Stereophile's Products of 2019 Digital Source of 2019

Digital Source of 2019

Mytek Brooklyn Bridge streaming D/A processor ($2995; reviewed by Jim Austin, September 2019, Vol.42 No.9 Review)

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Brooklyn-based Mytek is no stranger to the POTY winner's circle. Indeed, this year's Digital Component of the Year, the Brooklyn Bridge streaming D/A processor, is based upon Mytek's Brooklyn DAC, which was our Joint Digital Component of the Year for 2017. As JCA pointed out, "The Brooklyn Bridge retains all the main features" of the Mytek Brooklyn, from full MQA decoding to analog line-level and phono inputs, and adds streaming and network-server capabilities, wireless and via Ethernet. Jim also praised its "rich, detailed sound" and, noting that the Brooklyn Bridge is, as far as he knew, the only streamer possessing a DAC used in studios, wrote, "For the moment, the Brooklyn Bridge appears to have the class to itself."

Notes on the Vote
Here was another decisive vote: The Mytek Brooklyn Bridge received over 30% more votes than the second-place winner, the Roon Nucleus+—which was propelled to second place by a preponderance of second-place votes! Sometimes things work out that neatly.

Third place in this category was a tie between the Chord Qutest D/A processor—which won more third-place votes than any other product in this year's competition—and another Mytek product, the very high-value Liberty D/A processor.

Finalists (in alphabetical order)
Chord Electronics Qutest D/A processor ($1895; reviewed by John Atkinson and Herb Reichert, January & March 2019, Vol.42 Nos.1 & 3 Review)
dCS Rossini Transport ($23,500; reviewed by John Atkinson, May 2019, Vol.42 No.5 Review)
Mytek Liberty D/A processor ($995; reviewed by Art Dudley, November 2018, Vol.41 No.11 Review)
Roon Nucleus+ music server ($2498; reviewed by John Atkinson and Kal Rubinson, August 2018 and March 2019, Vol.41 No.8 & Vol.42 No.3 Review and Review)
Wolf Systems Alpha 3 HFAS+ Apex server ($7195; reviewed by Kal Rubinson, January 2019, Vol.42 No.1 Review)

COMMENTS
mns3dhm's picture

Great to see Stereophile nominations for products priced within the reach of most households in every category. Hallelujah.

tonykaz's picture

A $50,000 tone Arm is within reach ??? ( is there gravity on the Planet you live on ? )

On the whole, vinyl is well-out of reach for todays households.

Tony in Venice

audiophile90's picture

Sarcasm, buddy. Clearly he's being sarcastic. The products recommended here are crazy.

Indydan's picture

Vinyl sucks. Just admit it.

jjljr's picture

Just admit it. (and there are plenty of good, affordable LP/vinyl products)

RH's picture

Trolls suck harder. ;-)

Robin Landseadel's picture

I suppose Trolls suck harder. But considering that the vast bulk of LPs now being manufactured are derived from digital sources, this revival of an outdated format has turned into a costly and pointless farce. Tony is right, on what planet does a $50,000 tonearm make sense anyway?

Bogolu Haranath's picture

I'm waiting for $100,000 'Mag-Lev' tonearm, which would defy gravity, to make it to the recommended components list :-) .......

RH's picture

Robin,

You've offered a fairly common but unfortunately short-sighted analysis of the appeal of vinyl records.

First of all, for those who really care about analog masters, there is obviously a VAST amount of legacy vinyl available in the second hand market, whether at record stores, on-line or whatever.

But that is actually beside the point I would want to make.

To think that one must seek vinyl records from analog masters, otherwise it's a "pointless farce," is to misunderstand the appeal for many record buyers. You don't have to be a dogmatic analog-source-audiophile to enjoy vinyl. Much of the pleasure is the physical/aesthetic aspects of vinyl. And the pleasure of physical turntables, and owning a physical music collection. And the way many people (not all, not you apparently, but many) find the whole physical aspect connects them to the music differently. I'd been streaming my ripped CDs, and Tidal, for quite a while but found that with countless songs at my fingertip I tended to "surf" music rather than listen intently as I used to, skipping from track to track, often not even listening to a whole song. Getting back in to vinyl cured that "Music ADD" and if I put on a record I inevitably sit to listen to a full side, if not the whole album. I'm not in that fidgety "surfing music" mode and I like the experience better.
Many in to vinyl, from older folks to millennials to even young people have mentioned similar experience from the effect of getting in to vinyl.

