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Insanely specd DAC/DAP!

This thing could be absurd. Especially the XD model with DAD upgrade.
http://igg.me/at/geek-wave/x/5825990

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Interesting Product

Interesting product, the issue I have always found with these devises is that I never know what I want to listen to and given the size of high res music, 100GB will go pretty quick if you plan to have any Hi-Res recordings.

Personally, I think it would be great if someone made a small Wi-Fi player that could access you music on a home server when out and about or at least in a Wi-Fi zone and also build in your main streaming services so you have the option.

basically an Iphone with a great dac (you can of course get an external dac + Jrivers for the server application), but you still have two devises.

I personally like what with this start up is trying to do. Curious to see how it progresses.

http://www.ponomusic.com/

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audiophile2000, there is a problem

Streaming hi-res over a wireless network is bandwidth-consuming, and if you want real remote access (i.e. from any Wi-Fi spot to your home network) you need to use VoIP, which is not designed for synchronous applications.
Of course you could use buffering but even then results are not guaranteed.

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a steady stream....a distant memory.......

The Hi-Rez market is niche & young.

I hope dearly that it grows, and does so quickly.

Too, the market appears to be heading towards streaming music in general & hi(er)-Rez streaming in some cases. See Qobuz. Also, see Steve Guttenberg’s “As We See It” essay in the July 2014 issue.

I like the idea that ‘portable’ Hi-Rez is becoming topical. Getting all generations, not just the younger ones, exposed something besides highly compressed Itune muck is a beneficial thing for all who appreciate music.

Currently, the biggest hurdle is getting player software that is ubiquitous to the multiple formats & operating systems.

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Hi-Res Streaming

I think we will see this one day, but the big issue here will always be bandwidth at a commercial level.

With that said, I think / know, this is very possible today. Most good computer audio software will have a server function built in that will let you stream to your mobile clients while you are out. Really will just depend on your internet connection at home. A lot of cable connections today will have the upload bandwidth for CD and some Hi-res and many of the fiber services will get you all the way to 24bit/192 files.

On day it would be nice to see a real CD quality music service, but have a feeling that may still be a few years, but it is possible today with your collection.

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Net Nutrality

I spend a high percentage of time listening to internet radio. None of the stations I have in my queue are at less than 44/16, redbook (CD) resolution. I do not use any streaming services specifically because there so many other options which provide better resolution. I must also disclose that never use portable devices for listening.

I am not so sure available bandwidth is the issue as much as the lack of demand for higher resolution is.

This, along with the fact net neutrality is under attack in the US by the FCC & federal regulators being lobbied by the communications industries while few citizens seem to realize the implications of the ramifications has me V concerned.

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CD Quality Internet Radio

Wkhanna,

Just curious, Can you share what stations you are listening to. I haven't seen many station that will truly stream CD quality music.

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audiophile2000 wrote:

With that said, I think / know, this is very possible today. Most good computer audio software will have a server function built in that will let you stream to your mobile clients while you are out.

What kind of link would you use between the home-based streamer and your mobile client? I think you'll have to upload (stream) your music in the cloud and download (stream it) to an accessible Wi-Fi spot.

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Jrivers

Jrivers has the feature incorporated in. I believe it works through gizmo, but essentially your phone or computer can connect to your main jrivers server from anywhere in the world and then from the client you can select to stream the original file or have it down sampled to MP3 if you need for bandwith issues

From my experience 1.5mbps upload speed will let you stream full CD quality without issues (I think CDs are roughly 700 to 1200kpbs.

high res gets more difficult. to give you a sense 192/24bit files are 5,000 to 5,500 kbps so your talking over 5mbps so really only applicable if you have a fiber line in your area.

Download speed is rarely the issue from my experience. the weakest link in the chain is the upload speed.

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