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here's an idea; instead of spending the mortgage payment on high end audiophile speaker wires why not simply buy powered speakers,you know, the ones with the amp in them.
This would eliminate the whole issue, right?
After all, a perfect wire is one which is audibly nonexistent, right?
A wire which introduces absolutely no effect on the signal at all,right?
Yes, you're right,I'm just being a jerk here.
But if high-end wires actually work,(whatever that means),then you should replace the wiring inside your speakers with better wire,right?
Or what about wireless speakers?
They have no wire at all.
Would that be better or worse than speakers connected with thousand dollar wire?
Or would we still have to rewire our wireless speaker with the audiophile wires inside?
I guess my point is, there's no end to this stuff.
Before you all tell me I'm an ass, let me say that I'm one of you.
I bought a subwoofer cable, 3 feet long, for one hundred dollars.
I was told it "carries low frequencies" better than ordinary speaker wire.
How would a wire know it's carrying low frequencies?.

I have $7000 Vandersteen speakers, and I use plain old #10 copper wire speaker cables. It cost me around $200 to bi-wire them, including the gold-plated spade lugs I soldered to the ends.

I have tried speaker cables that cost 20 times as much and they do not improve the sound.

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commsysman][quote=David Harper wrote:

here's an idea; instead of spending the mortgage payment on high end audiophile speaker wires why not simply buy powered speakers,you know, the ones with the amp in them.
This would eliminate the whole issue, right?
After all, a perfect wire is one which is audibly nonexistent, right?
A wire which introduces absolutely no effect on the signal at all,right?
Yes, you're right,I'm just being a jerk here.
But if high-end wires actually work,(whatever that means),then you should replace the wiring inside your speakers with better wire,right?
Or what about wireless speakers?
They have no wire at all.
Would that be better or worse than speakers connected with thousand dollar wire?
Or would we still have to rewire our wireless speaker with the audiophile wires inside?
I guess my point is, there's no end to this stuff.
Before you all tell me I'm an ass, let me say that I'm one of you.
I bought a subwoofer cable, 3 feet long, for one hundred dollars.
I was told it "carries low frequencies" better than ordinary speaker wire.
How would a wire know it's carrying low frequencies?.

I have $7000 Vandersteen speakers, and I use plain old #10 copper wire speaker cables. It cost me around $200 to bi-wire them, including the gold-plated spade lugs I soldered to the ends.

I have tried speaker cables that cost 20 times as much and they do not improve the sound, which is excellent.

Expensive speaker wires are so much snake oil, as far as I can tell.

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I can't hear any benefit with expensive speaker wire and simply don't buy it. In fact, the only cables I spend a bit more for are unbalanced, RCA cables. I buy Monoprice balanced and digital cables which seem fantastic and generally use Monster speaker wire because it is what Best Buy sells and I inevitably need it quickly.

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TAS had an article which praised the superior sound of an expensive digital interconnect. They said it had superior "air" and imaging. They explained that the reason why is that regular (read "inexpensive") interconnects can introduce timing errors into the signal. I did some reesearch om this and learned that the timing errors they were talking about would be on the order of 1/1,000,000,000 (one one-billionth) of a second. Think you could hear that?
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I agree with your point on this. I refuse to buy premium digital cables as well. I struggle to hear a difference even between audio streamed via ethernet vs asynchronous USB. The timing variances get so small that I doubt human senses are capable of perceiving it.

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