None of that requires analog masters.

And on a purely sonic level, even the idea that a digital master for an LP is silly doesn't hit a bullseye. First of all, the sonic quality of any record will be determined by the sonic quality of the master. Analog masters obviously don't guarantee good sound. There's tons of crappy sounding LPs from analog masters. I have a vinyl collection from both analog and digital masters, and the sound quality is not dependent on "analog master or digital master" but on the quality of the mix/engineering/mastering itself. If it's great sound from a digital master, then I get great sound ALONG with all the physical pleasures of the vinyl experience.

Further, even in the case of digital masters, vinyl STILL tends to sound a bit different than digital. There are different mastering moves made for vinyl, and the technology itself, getting that sound inscribed in vinyl grooves, getting it back off again via a stylus, turntable, phono stage etc tend to mean that some of the "vinyl distortions" accrue in the process once it makes it's way to your speakers. And people can still find those vinyl distortions to be pleasant. I have a number of vinyl albums made from the same original digital mixes as my CDs, and in comparing them I have often enough preferred how they sounded coming off vinyl (a bit more vivid, a bit more texture, a bit more "pop out of the speakers" effect). So, preference still has something to play with here.

I hope this clears up for you why vinyl isn't made "pointless" by the fact lots of new vinyl comes from digital masters. Maybe for you, if you were dead set on analog masters, but it doesn't follow that everyone's enjoyment of vinyl would turn on such a dogmatic point.

Cheers.

Robin Landseadel's picture

Lotsa of obfuscation goin' on here.

I don't care if the the source is analog or digital.

I do care that the playback is in tune, is consistent in sound from beginning to end. LPs fail, consistently, in both regards. It's inherent, incurable, and to these ears, unavoidable. All records are off-center, it's only a question of degree. All LPs lose energy from the start of the groove all the way to the end. It's unavoidable. One has to learn to listen around these issues. You say it's going to sound different, I say it sounds different because it's distorting. I see no reason why I should put up with this anymore.

But the fact that the source, usually digital these days, is superior to the LP, is unavoidable. Energy goes downhill. That doubly applies as regards LPs.

RH's picture

Robin,

"Lotsa of obfuscation goin' on here. "

Not at all. What was actually going on was clarifying issues you were ignoring. You were the one who claimed that vinyl from digital masters was "pointless." I made the case for why that simply doesn't take in to consideration all the reasons people enjoy collecting vinyl. You haven't provided any counter argument, only another form of the same rant, ignoring everything I wrote.

"You say it's going to sound different, I say it sounds different because it's distorting."

Correct! Did you not see that's exactly what I wrote? Vinyl *distortions.*

And sometimes I, and many others, actually enjoy the sound that particular distortion creates. Can you not understand that other people may have different preferences from your own? That's the point I'm making and it's hardly "obfuscation" to make that real-world fact a point.

" I see no reason why I should put up with this anymore."

Who in the world is trying to force you to listen to vinyl???
You don't "have" to put up with anything. Just listen to what YOU like. Just don't pretend what YOU like is THE standard for what is rational for anyone else to like.

It's always fascinating to me that a subject like vinyl records make some people so steamed they can't seem to think beyond their own desires to imagine how a product fulfills other people's interests and goals.

Robin Landseadel's picture

One more time.
LPs have inherent, uncorrectable design flaws. Nothing can fix them.

RH's picture

Ok, as you don't seem open to actual conversation where you respond to what someone has written. So be it.

Perhaps a well-designed moat around the house will protect from all those vinyl albums out to get you ;-)

Robin Landseadel's picture

You folks aren't all that interested in reality:

https://www.sageaudio.com/blog/mastering/what-is-mastering-for-vinyl.php

"The Physical Limitations of a Vinyl Record:
The secrets of mastering for vinyl lie in the specific limitations of the physical vinyl record itself, and the cutting process used to create it.

Let’s address the potential issues stated above. Again, they are:

Varying degrees of distortion
Skipping needles during playback
Lacking dynamics
An overall less pleasant listening experience
Varying Degrees of Distortion:
When is comes to vinyl record cutting, a general understanding of the physics behind the process is needed.

