As I recall Limbaugh made several predictions last Friday. He predicted the left would figure a way to make it his fault, or blame Bush, or pretend being against Obama and his schemes is being against America (a real stretch for the anti-War left who spent years trying to explain how selling out their country at war was patriotic). Seems he was right.

On cue the left does exactly as expected...Obama's hubris, arrogance and ineptness get twisted into "Bush did it" (Senator Burris) or Limbaugh did it per your cite...

I guess they had to come up with a talking point, any talking point to explain the failure...

Fox had two pre-written stories for this.

1) Obama loses Olympics, diminishes his standing...what they've run.

2) They had one talking about Obama wasting the country's money on Olympic games and the fiscal folly of hosting an Olympics and how it was a liberal cult of persoanlity thing to have tried for the Olympics, especially using Chicago.

It ran for about ten seconds when they were worried the Olympics would come here - then they changed direction.

Yeah, the teabaggers hate their country enough to have pre-written 'news.' They are immature tantrumizers looking to head into race baiting next - get ready for more "white civil rights" propoganda behind which to hide.

JIMV, ask Rush for me - why does an unmarried conservative values guy need a jar full of Viagra for a weekend jaunt to the Dominican.

Yuck, sex tourism, but the teabaggers keep slurping up any jizz he spews. Better wear a brain condom.

Wake up, ya got a perv who can't maintain a marital relationship running your cerebral cortex.

At least try thinking up things on your own, for a change.

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Yuck, sex tourism, but the teabaggers keep slurping up any jizz he spews. Better wear a brain condom.

Dude!

Instead of finger pointing and name calling maybe we should try to figure out why Rio won...they have topless beaches.

Now that's what I call immature.

Everywhere has topless beaches, but Chicago...

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Everywhere has topless beaches, but Chicago...

Where are your local topless beaches?

I think Chicago got 18 votes. "Bratty 13 year olds"? More like surprise! Nobody gives a shit.

It's not sports teams. There is no us and them in that respect. It's a league, where they all work together to a large extent, specifically with regard to keeping things out of your knowledge and making sure you think it is a 'team against team' thing.

There is a higher level to it,and it's more a case of them(elitists) against you(citizen).

Stop falling for this 'left vs right' horseshit.

Hey, I didn't post the fucking op/ed. Jan did.

There is a left right divide, yes. But it is a group of people, like the rest of us, who generally don't have a clue about 'other' or 'further, deeper -still' levels of control. They are like the group of wolves who surround the corpse to make sure they get to partition the discarded pieces before the 'general group' does. Like trustees at a prison, or 'prisoner/guards' (rats) who bow before the system to get a scrap. They think and try to believe they are inside the system, safe and sound..and they do the bidding of others to ensure their scrap at the table. The 'Grand Viziers' are the truer powers and keeping you and as many people as possible in ignorance of their existence is critical. They keep as many of their own people in ignorance as is possible. Knowledge is power-and ignorance maintains it. Simple enough.

There is a deeper, more internalized system and that still has multiple sides and multiple agendas, but they do agree to keep their shenanigans completely out of the public eye and keep as much ignorance as possible in their minions, this 'outer guard'. We see the reflection of the mental state of the 'outer guard', or 'praetorian guard' who act as a buffer between the true in-situ powers and the general population. We only catch glimpses of the true state of affairs the odd time, if we know what to pay attention to. That true inner group is very vicious and guards their position with an iron fist in ways that we never get to see, and when you do...that's just about all she wrote-for you.

Meaning, Congress, the White house, the Pentagon, etc, are all aspects of a dancing girl show.

'Who's putting on the show?', should be a person's real questions and direction of inquiry. I don't think that many -if any- western stylized governments are any different than the above. Sometimes you might think you were better off with despots ruling with iron fists-so you can know the actual face of the problem in the given system, but even they can simply be a front, so it's pretty hard to tell. At least with the despot, the odds of being one step away from the true levels of (exercised) control are higher.

These are very old systems of influence, power, control, and corruption, and they are with us today as they were centuries and millenia ago. No different. They worked then as a good tool to fool the general population, and they work as well today.

