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About insect flight: It's even worse for a bumble bee than it is for a bee!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090507194511.htm

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I'm sorry, jj. My point was that your reaction to dixieland was egregiously rantish and over the top, as is your offense to my talking points.

First rule of dishonst rhetoric: "Define your opponent".

That's what you're trying to do with your lies about the positions I've taken.

There's nothing over the top about my pointing out real, actual history and the role that current attempts at revisionism in the USA appear to be playing, given konwlege of history.

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BTW, I'm very proud of my son, who has a Ph.D. in Biology, specializing in insect flight mechanics.


I bet he has some cool examples of what these critters actually do to fly.

According to the laws of physics, they can't.

Scofflaw insects.

Oh, look, they fell for your trick.

The full statement is "given standard fixed-wing mathematics a bumblebee can not fly".

Of course, now will they be asserting that a bumblebee has fixed wings that do not flap?

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BTW, I'm very proud of my son, who has a Ph.D. in Biology, specializing in insect flight mechanics.


I bet he has some cool examples of what these critters actually do to fly.

According to the laws of physics, they can't.

Scofflaw insects.

Oh, look, they fell for your trick.

The full statement is "given standard fixed-wing mathematics a bumblebee can not fly".

Of course, now will they be asserting that a bumblebee has fixed wings that do not flap?

Dumb ass, it was a joke about that very saying.

I demand an X-ray examination to diagnose what kind of stick it is, exactly, that you have up your ass.

Good lord, J_J.

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Scofflaw insects.


Sneaky little beasties!

My guess is they saw hummingbirds and imitated them.

Cross-familial modeling. It's the bane of insect parenting.

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BTW, I'm very proud of my son, who has a Ph.D. in Biology, specializing in insect flight mechanics.


I bet he has some cool examples of what these critters actually do to fly.

According to the laws of physics, they can't.

Scofflaw insects.

I read years ago that with big, massive insects like bumblebees and dung beetles, the missing piece of the puzzle is that they must elevate their body temperature close to the lethal level in order to be able to generate the necessary power to fly. Without that increase, no they can't fly. Wing loading too high; maximum rate of flapping too low.

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I demand an X-ray examination to diagnose what kind of stick it is, exactly, that you have up your ass.

Well, I think you caught them up nicely with that old bumblebee canard, but if you must, well, I'll pass the baton.

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I demand an X-ray examination to diagnose what kind of stick it is, exactly, that you have up your ass.

Well, I think you caught them up nicely with that old bumblebee canard, but if you must, well, I'll pass the baton.



OUCH!!

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. . . old bumblebee canard . . .


Nice little aeronautic pun!

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. . . old bumblebee canard . . .


Nice little aeronautic pun!

I was just winging it.

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