In a word, NO!

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In a word, NO!

I second that motion.

Most adamantly No.

Sorry!

I really admire and enjoy Phil COllins. As a drummer. Stick with me here! As a drummer, PC laid down the beat for Brian Eno on my favorite Eno albums, Taking Tiger Mtn., Another Green World, and Before and After Science. He has played drums with Robert Fripp, RObert Plant, Al DiMeola, and Lee Ritenour. I think he played the drums on Heroes and some of the other Eno produced Bowie.

Then man can drum. He is responsible for some of the seminal drumming of the alternative/avant-rock drumming of rock history.

Having said that I think his pop songs are wimpy and filler.

Trey

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I think he played the drums on Heroes and some of the other Eno produced Bowie.

I don't believe this is correct, or any Bowie/Collins connection. Link?

rgi, I looked it up on Allmusic and you are correct. They do NOT list Collins playing drums on Heroes. I checked the others and they were accurate. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for setting the record straight!

Trey

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Then man can drum. He is responsible for some of the seminal drumming of the alternative/avant-rock drumming of rock history.

Having said that I think his pop songs are wimpy and filler.

Trey

I do have to agree on that first statement and Phil Collins did do alot of session work for various musicians. He worked with Clapton which is cool all unto itself

And I have to solidly agree with the last statement. PC became to epitome of commercial pop/fluff; a great musician but the latter outweighs the prior to a larger degree.

Mark

I own the Loose in Paris dvd that is great. Genesis is as well.

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Then man can drum. He is responsible for some of the seminal drumming of the alternative/avant-rock drumming of rock history.

Having said that I think his pop songs are wimpy and filler.

Trey

I do have to agree on that first statement and Phil Collins did do alot of session work for various musicians. He worked with Clapton which is cool all unto itself

And I have to solidly agree with the last statement. PC became to epitome of commercial pop/fluff; a great musician but the latter outweighs the prior to a larger degree.

Mark

Some excellent Phil Collins quotes:

"Beyond a certain point, the music isn't mine anymore. It's yours."

"I do that in whatever language of the country I'm in, because the audience appreciates it."

"I know it shouldn't make a difference, but crossing the dateline, we weren't sure what day it was - it was very strange. Now, I seem to cope with it better."

"I'll have the music, and then I'll just turn the microphone on, press Play and Record and sing. And whatever comes out ends up being the melody."

"I'm just trying to do things that are interesting for me."

"I'm not trying necessarily to become a movie star; that wouldn't be bad but that's not the aim. I'm just trying to do interesting things and go into areas where I've not been before."

"I'm writing new songs for a Broadway version of Tarzan, which is very interesting. I think what I learned from the Brother Bear score side of things, I've brought into the new Tarzan songs. Thinking outside just guitar, bass, drums and keyboards."

"If Miles Davis hadn't died it would have been interesting to do an album with him, but there wasn't much else that would have got me into the studio... although Herbie Hancock has just been in touch about doing something and that would be an interesting combination."

Those are excellent quotes indeed

Especially the last one. What if that transpired while Miles was still around? You know it would have been an amazing project. With Herbie too. wow!

Mark

I'm not really a PC fan. I wasn't a Genesis fan. PC sings Do Nothing Till You Hear From Me on Quincy Jones' Q's Juke Joint. He sings it well. I have stumped many people when playing this song.
I think people recognize PC's voice but don't want to believe it.

Here's what happens whe Chef gives Stan, Kyle and the gang Riddle-Out (the antidote to Riddle-In) at a Phil Collins concert.

Phil Collins on South Park

EARLY genesis is great. lamb lies down on broadway, etc

I'm trying to listen to the new Robert Palmer disc, but Evelyn, my supposed fianc

"I'm writing new songs for a Broadway version of Tarzan, which is very interesting. I think what I learned from the Brother Bear score side of things, I've brought into the new Tarzan songs. Thinking outside just guitar, bass, drums and keyboards."

You know, writing for Disney and Broadway is exactly how Celine Dion got where she is today. 'Nuff said.

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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

"New card. Whaddya think?"

Ha. Nah, I copied it verbatim. It's even on "Bone" colored paper.