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so who thinks this is the wrong place to discuss music?
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but I'll continue posting for anyone whose heartbeat still registers.

bud, you know damn well that you are posting for yourself, you have no audience here. (feel free to take a poll) You are worse than DUP..hell, at least *he* posted about audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

May I ask your motivations for joining this forum?? All you have done thus far is sling mud, garner disdain, and post some Frat wank bank photos.

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... even though you seem to have been trying hard.
The actual site defined direction of this forum is non-audio, but that is not good enough for you.
You seem to think this forum is for you and a small group to occasionally... well actually it's hard to know what you think as you demonstrate so little of it.
Instead you seem to have some kind of all purpose negativity which I have rarely encountered outside of the hard core Palintologist school of idiocy.
No doubt you will reply, but frankly I am beginning to consider you incapable of intelligent discourse.
Which part of America do you live in?
Frankly I don't care as the thought of letting your self inflicted brain death having any influence on me is beyond hilarity.
Over and over it seems that you are incapable of entering into any kind of conversation or debate about the cultural subjects that this place has been set up for and that you prefer to try to lure people into the bottomless (sorry, manmount) hole of your own despair,
Tough luck, I feel pretty sorry for you... maybe... but in actual fact the idea of letting you have a single atom of influence is something that could only fly in Winger County where thought is considered treacherous.
Goodbye, I hope you don't answer any more of my posts as I doubt you can afford the energy drain on your brain.

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Look- the music section is actually in the lower part of the Forum if you want to know. Not that it has to be-and it's not. But here's the thing that you seem completely ignorant of: how socialization actually works!

You get 5-6 guys in a bar who've been friends for a while and what do you hear? Insults, banter, solving the worlds problems, heated arguments-laughing at the whole thing. But in that world, would you just go up and start in on any one for them for their politics, musical preferences- whatever? No! It would be OBVIOUS that they can engage in that kind of back in forth because they are friends and trust each other enough to know it's all in good fun and that opinions are only so much grist for the mill.

I have plenty of friends who are much more conservative than me (middle leaning liberal that I am) and a few way to the left too. Politics, religion (or not) straight or gay, it's all there to throw down on the table, but not one of those topics is so big to break up the friendship. But you don't get there from the first time you hang out. Not even the second or third. You need to prove that what you bring to a discussion and potential friendship actually is worth listening to, adds something to the group, and that you respect each other enough to then be able to fight it out every now and then.

Most of the guys here fit somewhere in that spectrum. I've never met almost any in person, but on some level I'd count them as friends, and I know where the line is for how much BS'ing most will put up with. I also know when certain members sound like they are ready to pop a vessel but actually aren't- they are just being a character and after awhile you know that it's really pretty funny.

But you--- you don't know Jack about anyone here and you're approach is more like a guy going into a bar jonesing for a fight. And now that you have one and basically have been told get the F out, you're all hurt and confused. "What did I do?" you say. Why don't you re-read your first posts and pretend it's in the physical world and you just said the same thing to a group of guys at the bar you've never met before. And now ask yourself- how would that go over? So- there it is.

You want to be a REAL member of the forum and not just a troll looking for negative attention? Then prove it! Add something real to a discussion and act like you would in a real conversation with a group of guys you just met. First impressions are everything and so far you are not in good standing my friend.

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Ouch! I guess that's about as plain as it comes...

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Dave,
On this forum I think we have only one hardcore rightwinger: JIMV.
He probably is a tea party member. He would certainly fit in well with Samra, Sherod, JPMAT and others at the WC.

I think your style when dealing with these types is quite entertaining but unfortunately JIMV has dropped out of sight :-)

I think we may actually have more liberals here and the conservatives tend to be more moderate.

You may find there are more kindred spirits here (eg. like Sox) if you dial it down a notch (at least for awhile)

Please understand dialing it down doesn't mean no cats or hot chick photos,those are always good

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While I do not post very often here, I am pretty active over at Stephen's blog, and I went to two tea party meetings. What has that got to do with music? Or hifi?

Trey

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... I've wandered into abar and found 4 drunks trying to claim to own the world.
Just my opinion of course.
Now if you think conversatuion is so great, you might like to add something to one of the threads I started before I think the alcohol has fogged your mind!
Am I supposed to mark jokes here so that people find it easier to tell when something is funny?
Otherwise it might all seem a bit fast...
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Dave,
On this forum I think we have only one hardcore rightwinger: JIMV.
He probably is a tea party member. He would certainly fit in well with Samra, Sherod, JPMAT and others at the WC.

I think your style when dealing with these types is quite entertaining but unfortunately JIMV has dropped out of sight :-)

I think we may actually have more liberals here and the conservatives tend to be more moderate.

