embarrassment.

Page 44, replying to Ethan I stated

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Too bad NCdrawal brought up your name or this thread could have died out.

So I recommended letting the string die more than once, but NCdrawal keeps it going, so he only has himself to blame.

You guys taking this pussy shit back to the original forum. We're trying to get free drinks here.

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You guys taking this pussy shit back to the original forum. We're trying to get free drinks here.

What kind of beer you want Lamont, it is on me.

It takes two to tango, as they say.

And quite frankly, I think you're just pussy-hurt after having waded into that morass and getting attacked by a frog. So you're now running around calling for his bannination.

I seem to recall either JA or SM stating that if you call for the ban-stick on someone, you get banned as well. Is the ignore function so difficult to riddle out that you're willing to fall on your sword for an amphibian?

Peyton Place, eat your ever lovin' heart out.

No, but we have you to make scream like a pig. Wheee! Wheee! Whee!

I think ncdrawl has made his point, and I agree with it: The passionate debates here on the forum between Michigan J. Frog, SAS Audio, and Ethan Winer have been tedious and unproductive.

In the future, I hope the three of them (and all of us here) can find a way to discuss audio, music, life, and whatever else, without resorting to name-calling and, for lack of better term, boring-ass bullshit. And, as dbowker suggested, if you must, it's easy to use the forum's "Ignore" feature.

I'm closing this thread now. Thanks.