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Bi-wiring

So I just received my Jolida 50x2 hybrid amp and have Diamond 10.2's on the way. This is my first stereo I have spent more than $100 on so I m hoping it will be worth it. I know this is a very low budget build compared to most systems on the site so I am wondering how much should I invest in speaker wires? No sense in spending $800 on wires for a $900 speaker and amp package, right? I recentley read a article about bi-wiring using 6 twisted Cat 5 cables in a DIY speaker wire website, could this be an option or am I better off just spending $200 on a set of cables.
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Mike

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If your Jolida's speaker binding posts can take bananas the
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SPEAKER WIRE

For those speakers, I would use Monoprice #2791 speaker cable, which is pure copper stranded 14 gauge wire. This will give you a flawless result for any lengh of cable up to 30 feet. It costs $26 for 100 feet.

There is no reason to bi-wire those speakers.

I prefer terminating the wires with Audioquest gold-plated spade lugs soldered on to minimize any possibility of corrosion. Use heat-shrink tubing to cover the shank of the lug to avoid any possibility of a short.

For longer than 30 feet, use the similar 12 gauge speaker cable they sell.

I use #10 Belden wire, but that is for a 250-watt amplifier and very low-impedance speakers.

If you do not want to do your own soldering etc. and want pre-terminated cables that are ready to go, Audio Advisor sells the Audioquest Type 4 cables all ready to go with lugs or plugs or whatever you like at fairly reasonable prices (a completed 8-foot pair of cables is around $200).

 

 

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So I just received my Jolida 50x2 hybrid amp and have Diamond 10.2's on the way. This is my first stereo I have spent more than $100 on so I m hoping it will be worth it. I know this is a very low budget build compared to most systems on the site so I am wondering how much should I invest in speaker wires? No sense in spending $800 on wires for a $900 speaker and amp package, right? I recentley read a article about bi-wiring using 6 twisted Cat 5 cables in a DIY speaker wire website, could this be an option or am I better off just spending $200 on a set of cables. Thanks Mike

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Speaker Wire

Thanks for the quick reply. Both options seem very affordable and practical. What is the point of the bi-wire terminals on the speakers, and why is it not worth wiring them that way?

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Biwire=buy wire

Biwiring offers little if any audible difference compared to appropriate gauge single wire in most applications.

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BI-WIRING

Richard Vandersteen has been researching and designing speakers for over 30 years, and he makes some very fine speakers.

He is adamant about the benefits of bi-wiring HIS SPEAKERS, especially when using a relatively high-power amplifier. Other experts also claim benefits, but mainly with very large speakers driven by very large amplifiers. I think those situations may be where there is a possible benefit.

I have my Vandersteen 3A speakers bi-wired, with #10 wire pairs to each section, per the master. I drive them with a very large amplifier.

I very much doubt if any of the benefits he describes would apply to lower-powered two-way speakers like yours. The peak current in the bass driver is just not large enough for bi-wiring to make a difference IMO.

My Gallo CL-3 speakers do not even have the capability to be bi-wired, and they are much larger than yours.

I think they provided that capability just in case someone is really hot to do it. I would say that the extra expense will not produce any benefit in youe case.

P.S.- I have a set of Audioquest Indigo speaker cables advertised at a very attractive price in the AVS FORUM classified ads section. That could save you some money on some very nice cables; check out the ad.

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BIWIRING...Maybe?

Depends on the wires and the speakers.  If the cables have true dedicated networks for High and low frequencies and the speakers have a true  internal biwire configuration, then yes.  If the wires are just wires, then no and if the speaker is not a true biwire configuration, then absolutely not.  Check with the manufacturer and cable supplier for their recommendations as well.

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Check out AntiCables for

Check out AntiCables for affordable solid core cables that sound good. If you choose not to bi-wire I would buy better quality jumpers between the low and high frequency terminals. I have found the poor quality jumpers that come with many speakers is the best reason to bi-wire.

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Another question

So you guys all seem to really know what your talking and I had another question. As I mentioned above I bought the Jolida hybrid 50x2 at 8 ohms, it does not have a set of 4 ohm terminals. I also purchased the Wharfedale 10.2 bookshelf speaker which is a 6 ohm speaker. The speakers have not shipped yet and I am wondering if I should cancel the order because they are only 6 ohms? One of the reasons I chose these speakers was because of the following review which pairs a Jolida hybrid 30x2 with the Wharfedale 10.1, again a 6 and 8 ohm combination.

Here is the review:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20064619-47.html

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Shouldn't be a problem running 6 Ohm speakers

on a JD1701 as the power amp section is a mosfet solid state. Usually full tube amps with both tube preamp and power amp sections like the JD502 will have separate 8 Ohm and 4 Ohm taps.

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