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Because most reviews if read say nothing. They are all involving, blah blah blah. A $45K audio component that is mis wired. Come on, a car for $45K has a lot more parts in it, and when they miss one thing that doesn't hold up like bad coils in a batch of VW/Audis, they rail against the car. What about all the other stuff that works fine. A CD player is a lot less complicated than a high priced car, that has a fit and finish that is art work, electromechanical superbly designed components. A CD only player is a drive some ckt boards a power supply, and they F'd that up, I'm sure they produce so many, yeah riiiight. With that poor QC, it means there is no quality $45K for a CD player is so far out there, it should be beyond flawless (yeah i know it's just a mfg'd thing) The overpriced DEFECTIVE CD player shoulda' been listed as JUNK, an amplifier that costs an exhorbitant amount of money (it's a POWER SUPPLY) and can't meet specs, is junk. Ya can't talk around such glaring DEFECTS, by then saying it's involving, blah blah blah with audiophile bable. The more ya call out junk as junk, the better the mag gets, maybe it will expose some of the absurd NONNSENSE in high priced audio. a CD only player for $45K, and it's a DEFECT!!!! Come on, If you had a $45K car, and the ashtray didn't feel right, you'd complain. That $45K car has all kinds of high end reliable electronics, mechanics, and a CD player too!!! Ya gotta stop sweet talking high priced junk. Like CU mag, it's unacceptable, for such a overpriced consumer audio product to get a write up, that glosses over glaring DEFECTS. Then a $150 universal player, works fine didn't it, no DEFECTS!!! Think about it. If StereoPhile is about the BEST, bring up your standards, don't gloss over, just so they run an ad or two after the review is done. It also used an obsolete, no longer produced chip, from Philips!!!! come on, was this a Lirpa Labs product? If teh Zander at $45K with DEFECTS got good review, what will a DSD/SACD/CD EmmLabs for "only" $10K that uses the latest 21t century ckts, should be tested, and compare side by side sound. An amp that doesn't met published spcs is DEFECTIVE, it was also glossed over, that is unacceptable, one minute every subtle minutia of listening is written about, how this magic outlet gave air, and pace and blah blah blah, verbage of no meaning, yet just gloss over a glaring DEFECT in electrical specs...not good. Never had a mfg comment either, why? you get mfg comments when you glorify some dopey wire or wood block, or LP demagnetizer. Be teh Dateline of audio, 20/20 of audio cons, call a spade a spade..AD did, it brings a lot more credibilty to your pages than how great a wall outlet is in subjective imaginary delusions of wall outlets. You publish a recomended list, why not a not recomended list and why, it will add some energy.

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You continually mention one or two negative examples and then claim the whole industry is crooked.

In that case, in this string alone, one could easily claim you are a thief and liar, a shill etc as you constantly, and willingly ignore PHDs (chemist), CBS engineers, and educational articles suggested.

In otherwards, you do exactly what you claim the "scam" artists do.

It is sad to see someone who continually tries to degrade audio and hurt the consumer because of his own agenda. No wonder we see high end stereo declining, but then that fits DUP's self serving interest.

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Proven wrong everytime, doesn't that suck? YOU might be the one who will be physcologicaly damaged....Ever think of becoming a volunteer for a Pharma companie's mental medication trials. And you can make a few dollars.

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You probably think car salemen are helping you too right? Tara Labs....couldn't be more blatant example of wire fake, fraud etc. changimng stickers on where it was made, so you certainly think they are the only hucksters in wire land. and of course you can hear what audio grade FUSES and wall outlets do riiiight? You think that stuff is for real? Science in action? Or maybe some high end BS. Do you really think a $45K CD ONLY player is being sold to move the audio state of teh art forward? Or just try and fleece some dopes out of their money? Inventing teh Cd, optical disc recording moved the audio world forward, DSD/SACD moved it again...and you can get equipment for a few hundred bucks that show you the advantage of such products...$45K CD ONLY player...I'm sure is sounds better than a SACD/DSD player for $1000. Betcha it don't...how come StereoPhile doesn't run side by side comparisons on these exhorbitantly priced clunkers (miswired) compared to mortal stuff, how they word these reviews borders on such a marketing plan, they make it seem like the thing is so much different than some other player, in reality, they ain't. Creative writing, is what the reviewers learn first. Then MEASUREMENTS show how creative the words of some reviewer is. Why does EMM LAbs claim their SACD single unit player wi like no other? then Zanderfarten is so magical, at 4 times the price, only plays CD/s uses obsolete, no longer in production chips....they really didn't call a spade a spade, they brought out it faults, and brushed them aside. More Art Dudley, we need more spade talk. call it junk if it is. Has MF ever heard anything he thought sucked, I can't recall....He's the Rush Limbaugh of audio, Limbaugh is a shill for Republican crazies, MF touts eveery overpriced thing he touches, and some life changing event. When in fact, it's mediocre, underperforming overpriced slurry. Can't get a $45K CD only player out of my brain, it's mind boggling. And it was crap!!! Hey MF, get teh Zander back, get an Emm Labs CDSA unit do a side by side comparison....let's see some truth in writing

