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Who knows hometheatertalk.net?

Does anyone here know who owns www.hometheatertalk.net? They stole the Room Setup video from my company's web site, stripped out our name and copyright info, inserted a link to their own web site, and posted it at Yahoo Videos and Spike.com and possibly other sites. I tried to find who owns hometheatertalk.net in the Internet WhoIs database, but it's registered through a "cloak" service to hide the identity. Likewise for their sister site www.interiordesignmadeeasy.info which is also hidden.

I honestly don't mind if my educational videos are passed around. That's why I made them! But to strip out the credits and source and pretend it's their content for the purpose of driving traffic to their own commercial site is way out of line. Any leads sent to me via the RealTraps Contact Page are greatly appreciated.

--Ethan

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I wish I knew.

This is a clear intellectual property rights violation.

And just plain mean.

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Contact Yahoo and Spike with a firm statement about your ownership and their contingent culpability and see if they will remove the material and/or provide some info. Next step is to see an attorney, if you value your investment.

Kal

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It's difficult to do much.

For example, Nelson Pass's work (intellectual property) is sold out of China, on Ebay.

Direct intervention and threats from lawyers (to everyone involved) has done nothing to stop it.

Interestingly enough, the countries that have not the ties with commercialism and commerce in the way that westernized society have..those folks on the DIYAudio forum have the greatest amount of trouble in understanding what the problem exactly is.

We've had some folks sell THEIR own product, using OUR promotional photos and literature on Ebay.

We haven't managed to stop that, either.

One guy who is doing such on Ebay, he seems to live and ship out of Ontario.

He's within driving distance. I'm of a mind to go and see him. I'd likely ...shortly thereafter... be charged with something that would restrict me from international travel.

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Contact Yahoo and Spike with a firm statement about your ownership and their contingent culpability and see if they will remove the material and/or provide some info. Next step is to see an attorney, if you value your investment.


Done and done. Spike auto-replied immediately and promised to have a "decision" within three business days. Yahoo emailed me today saying they need my complaint to be in a certain format, which I already sent back to them.

As for lawyers, been there done that. Very expensive with no guarantees. When one of my my competitors created a BS web site just to defame me he did it using a cloak registrar, and even the $5,000 I paid was not enough to force the registrar to reveal ownership. That would have been another $10k to $20k for court orders etc. Of course, I knew exactly who was behind the site.

In this case it's more slimy than a loss to me. The motive is clearly to drive people to a site with nothing more than fluff content, but lots of Google ads. Perhaps I can appeal to Google to reveal where they send the checks, but I'm not optimistic.

--Ethan

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Hi Ethan, does this information help?

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=hometheatertalk.net&prog_id=godaddy

Regards Helmut
www.holophony.net

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Not a big help because the registration is through a cloak service, often used by slime balls just for this reason.

--Ethan

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Way back when viruses where just beginning to be the norm, my brother's friend, who is a math savant, hated a certain guy who always gave him grief.

What he did, is he created a targeted virus, for that guy's exact name. And let it loose on the net. No matter where it showed up, if there was a PC with no virus protection..and... with his name on it -anywhere in the world-..the virus would tear up that hard drive.

Vengeance can be sweet. And messy. And long term.

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he created a targeted virus, for that guy's exact name.


LOL!

I called the web host GoDaddy and they shut down hometheatertalk.net within 15 minutes. I'm impressed! The funny part is they said they sent my contact info to the site owner, and he has to contact me if he wants this resolved. And sure enough, an hour later a sheepish college kid called and apologized. He said he was scammed too, and thought he was buying legit content. He offered to have his site redirect to my site, so if anyone sees the video (it's on a dozen video hosts) and types hometheatertalk.net it will go right to me. Which I thought was fair.

--Ethan

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Excellent resolution.

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Hi Ethan,

I was wondering why you recommend the Radio Shack spl meter, in the video, when for the past 7 weeks you have insisted that the RS spl meter has a grossly inaccurate 34 db total variation?

http://www.realtraps.com/art_microphones.htm

At Audio Circle and other places you link to your webpage.

http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=58000.0

And at stereophile forum

http://forum.stereophile.com/forum/showf...e=0&fpart=1

I am sure you realize that the accompanying graph in the video is also grossly inaccurate since, according to you, the RS meter was used to make the measurements/graph.