You may find there are more kindred spirits here (eg. like Sox) if you dial it down a notch (at least for awhile)

Please understand dialing it down doesn't mean no cats or hot chick photos,those are always good

Being a somehow ignorant foreigner - at least lingo-wise, I have to ask a question: Is a tea party member one, two or all of the below? (looked it up in Urban Dictionary)

1. A disillusioned group of U.S. citizens that blindly oppose whatever legislative and/or government policy they perceive as being leftist, but said legislation/policy is actually in their own best interest.

2. Unknowing puppets of capitalist corporations and their congressional silent partners used to derail any progressive movement in the US government and/or society.

3.
The Tea Party is having a rally to oppose the middle class tax break for those Americans making $250K/year or less even though 98% of the Tea Party members fall within this category.

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...unfortunately JIMV has dropped out of sight.

Maybe we better send out a search party to make sure he's not dead.

If he doesn't email me within 24 hours, I will operate under the assumption that he is dead.

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Keld, TEA stands for "taxed enough already." It is a spontaneous political movement that is calling for reduced spending and increased responsibility from elected officials, no matter what party they come from. The movement has made it to England, and I bet it works its way over to your neck of the woods as well.

Trey

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It does seem that a number of Americans actually think they have more to worry about from their own government elected to act in the best interests of the people than from the corporations that regularly take them to the cleaners.
That kind of rugged individualism might have had some traction 300 years ago for a people living "wild and free" slaughtering alternately buffalo and Native Americans and buffalo (OK that last bit was just to stir the pot), living on the plains or in the forest, along the rivers or in the high country, but for a population of urbanites it seems ridiculous.
The denial of society, the fear of ordinary people organising to oppose the REAL powers that move people and their lives like pawns on a chess board is something that sets the far right American apart from almost everyone else.
That these very people behave in such a regimented way even down to what words are supposed to be the correct insult for those of a more moderate hue... liberal, socialist... PROGRESSIVE (this month's word du jour), with many of them receiving instructions by email telling them what subjects should be talked about in the coming week to make the politicians seem in touch with the common man is something of such fragility that whenever this is commented on, the rightists (should we call them REGRESSIVES?) seethe and quiver, shake and erupt with strange feverishness froth and words spewing in all directions.

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It does seem that a number of Americans actually think they have more to worry about from their own government elected to act in the best interests of the people than from the corporations that regularly take them to the cleaners.
That kind of rugged individualism might have had some traction 300 years ago for a people living "wild and free" slaughtering alternately buffalo and Native Americans and buffalo (OK that last bit was just to stir the pot), living on the plains or in the forest, along the rivers or in the high country, but for a population of urbanites it seems ridiculous.
The denial of society, the fear of ordinary people organising to oppose the REAL powers that move people and their lives like pawns on a chess board is something that sets the far right American apart from almost everyone else.
That these very people behave in such a regimented way even down to what words are supposed to be the correct insult for those of a more moderate hue... liberal, socialist... PROGRESSIVE (this month's word du jour), with many of them receiving instructions by email telling them what subjects should be talked about in the coming week to make the politicians seem in touch with the common man is something of such fragility that whenever this is commented on, the rightists (should we call them REGRESSIVES?) seethe and quiver, shake and erupt with strange feverishness froth and words spewing in all directions.

Now, THATS the Dave i know , dialing it back

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Keld, TEA stands for "taxed enough already." It is a spontaneous political movement that is calling for reduced spending and increased responsibility from elected officials, no matter what party they come from. The movement has made it to England, and I bet it works its way over to your neck of the woods as well.

Trey

Ah, no. 3 that is. Thx. In my country I'm afraid it pertains to more or less all of us. The bastards in the government keep announcing tax reductions, but it's just as unfair as every idea they ever had. Would anybody here call $20 a month a tax reduction? At the same time the ones making real money save $1000.

TEA party? Sure thing

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And frankly it is the most grindingly boring stuff.
Whether it's the "birthers", the Palindrones, the "deniers" the "creationists" or the plain and (very) simple racists, it all goes back under the umbrella of a handful of organisations primarily (As far as I can see) the Heritage Foundation which spouts like it's John Wayne playing Davy Crocket but is funded by multinational corporations, spent decades defending the tobacco industry, now gets a LOT of money from such as ExxonMobile and is controlled by a group of men determined to turn the clock back 300 years and declare America a white christian theocracy.
It's worse than any conspiracy theory about Monroe and the Kennedys and it thinks it's got a chance of success through threatening to split the Republican Party.
By the way, thanks for the complement (I don't seem to get too many of those round here)!

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Keld, TEA stands for "taxed enough already." It is a spontaneous political movement that is calling for reduced spending and increased responsibility from elected officials, no matter what party they come from. The movement has made it to England, and I bet it works its way over to your neck of the woods as well.

Trey

Yikes!

I thought they were Tea parties...