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DUP you're lucky that I'm not the network engineer for Stereophile because I would regulate what is said on this forum. With just a few keystrokes I would delete your username and block your IP address and every time you purchased another ISP I'd block it as well the best that I could.

You don't deserve the platform that you have had at your disposal for the last two years for bashing every Stereophile related reviewer and reviewed object.

Why stay if you haven't got anything beneficial for the group to hear. Everyone here is either fighting you or ignoring you...don't you get it?

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Can't we all just agree with everything? The Mcintosh book i bought cus' of it's writeup in Sterophile...The Benchmark DAC also....JA is probably the only one who brings reality to the pages. You need your own country to RULE, no diagreements, OBEY and conform, you know you will like what is handed to you...or else. Everyonce in a while a reviewer gets it right. I read it every month, it's entertaining, some reviewers are hilarious in what they write that they hear when they listen...If you believe in what they say. About stuff that is so far out of reality, well, that proves how religion keeps taking in new victims, ooops, new members. Pace and rhythm and pace.....how an electrical device can change a mechanical musical parameter always makes me laugh When a reviewer uses that term in describing an electrical device. I think Sterophiel is GREAT, just renewed another 2 years. I really don't think the reviewers believe their own BS sometimes, they can't. It's out there for entertainment. AD renewed my faith for a few more months, PS Audio expensive outlet, junk. More of reality based reviews, is needed. $.70 Leviton or $49 PS Audio grade(no such NEMA device) Listen and be honest, you ain't gonna hear the outlet!!! AD rules, this month

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I bought the McIntosh book (expensive!!!) cus' of the Sterophile writeup. Benchmark DAC too. It lead me years ago to Etude FM tuner from Magnum Dynalab, but alos Meriden, Meriden sucked, sold it got the Magnum Dynalab, yes they did sound different, Etude much much better than Meriden. Stereophile even lead me to VPI brand of TT...i said, sometimes they get it right, but then they get a $100K TT review, it will take years for me to get over that one.....It of course was better than the previous absurdity RockPort, which replaced the previous Yorke....hmmm, sense a pattern of , new brand, new model, stroke it, sell it. The writeup made it seem like you where going from a 78 to an SACd with all the glorius accolades, $100K TT, get real. When teh MKII comes out, I'm sure it will be a stunning upgrade. Entertaining. It's so absurd. Similar to VPI upgrade on parade, they charge $300 for a screw on clamp, absurd.

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I understand, there are scam artists in every field. Over the years, I have seen the shills out there with all their deceptiveness. Put down a competitor and push the friends/clients piece, but be slick about it. I have also seen alot of false claims.

But don't be a one man wrecking crew, destroying the entire industry DUP? And don't make wholesale attacks on tweeks when some are scientifically based. Dismissing experts from RCA, CBS, scientific field etc is rediculous and uncalled for.


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I bought the McIntosh book (expensive!!!) cus' of the Sterophile writeup. Benchmark DAC too. It lead me years ago to Etude FM tuner from Magnum Dynalab, but alos Meriden, Meriden sucked, sold it got the Magnum Dynalab, yes they did sound different, Etude much much better than Meriden. Stereophile even lead me to VPI brand of TT...i said, sometimes they get it right, but then they get a $100K TT review, it will take years for me to get over that one.....It of course was better than the previous absurdity RockPort, which replaced the previous Yorke....hmmm, sense a pattern of , new brand, new model, stroke it, sell it. The writeup made it seem like you where going from a 78 to an SACd with all the glorius accolades, $100K TT, get real. When teh MKII comes out, I'm sure it will be a stunning upgrade. Entertaining. It's so absurd. Similar to VPI upgrade on parade, they charge $300 for a screw on clamp, absurd.

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