I won’t be exploring the science too deeply, since the information is vast, complex, and may not directly help answer the questions posed earlier.

So here briefly is an explanation as to how the potential for future distortion occurs during the cutting process, and how that distortion occurs during the playback process.

First it must be understood that the physical shape of the vinyl disc causes a varying rate at which the information can be cut into it.

. . .
The circumference of the record is greater along the outside, than on the inside.
In other words, when a record is being cut, and also during it’s playback, the greater circumference of the outside of the record allows for a greater surface area to be cut.

Since the lathe, and playback system rotate the record at a unchanging rate, and the surface area becomes smaller the closer to the inside of the record the needle gets, the velocity of the needle slows down significantly.

On the outside of a record, the needle or lathe’s cutter moves at roughly 20 inches per second. But on the inside, the needle or lathe moves are roughly 8 and 1/2 inches per second.

Sonically and technically, this would be very similar to reducing the tape speed of a tape machine from 15 ips to about 3 and 3/4 ips.

. . .
Notice the speed functions on the lower right side of this tape machine.
In a more modern example, this is similar to reducing the sampling rate of a digital recording from 96kHz to 22.05kHz.

In all of these examples, you’d be able to notice a significant decrease in the replication of the high end or the high frequency range.

This is precisely what happens to a vinyl record. As the surface area is reduced, the ability to both create and playback high frequencies is significantly reduced.

. . .
By the time the lathe needle reaches the center of a record, 15kHz has been attenuated 3dB.
Furthermore, the amount of distortion created during the cutting process, directly corresponds to the amplitude of the high frequency signal at these low surface area, inner record parts.

Because the surface area is limited closer to the center of the record, the lathe must work harder to cut higher frequencies. If the needle works too hard, it will jump out of its groove, causing hissing and distortion.

Due to this physical limitation, it is imperative that the level or amplitude at which the record is cut be closely monitored, and uniform across the entirety of the record.

This is why the track list of a vinyl record needs to be carefully planned.

Typically, softer tracks with a lower integrated amplitude are placed closer to the center of the disc, while the louder more aggressive tracks are sequenced farther to the outside.

Again, the additional surface area along the outside of the record allows for more information to be cut without resulting distortion.

The smaller surface area, and subsequent cutting speed of the center, lends itself to increased distortion at high amplitudes."

In other words, a modern master has to be compromised in order to be turned into an LP. LPs are nowhere near the current state of the art. That makes ultra-high priced LP playback gear a waste of money, as the results will never be as good as what is possible by simply back the digital master on digital gear.

RH's picture

Robin wrote:

"You folks aren't all that interested in reality:"

Actually, it's you who refuses to interact with reality: the reality of what I have actually written in my responses.
Can you point to one single thing that I have written that is untrue? Of course not. Which is apparently why you continue to ignore it.

Yet again, you just posted a long list of the ways the vinyl-making process can accrue distortion (deviation from the original signal).

In other words, you've just repeated WHAT I ALREADY WROTE TO YOU. Do you remember me writing this just above your own comments?:

RH wrote: "Further, even in the case of digital masters, vinyl STILL tends to sound a bit different than digital. There are different mastering moves made for vinyl, and the technology itself, getting that sound inscribed in vinyl grooves, getting it back off again via a stylus, turntable, phono stage etc tend to mean that some of the "vinyl distortions" accrue in the process once it makes it's way to your speakers."

Once sonic deviations are introduced by the vinyl-making process, preference can play a role, and some people can find they like the sound of vinyl.

As I said, I have compared the vinyl version to the digital version of various albums (from the same digital recordings/mixes), and have sometimes preferred the way it sounded on vinyl. Sometimes I prefer the digital.

Try for a moment not taking the stance of a know-it-all out to educate people who you presume to be ignorant, or declare to be uninterested in facts, and try actually reading and interacting with the content of what is being written back to you.

It's the intellectually honest way to have a conversation and makes for much better comments.

Robin Landseadel's picture

" . . . It’s as if the Age of Reason – the era of evidential argument – is ending, and now knowledge is delegitimized and scientific consensus is dismissed.”

Sascha Baron Cohen, November 21, 2019

RH's picture

^^^ How to make yourself utterly impervious to conversation.