Taxed Enough Already?

Thems are crazy racist wingnuts acting out a collective tantrum that Strom Thurmond is not President. (Well, even Strom was kind enough to "poll the electorate," so to speak, but I digress...)

Where were the TEA Baggers during the Reagan, Bush I years? Clinton? Bush II?

There was no TEA Party until we had a black President. I know what those TEA baggers are all about.

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I am (almost) speechless.

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Actually, many people trace the TEA party movement to my home state where citizens protested against the proposed income tax in 2001. The people met, spoke, the tax was defeated.

I protested at those as well. And I hated the money that Bush wasted. But then some people, even one here, try to shut up folks they cannot intelligently disagree with by calling them racists. Good luck with that! 8)

But about listening to music, I have been transfering my vinyl Billy Joel to the computer and recently did Streetlife Serenader. I really enjoy the record, some folks say that the two instrumentals are proof that Joel was not ready to record, but given his later interest in classical composing, I tend to think he was stretching rather than coasting. "The Entertainer" is sure a great song though, well recorded and happening.

Trey

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And frankly it is the most grindingly boring stuff.
Whether it's the "birthers", the Palindrones, the "deniers" the "creationists" or the plain and (very) simple racists, it all goes back under the umbrella of a handful of organisations primarily (As far as I can see) the Heritage Foundation which spouts like it's John Wayne playing Davy Crocket but is funded by multinational corporations, spent decades defending the tobacco industry, now gets a LOT of money from such as ExxonMobile and is controlled by a group of men determined to turn the clock back 300 years and declare America a white christian theocracy.
It's worse than any conspiracy theory about Monroe and the Kennedys and it thinks it's got a chance of success through threatening to split the Republican Party.
By the way, thanks for the complement (I don't seem to get too many of those round here)!

My Dad was a professor of Economics and edited a book in the late 60's on corporate ethics (to which he also contributed an article)

He used to say we already were into the era of the corporation as state and that multinational corps. had more power than govts.

Scary how accurate his predictions have been.

A certain part of the right is much better at propoganda than the left, unfortunately.

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Actually, many people trace the TEA party movement to my home state where citizens protested against the proposed income tax in 2001. The people met, spoke, the tax was defeated.

I protested at those as well. And I hated the money that Bush wasted. But then some people, even one here, try to shut up folks they cannot intelligently disagree with by calling them racists. Good luck with that! 8)

But about listening to music, I have been transfering my vinyl Billy Joel to the computer and recently did Streetlife Serenader. I really enjoy the record, some folks say that the two instrumentals are proof that Joel was not ready to record, but given his later interest in classical composing, I tend to think he was stretching rather than coasting. "The Entertainer" is sure a great song though, well recorded and happening.

Trey

I agree, even if I like "The Stranger" more than many of his other discs. I believe I have 10 records with BJ.

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Big Muss once said that fascism should be known as corporatism as it would become the fusing of corporations and the state to run EVERYTHING... although those almost certainly aren't his exact words (SHOCK!).
The part of the right which is good a propaganda is effectively the hired in advertising industry which as a whole perpetuates the myth of the American Dream... and the American way of life.
How much the real string pullers must laugh at the "little people" arguing with each other while the power spirals inwards to the centre.
Still, I can't complain too much (however much certain rightists may feel I already have) as over here we seem to follow a somewhat different path to glory.

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I bought a Squeezebox Duet about 6 months ago and so far I've put about 6,000 "tracks" onto a couple of external drives.
It's become my preferred player for music even when I've just bought a CD!
I really like the quality and flexibility it gives.
Should this subject be discussed under Rants?
I can't see much separation of subjects here but coming from AA I guess I am spoiled for the number of forums there.
I bought my girlfriend a Boom for her bedroom and she loves it.

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Big Muss once said that fascism should be known as corporatism as it would become the fusing of corporations and the state to run EVERYTHING... although those almost certainly aren't his exact words (SHOCK!).
The part of the right which is good a propaganda is effectively the hired in advertising industry which as a whole perpetuates the myth of the American Dream... and the American way of life.
How much the real string pullers must laugh at the "little people" arguing with each other while the power spirals inwards to the centre.
Still, I can't complain too much (however much certain rightists may feel I already have) as over here we seem to follow a somewhat different path to glory.

why are you still going on about the same nonsense? You have been advised about how to get along here, to become a part of the group, yet you continue to ramble on and on... You have not said much audio related(if anything), and I think you are aware that you aren't going to gain any converts..Why not go to one of the thousand political forums and post there? There are forums that cater to all political persuasions.

I guess im a bit perplexed. You have been told by pretty much all the "veteran" posters here that you aren't fitting in well. maybe you enjoy posting , conversing with yourself.