I was wondering if you are planning to inform the public of the gross inaccuracies?

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Excellent resolution.


Yeah, though I'd really like to wrap my fingers around the neck of the clown who "sold" him my video. I imagine I'm not the only one who was ripped off.

The Internet is a wild and crazy place where too few people have morals or even common decency.

--Ethan

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Sam, what kind of grudge do you carry on here with your relentless pounding on something. Maybe you need some "acoustic damping" for you to calm down, you sure seem like bent on some kind of anti Ethan campaign, is this under what kind of motivation? Don't you have a tube pre amp to repair?

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Sam, what kind of grudge do you carry on here with your relentless pounding on something. Maybe you need some "acoustic damping" for you to calm down, you sure seem like bent on some kind of anti Ethan campaign, is this under what kind of motivation? Don't you have a tube pre amp to repair?

Simple dup. He is continuing to put out misinformatioin, a video, recommending a RS spl meter that he has contended for weeks is grossly inaccurate (34db total variation), thus misleading, as well as the graph presented in the video which used the grossly inaccurate RS mic.

How is the public suppose to know that the graph is grossly misleading. I guess his idea is to manipulate the public.

Why not simply use an accurate mic like the AKG that he owns for his graph in his video?

Dup, do you also support misleading information being disseminated to the public? I thought you were about truth in advertising, so it is surprising that you seem to encourage misinformation being disseminated. You complain about wires, how about misinformation?

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He is continuing to put out misinformatioin, a video, recommending a RS spl meter that he has contended for weeks is grossly inaccurate (34db total variation), thus misleading, as well as the graph presented in the video which used the grossly inaccurate RS mic.

How is the public suppose to know that the graph is grossly misleading. I guess his idea is to manipulate the public.

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Dup, do you also support misleading information being disseminated to the public? I thought you were about truth in advertising, so it is surprising that you seem to encourage misinformation being disseminated. You complain about wires, how about misinformation?

Hi Steve,

I feel you are out of line here. If you would like to address Ethan about the contents of his videos themselves, either start a new thread addressing the matter as a whole to the entire forum (kindly) or send him a private message. The forum should not be a medium for personal vindicative vendettas.

This thread is about Ethan's ordeal with hometheatertalk and not the contents of the videos themselves.

This does not open Ethan up to attack.

Ethan, congrats on resolving the issue. I was intrigued.

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He is continuing to put out misinformatioin, a video, recommending a RS spl meter that he has contended for weeks is grossly inaccurate (34db total variation), thus misleading, as well as the graph presented in the video which used the grossly inaccurate RS mic.

How is the public suppose to know that the graph is grossly misleading. I guess his idea is to manipulate the public.

.....

Dup, do you also support misleading information being disseminated to the public? I thought you were about truth in advertising, so it is surprising that you seem to encourage misinformation being disseminated. You complain about wires, how about misinformation?

Hi Steve,

I feel you are out of line here. If you would like to address Ethan about the contents of his videos themselves, either start a new thread addressing the matter as a whole to the entire forum (kindly) or send him a private message. The forum should not be a medium for personal vindicative vendettas.

This thread is about Ethan's ordeal with hometheatertalk and not the contents of the videos themselves.

This does not open Ethan up to attack.

Ethan, congrats on resolving the issue. I was intrigued.

He is clearly and knowingly presenting false information to the public in the video. So how is it vindictive? What is wrong in helping the public?


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The Internet is a wild and crazy place where too few people have morals or even common decency.

So he is claiming to be moral and descent while he knowing dissiminates false material yet again? Seems to me the public has a right to know when someone continually provides false information.

Why, Ariel, haven't you denounced, in other strings, about Ethan's grossly inaccurate information??

Maybe you are right though, to start another string?

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Now that Ethan's problem has been resolved, I will close this thread.

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