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Can anyone explain this stuff?
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Looks to be a contact enhancer, DUP. Why do you need a list of ingredients? Are you planning to eat some of this stuff?

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I took a look just in case, my TV doesn't have an ingredients list either. The bastards!

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Dup-

Apparently you've tired of making fun of the wives of forum member. So now you have a hard on for Jonathan Scull? What's wrong with marketing companies. Every industry has marketing companies, so why should high-end be any different. Glad to see you've lost another star. It gives me great faith in humanity.

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It's finger nail polish, so why do you care about the ingredients? Unless of course you're polishing your nails.

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Because most products have ingredients listed on it's packaging. You know normal products, not stuff with mystical properties. Without knowing what's in it, how do you compare it's active ingreients to other similar products? you know when you buy over teh counter sinus stuff you can read the mg of the anti histimine, pain releiver etc. some vary drastically....When I buy contact cleaner, it has a list of ingredients, matter o' fact, technically without such lists or MSDS many pplaces can and will REFUSE shipment...But then that's in teh world of reality, not audio magic stuff. And it would be nice to know what I am getting for my money...but then being audio, just buy it and let your WALLET decide or ears? If you don't want to know what you are buying, fine, I like to know. Many times different packaging, same product ingredients, can't tell with this, nothing on teh website either I can find, and to think I was goona get me some Nano....but i can't I don't know what it is.

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Actually the TV does have labels of what a lot of stuff is, imprinted in the plastic is what kind of plastic for RECYCLING, and even new sets have more lables. And with the ROhS inforce, you better have labels, otherwise it ain't being shipped to Europe, or Aisa soon.

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AND if it has VOC, it better list % etc, can't sell this stuff in Calif and some other states with RULES on VOC...but then, again, being audio stuff, nothing applys, let the ears decide right.

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Hello DUP! Once again, I have to thank you for drawing attention to one of Furutech's fine products, much appreciated.

Nano Fluid functions like many contact enhancers. The molecules of the fluid are small enough that they penetrate and fill the tiny pinholes left over from the plating process.

As you must know, being an informed audiophile, the electrical plating process causes a stream of tiny bubbles to form. When the plating metal hardens, these tiny pin pricks solidify and remain as small gaps in the metal.

Nano Fluid fills them in and contact is improved. Simple, I know you'll agree.

Thanks again, DUP.
Regards,
Jonathan

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Though it is somewhat divergent from the focus of this thread I'd like to recommend an approach to reading through some threads which has proved quite enjoyable for me. Maybe others could enjoy it too. I've set my preferences to ignore the content DUP's posts but reading the replies turns out to be good for a laugh more often than not.

Mr. Scull's response, in this case was first rate and made reading of the initial complaint completely unnecessary.

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I'm with you on that ignore thing. I've wasted enough words on someone who thinks he knows everything.

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... I'd like to recommend an approach to reading through some threads which has proved quite enjoyable for me. ... I've set my preferences to ignore the content DUP's posts but reading the replies turns out to be good for a laugh more often than not.

Not a bad idea! But of course, I remain available to all and sundry with, ah, intelligent questions on the topic at hand.

Regards,
Jonathan

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Thanks, DUP, I'll recheck for the labels. My doctor has put me on a strict low-polycarbonate diet.

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I don't see an ingredients list or MSDS paper. http://www.scullcommunications.com/pressresources/furutech/furutech_nano_fluid.jpg

DUP, are you sure you're not really Sascha Baron Cohen?

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What sort of "loss" is incured with these tiny pinholes? What improves that is audible or necessary when this fluid is applied. You gonna tell me, thee gaps at teh molecure level are audible? How long does this "tretment" last? do you have SEM or TEM pictures of before and after? What happens after say one year, do the imperfections in teh plating reappear? What effects does the enviorment have on teh treatment. Is there an MSDS sheet available, listing the known hazzards and precautions with the chemicals in this stuff. Does is contain any VOC's, that possible violtae EPA regs? Please let me know, I was gonna get a demag and some nano, but without information, I feel I am buying too many unkowns. What is the list price for nano fluid? Please post an MSDS sheet on line. Most industry supply companys I deal with are required to have MSDS for stuff they sell. As bizzare as it seems, even a batch of Elmers Glue came with MSDS.

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Have you ever heard of MSDS paperwork? Do you deal at all with regulated chemicals used in industry? Why is audio use chemicals any different than otehr chemcials that need labeling and lists of hazzards involed in it's use? Oh, it's audio, nothing else matters, let the ears decide, right?

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Lotsa audio equipment is required to meet RoHS requirments to sell in Europe, proper lableing of materials used in building the stuff, type of plastics etc. Even the world of audio nonsense gets brought into reality with RULES. Pertaining to electrical safefty and enviormental regs. Unless of course, it's a magic tweak, that defys logic or sensibility. Remeber that tragedy in Rhode Island, where they had improper soundproof material all over the place....what a disaster!! Legit makers of acoustic control materials are made to meet fire, enviormental regs. It matters.

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