Like that outer praetorian guard, ie, congress, we all like to think that we are in control and informed, so we can feel comfortable and safe on a day to day basis, otherwise we would freak out. So we imagine that we know what is going on and we imagine what we feel we need to imagine through this reflection we see of this 'self aggrandized' praetorian guard of the Senate, Congress, White house, Pentagon (upper echelon of pentagon) and whatnot. Even your local cop goes on power trips and has associations so he can feel comfortable and safe.

Since the physical and emotional aspect of the human overall 'psyche' work at keeping the general public (at all levels) in a self created mental state of 'relative comfort' (via a tightly controlled and fairly in-depth created refection which is deep enough for the bulk of humanity-newspapers, television, etc) you can see why those who really run things go out of their way to smash, in a mighty, direct, and quick way -anyone who can or tries to wrest the public out of it's slumber of cognitive dissonance....the cognitive dissonance that is required for a person to walk down the street every day without hunching their shoulders together in pain and fear. Once again, the cognitive dissonance of seeing the reflection of all those around you that have no clue...helps keep you in line and in the state of cognitive dissonance. Meaning, it will not be long before a shill or a dissonant individual comes along and discredits this most basic analysis I present to you. The zoo guards and their batons and report books are not far behind those who attempt to speak to anyone about the basics of reality.

When they (the ever ambiguous 'they') want a change, this inner group slowly creates motion and direction in this artificial beast..and turns the heat up so there is just enough fear inspired grease inserted in the system to get the bulk of the given human group to accept the proffered direction.

Meaning, in this particular time and space, with this particular factional control group in place, the whole emergence of the orchestrated messianic hand held up and the message of 'I am the Obama'. Last time around it was the fear and whip of 9/11, and the message of a illiterate and dumb John Wayne (the kind that the baser instincts of the masses could get behind and identify with) that was used by that particular insider group (a quite viscous and hard group, I might add) riding on top like a cowboy, that was used to run roughshod over the populace. These groups largely want the same thing and largely move in the same directions, which is why you never see the actions of one group, with regard to erections of power systems that aid them (laws, presidential decrees, appointments, and signing statements), removed or rescinded by the 'new administration', in the vast bulk of the given instances.

Appointments are taken care of pretty quick with the given incoming 'administration' ,which is why they call it an administration-it is not the power itself---it is merely it's 'administration!' Appointments very much tend to be critical control positions, so the best minions need be put into place. Sometimes, it's even a real person who is within the given actual control group that is placed there, if it is deemed that critical. This is why it is vital to pay serious attention to the given incoming administration's given appointments and in this current case, the mass of 'czars' that have been appointed. This is the direct mark and showing of the real hand that is behind things.

As you can see, the coming attempt to proffer you a 'solution' to the problem they created, is a fairly big change and compromise, as the level of crap being thrust on the populations of the western world are pretty darned extreme. The fear and confusion must be big enough for you to accept the proffered change.

As L. Frank Baum said, "Pay no attention to the man behind the Curtain!"

The reality is that if you bother to read this post, the cognitive dissonance it creates will attempt to right itself to it's normal state of self imposed 'moment to moment' ignorance --- in the very instant you turn your head from this screen. The rest of the pressures of the world and daily life always make it so.

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Yep, and I still believe in the left/right divide. At least the left has conservatives, moderates and liberals in the party who all negogiate with each other. The right celebrates Michelle Bachman and calls Olympia Snow a liberal rino.

That's a one-sided crock of shit. Do you write for the magazine?

Jan, lost your butt-plug again, I see.

Don't you have a rainbow rally for the Nobel Piece Prize to attend?

I'm of the same opinion, to basically ban political talk of any kind. Sadly.

Too much like episode of the pool of water and the monkeys that fight over it in the Kubrick's '2001'.

It has been a brave attempt, though.

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Twenty out of twenty three posts this morning are political. Great audio forum this has turned out to be.

The people who spent their days complaining about any political comments made in the magazine have had their day and then some. Can we get rid of this section of the forum and get back to audio?

Uh, you started this fucking thread.

Both parties do the same thing - undermine and try to limit what the other can do - that is politics in a nutshell.

If you are dumb enough to believe that one party is truly different than the other, then you drank the 233 year old batch of cool aid that this country has been brewing.

Politics in the US is a self replicating problem, not a solution for anything. I'd rather have some random librarian in the white house as president than a career politician with 30+ years of doing and owing favors that is just more of the same status quo.