Your comment from the Room Acoustics section, Stephen.
This thread has run its course, so it's time to lock it. I am going to please do so now.
If you'd like to open a new thread on this or a similar topic, please do so.
Stephen. It would appear that yet another audio subject causing controversy has hit the "locked" button. Is it at all possible for ANY subject which causes controversy to NOT be "locked" ??????? Can anyone think of any guidelines - even extreme guidelines - which could be considered (even something as extreme as agreeing to give a pint of blood every time a negative contribution is 'posted') (smiley face) if THAT suggestion would preserve the essence and continuation of a meaningful discussion ??
I am re-visiting two different approaches to controversial subjects in audio. The different approaches give some sort of background glimpse as to how different people 'handle' a particular subject, how they 'handle' what might be going on.
I will take you back, Stephen, to the controversy regarding applying a demagnetiser to LPs and CDs and to the talk you attended (with other Stereophile members) at the Montreal Show in 2009.
John's response to the subject of applying a demagnetiser to LPs etc was :-
"I believe that I understand most of what (technically) goes on in audio - and then something happens which completely blows my mind. I wasn't expecting a difference. It just doesn't fit my world view. But I know that if I tell someone out of our community they will........!!!!! "
Compared with John's comment, your comment regarding your experience with the SAME 'technique' was :-
"It doesn't scare me."
One (you) isn't 'scared', the other (John) finds that the experience 'completely blows his mind' !!
I am wondering if you SHOULD be 'scared', Stephen - meaning should be WORRIED, SHOULD be concerned !! Because, as a significant member of the audio community, you SHOULD find it worrying when there are 'things' changing the sound which, by the conventional understanding, should not be - but they ARE !! So, the world of audio has to (somehow) deal with what is happening !! Not, to casually say "It doesn't scare me." (i.e it doesn't 'faze' ME, Stephen) when others with the years and wealth of experience in audio say "I wasn't expecting a difference, it doesn't fit my world view, but it completely blew my mind." !!
A good and succinct comment was made by Charles Hansen (Manufacturer) General Asylum 16/01/10
"Every time that I have decided a priori that something can't *possibly* have any effect, I have always been proven wrong by listening tests at a later date. So I end up deliberately not listening to some things because I'm not sure if I want to know the answer...
I wonder just how many more people "end up deliberately not listening to some things because they are not sure if they really want to know the answer, if they really want their beliefs challenged ? "
SOMEHOW, we have to find out what is 'going on' - which usually means some form of controversy !! To repeat the obvious again - if ALL was known, there would be no controversy !!
So, how do we get an active, ongoing, controversial discussion without it degenerating to such an extent it has to be "locked" ?