I've only ever had to use the ignore feature once. You are the 2nd. I aint offended, but damn, you remind me of those crackheads I see downtown what with the muttering to yourself, repetitious "content", etc.

perhaps when you get your head out of your 3rd point of contact, something interesting will emerge..but for now, you are appear to be nothing more than a one trick bore.

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I can't see much separation of subjects here but coming from AA I guess I am spoiled for the number of forums there.
I bought my girlfriend a Boom for her bedroom and she loves it.

why didnt you stay there? and please reply in the appropriate thread. thanks. alright..lets make you dissapear.

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I click on reply and write... what else is there to do?

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I don't understand what you find tricky about this fact but I guess you have to either have your own way the whole time or you throw a little tantrum.
OK.

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I bought a Squeezebox Duet about 6 months ago and so far I've put about 6,000 "tracks" onto a couple of external drives.
It's become my preferred player for music even when I've just bought a CD!
I really like the quality and flexibility it gives.
Should this subject be discussed under Rants?
I can't see much separation of subjects here but coming from AA I guess I am spoiled for the number of forums there.
I bought my girlfriend a Boom for her bedroom and she loves it.

I have a Transporter and a squeezebox. That transformed the way I listen to music.
I don't even have a CD player anymore.

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Big Muss once said that fascism should be known as corporatism as it would become the fusing of corporations and the state to run EVERYTHING... although those almost certainly aren't his exact words (SHOCK!).
The part of the right which is good a propaganda is effectively the hired in advertising industry which as a whole perpetuates the myth of the American Dream... and the American way of life.
How much the real string pullers must laugh at the "little people" arguing with each other while the power spirals inwards to the centre.
Still, I can't complain too much (however much certain rightists may feel I already have) as over here we seem to follow a somewhat different path to glory.

why are you still going on about the same nonsense? You have been advised about how to get along here, to become a part of the group, yet you continue to ramble on and on... You have not said much audio related(if anything), and I think you are aware that you aren't going to gain any converts..Why not go to one of the thousand political forums and post there? There are forums that cater to all political persuasions.

I guess im a bit perplexed. You have been told by pretty much all the "veteran" posters here that you aren't fitting in well. maybe you enjoy posting , conversing with yourself.

I've only ever had to use the ignore feature once. You are the 2nd. I aint offended, but damn, you remind me of those crackheads I see downtown what with the muttering to yourself, repetitious "content", etc.

perhaps when you get your head out of your 3rd point of contact, something interesting will emerge..but for now, you are appear to be nothing more than a one trick bore.

Um, he was replying to me, NC.

Dave and I happen to agree on the dangers of unbridled corporatism and I think it's an interesting and appropriate topic for the open bar.

I mean, at least he wasn't attacking you in that post

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I bought a Squeezebox Duet about 6 months ago and so far I've put about 6,000 "tracks" onto a couple of external drives.
It's become my preferred player for music even when I've just bought a CD!
I really like the quality and flexibility it gives.
Should this subject be discussed under Rants?
I can't see much separation of subjects here but coming from AA I guess I am spoiled for the number of forums there.
I bought my girlfriend a Boom for her bedroom and she loves it.

Oh No! I am becoming a serial poster.

Do you have an Iphone or Itouch.

There is an app called Ipeng which allows you to use your Iphone/touch as a remote for squeezebox.
It is very nifty.

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Me too.
I am listening to MUCH more music and generally just leaving it on Random. The strange (sometimes wonderful) alignments it produces is as close as I get these days to a radio show I used to do when I lived up in Noosa.

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... I'm not actually a big fan of Apple products so I actually use the Squeezebox remote.
Unfortunately Logitech don't sell extra receivers here in Australia or I would have already bought another 2 for the dining room and bedroom.

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Me too.
I am listening to MUCH more music and generally just leaving it on Random. The strange (sometimes wonderful) alignments it produces is as close as I get these days to a radio show I used to do when I lived up in Noosa.

If you get Ipeng you can control volume and selection from anywhere in the house through wi-fi.

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But I'd have no means of playing it in the first place!
I need another receiver... the Duet receiver.. and I can use the one remote around the house.
Oh well, with the current models being done away with as we speak, I might pick up something very cheap on eBay.
Damn, it must hurt the rightists to see someone they consider to be dangerously left wing having MONEY, mustn't it?

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I don't understand what you find tricky about this fact but I guess you have to either have your own way the whole time or you throw a little tantrum.
OK.

aint about my way at all, guy. I just want to see you become a member in good standing here rather than being another DUP. thats all there is to it, really.

you posting about audio? about damn time. thats what im talking about. be a whiny ass liberal later.. but ease into it.

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.. let rightists go first... after all they ARE entitled aren't they?
They always seem to think so... now back to audio, even if this forum is supposed to be for other subjects, but what do I care?

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Good point, the conservatives have been so rude and condescending in this thread.

Trey

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