The internet sure can be a weird place.

Bogolu Haranath's picture

Somebody needs to come up with climate change proof (just like future proof) audio equipment :-) ......

billyb's picture

Perfect sound forever?

Digital is far from being a flawless technology. But kudos to you, Robin, for ignoring that fact and oppressing everyone with your beliefs.

I am reminded of an anecdote about cd's when they first came out.

There was a person who ran music therapy classes for people with autism and he always used lp's as that was the tech available. When cd's came in they switched and started playing digital music in the therapy sessions. The patients who were used to relaxing time in therapy now were agitated and nervous.
The music was not therapeutic at all. Big problem/

There is simply something more amenable to the human ear about an analogue generated signal that presents differently than a digital signal. To deny otherwise is not realistic.

Of course, you can have any technical argument you want, and keep your preferences. But to deny the validity of a format in the face of reality is ludicrous.

RH's picture

billyb,

I'm a fan of vinyl, but I'm no fan of dubious claims made on it's behalf.

All other things being equal, digital is capable of greater accuracy. Whether one prefers that accuracy is a different question.

A problem occurs when those audiophiles who have their own *preference* for vinyl (as I often do), project that preference as if it were some objective, intrinsic quality inherent in vinyl itself. And so you get these anecdotal stories like you gave in support of the idea, and the claims about "analog being more natural" which "explains" why "people like analog better."

That's just projection.

Humans have been enthusiastic listeners of both vinyl and digital.
You will get *some* audiophiles saying "I never liked digital!" But you will hear from many who switched from vinyl to digital and never looked back, being happier with digital sound, and enjoying digital every bit as much as any vinyl enthusiast.

The HEIGHT of music sales occurred during the CD age! So digital hardly turned human beings off enjoying music!

Millions (billions) of people around the world listen to digital sources and enjoy music. My sons are big music fans and they can love their music through their laptops or phones. My youngest (17) often requests music on my 2 channel rig. Sometimes I'll spin vinyl of songs he likes, other times stream from Tidal. He doesn't give a d*amn what the source is, he responds enthusiastically to the music.

It's mostly some small percentage of audiophiles who hold to this "I just can't listen to digital, it's not musical" mindset. It isn't actually reality for humans in general. (And on technical grounds, there is no reason to expect otherwise).

Ali's picture

very interesting Bartok is not even amongst the candidates!

Jim Austin's picture

Every product considered between November 2018 and October 2019, in a review or in a column, was on the ballot distributed to Stereophile's writers, and so was indeed "a candidate." That includes the Bartok, which I reviewed favorably in the October 2019 issue. On the strength of that review, it was placed in Class A+ of Stereophile's list of Recommended Components. However, it was not among the finalists for Digital Source for 2019's Product of the Year.

For reasons hard to fathom, reviewers vary in their tastes from year to year. This year, they seemed to be more budget-minded than in some previous years--notice that the winner in that category was a much less expensive streaming DAC, the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge. Whatever the reason for this orientation toward value among 2019's voters, perhaps it helps explain why the Bartok did not make the finals.

Jim Austin, Editor
Stereophile

Bogolu Haranath's picture

May be JCA could also do a follow-up review of the new multi-function Bryston BDA-3.14 DAC/streamer/pre-amp ($4,200)?:-) .........

Ali's picture

And we got no amplifier won the hearts of editors either.

Kal Rubinson's picture

????? McIntosh MC462 power amplifier was chosen by Sasha Matson. (And, although I picked the D&D 8c's as my Editor's Choice, I bought the Benchmark amps.)

JRT's picture
Kal_Rubinson wrote:

"And, although I picked the D&D 8c's as my Editor's Choice, I bought the Benchmark amps."

Just to state something unstated in your comment, if you are going to review loudspeakers and components, you need a highly modular system that allows swapping those in/out of the playback system. Active loudspeakers such as the DSP active D&D-8C may offer very good performance, but the highly integrated nature is seemingly too inflexible for use in a reviewer's system.

So I think your choice of Revel Ultima Studio2 loudspeakers and Benchmark Media AHB2 amplifiers was a better choice for your application. But for a reader desiring a good music playback system attached to a server through a wired Gigabit Ethernet network, a pair of D&D_8C in combination with a low frequency subsystem could be a very good choice.

RH's picture

JRT, your comment reminds me of a reviewer on an AV site who tended to review speakers after applying DSP and adding subwoofers. (And this isn't a comment on Kal's system btw).

I and many others found that quite frustrating as it left us wondering what the speakers sounded like without those additions, which is how many people would use the speakers.

I have no problem with a review describing speakers having been DSP'd/EQ'd (or adding subs). So long as the speakers "out of the box" performance is first described. Robert E. Green of TAS often described the sound of review speakers corrected with EQ, after first describing them uncorrected. That's helpful because it tells you both the native sound of the speaker and whether the defects heard by the reviewer were susceptible to correction.

Kal Rubinson's picture

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Bogolu Haranath's picture

REG from TAS and TJN on Stereophile, always describe the sound of the speakers 'as is' without EQ/DSP/subwoofers ........ If they use EQ/DSP/subwoofers with those speakers, they describe their sound after using them, also ....... Of course, this applies only to passive speakers :-) ........

Bogolu Haranath's picture

JCA describes the sound of the Revel Salon2 speakers before and after using SAM in the Dec. 2019 issue of Stereophile :-) .......

jimtavegia's picture

as his room is not your room and the sound would be way different anyway. Dr. Kal is taking the approach of making things work in his room using any and all tools at his disposal, which you could do as well with the speakers you currently have. I think room correction is what more people need, but buying better speakers than what one has is never wrong.

All the speakers in this list are so different from each other that it is clear that we all hear different and have different tastes in what is "right sounding" to them.

Kal Rubinson's picture

I and many others found that quite frustrating as it left us wondering what the speakers sounded like without those additions, which is how many people would use the speakers.

Sure. That would be much more informative if they planned to use them in the same listening room as did the reviewer. :-)

RH's picture

Kal,

Just so I understand the point of your comment:

Do you mean to imply that a review of a room corrected (DSP, whatever) speaker would be more informative, insofar as it would take the room out of the equation so you hear what "just the speaker" sounds like? (In principle anyway).

Your comment seems to suggest that typical speaker reviews (not using room correction) are not very useful or informative about the general character of a speaker. Is that what you mean?

Thanks!

Kal Rubinson's picture

Do you mean to imply that a review of a room corrected (DSP, whatever) speaker would be more informative, insofar as it would take the room out of the equation so you hear what "just the speaker" sounds like? (In principle anyway)

Possibly, but such corrections do more than affect just the room's influence but they also correct the speaker's response at the same time. In addition, I believe that the majority of Stereophile readers do not want to and/or have suitable EQ in their systems. So, it is a moot point.

Your comment seems to suggest that typical speaker reviews (not using room correction) are not very useful or informative about the general character of a speaker. Is that what you mean?

If everyone had effective DSP/EQ with a common target curve, there would be more value to report with such in place but, vide supra, that is not the case.

RH's picture

Thanks.

Not sure how to interpret your final paragraph, whether it was essentially a "yes" or a "no."

Do you believe reviews of speakers which have not been room-corrected are still of use? That is, that some measure of the speaker's character can be discerned?

My feeling is "yes." (With various pretty obvious caveats).

Kal Rubinson's picture

My feeling is "yes." (With various pretty obvious caveats).


I think you can say that about both alternatives.

Kal Rubinson's picture

So I think your choice of Revel Ultima Studio2 loudspeakers and Benchmark Media AHB2 amplifiers was a better choice for your application. But for a reader desiring a good music playback system attached to a server through a wired Gigabit Ethernet network, a pair of D&D_8C in combination with a low frequency subsystem could be a very good choice.

Yeah, sure and discussed before.

Bogolu Haranath's picture

My nominations for 2020 products of the year awards ....... So far :-) .......

* Devialet Expert Pro with SAM, integrated amp .......
* Manger p1 loudspeaker ........
* RAAL SR1a ribbon headphones ...........

2020 budget components of the year ....... So far :-) .......

* AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt DAC/headphone amp ...........
* JBL Stage A170 loudspeaker .........

Bogolu Haranath's picture

2020 ultra high-end component(s) of the year (only for ultra high-end audiophiles) ....... So far :-) .......

* darTZeel NHB-468 amplifiers .........

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