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Are you guy's nuts? $3,000 table radio, it doesn't play SACD, but it does DVD/A/V, why would a clock radio play DVD video? Where is it made? If it's China or any other low wage county, it's almost criminal to try and pass off teh $3,000 price....and teh reveiwer goes on a rant about surf, cooking, nothing about the product, for $3K, this is up there with $24K CD players....can Stereophile get some balls and once in a while call something absurdly useless. BLOSE has a tble radio, this makes them look like a bargain, at $399. Which it ain't, but they did fix one i gave for free after it was well out of warranty, they gave an entire new board, well past warranty period, so teh extra price tag served for like an exteneded warranty. But this is RETARDED!!! How much does red paint and plastic cost these days? Where is this thing made? Just curious http://www.stereophile.com/accessoryreviews/408mer/

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You want one, don't you, DUP?

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Wait until he learns it actually produces 725 watts.

He'll need a drool cup.

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Meridian site says it's 80W. But no other specs, it is a dumb product!!! Overpriced to the max, then some, and I don't need to see or hear it. clock radios don't cost $3,000. Even BLOSE wouldn't try that!!!!!! Where is this thing mfg'd? Why is this stuff concisered hi end, it's jsut hi priced, but again the write ups, just glorifys this nonsense. This is not what hi end sound reproduction is about.

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I've always subscribed to Ivor Tiefenbrun from Linn's philosophy. "If you haven't heard it you don't have an opinion." I haven't heard it so I don't have an opinion. But for a smaller system the B&W Zeppelin is pretty killer for about $600.

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You're bad, Stephen. Indeed, a miscreant!

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DUP, Below find a valuable link to your potential happiness. Euthanasia could be the cure for your prolonged, miserable existance. I hope death brings the release you so desperately need. I know you don't want to go on like this.

http://www.finalexit.org/dr.k.html

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I'm happy, do i need to just accept everything pice of over priced crap and go ga ga over some dumb shit? What is this some kind of religion...let's just follow and obey? How bout them foxes in Tx, who where part of the 10 wives per dude in that mental institution? Nice dresses, nice hairdo, all teh same , now that's RELIGION...why is it I must also beleive in crap oer priced stuff...I believe in real stuff from lotsa mfg's shall I list them....you wish you where as happy as me.....falalalala. happy happy happy. What do you think I'm one of teh 7 dwarfs Grumpy, sneeezy, Scratchy, Dopey, Stupid, or unwashed? Or who is the other one....diseased?

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$3,000 in a plasic case, with tiny speakers, is NOT hi end reproduction..just hi priced!!! If you ain't heard it you have no opion? Yeah, that's also illogical, written SPECS is why it's necessary....if you are looking to do a certain job, you would't need to eliminate teh first 100 units that are only say 50 watts when you need to fill a large hall....without written specs before you even give something a place on your list saves you lotsa wasted time...maybe audiophiles have lotsa time to waste in going to "listen" to every nut, fruitcake product, cus' of that mantra....time to get real....They might as well made it $5K....It's a BLOSE with red paint...the BLOSE is a BARGAIN now!!! They just helped BLOSE sell more clock radios. The review was really some inane review, nothing about teh performance of this thing, but talking again about drinking, what he did decades before, come on, audio, hi end audio,hi end audio for mortal people, this is getting more and more like some kind of Martha Stewart stuff. $1,000 straw baskets, and how to turn your drab kitchen into something if you use this crap with my name on it....more like Better Homes and Gardens, fluff stuff with no merit on hi end audio reproduction. This one is a strikeout...$3,000 clock radios, come on. Let's see some Crowns QSC, VanAlstines, Legacys even some pro speaker systems, compared to home stuff, start talking bout the science of audio, not what a red clock radio will do in your kitchen!!! Why no measurements, John on this thing?

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But for a smaller system the B&W Zeppelin is pretty killer for about $600.

Right. I just bought one for my grandson and both of us were pretty impressed with the sound. OTOH, I am happier with the F80 for many reasons. Yes, it is just a table radio/disc player but it is a remarkable one.

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The license fees must be spectacular with the Ferrari name on the label. Which is probably why it's so overpriced, Like buying a Gucci or some other label? What kind of radios are actually in a Ferrari anyway? Panasonic? Why didn't you compare this thing to a BLOSE side by side, BLOSE has some of them 2.1 or surround systems out of only 2 speakers, when BLOSE costs less for some table radios, the world is in Bizzaro mode. KLH sold a pricey table radio years ago.....this is just that idea for the 21st century, with a fancy label that has nothing to do with audio. Ferrari RED. 80W Sanken audio amp chip is a few dollars, where's the other price coming from The logo on front.... Meridian has Jumped the SHARK......

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I wouldn't worry about it too much Dup. It will sell well.

The rest of us can buy abused 1974 sanyo AM only battery powered portables from the local goodwill.

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What kind of radios are actually in a Ferrari anyway?


Usually Alpine.

But if you are driving a Ferrari and you turn on the radio you should be dragged out and fed to a shark.

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I just bought a Logitech G25 FF wheel, and I am playing GTR2 and driving the Ferrari 575 on the BRNO track. I even made a cockpit to sit in. I have music playing quietly in the background. However, the car is turned up quite loud. I get better lap times in it than the Saleen. Finesse wins over brute force and ignorance.

Am I exempted from Shark attack?

Knock Knock! Land Shark!

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It's actually kind of a sad thing.

Imagine how Meridian owners must feel to hear Bob Stuart say, "...our loyal customers have told us that they aren't listening to their big Meridian systems since they bought F80s."

I tell ya, to find out that this baby outperforms your big Meridian system must be a major bummer for those poor owners.

Plus, with Bob saying that about the F80, I guess he's telling us to look elsewhere when considering big Meridian systems, since they can't outperform his new clock radio.

Anyway, another big bummer is that we have to wait until October's issue to see if it gets a class A(+) rating in the new clock radio category!

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It also shows how the BS never ends in audio marketing....not so many years ago, this same guy was telling us how great all his other over priced stuff is/was. BLOSE, Meridian, it's all about the marketing....why do they need the Ferrari logo on a clock radio, if it's so great, cus' they are just selling crap in a fancy case.....$3,000 for a clock radio, even rich people that will or could buy it, after a while feel ripped off? Can the reviewer tell me where this thing is made? And what's so inovative or new or performance influenced that it's worth $3,000? It has 3 tiny speakers, doesn't play SACD...plastic housing? Does any reviewer in Stereophile besides measurements ever come out and say....are you kidding with this crap? Well at least Sam T. did bring it up in his column this month, 3 cheers, finaaly More truth in articles about the BS in aduio marketing...I praise Sam T.

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I agree with DUP. This is a clock radio. This isn't high end. The review of this gadget belongs in Consumer reports and on Cnet not in stereophile.

As far as the price goes, I don't know how flush or stupid one has to be to buy a $3k clock radio. For that kind of money, it would have to tickle my testes every hour on the hour as a phenomenally great looking, model material cuckoo pops out of the ferrari red cover, powered by the choke regulated power supply providing the 80watts needed for the cuckoo to pop out with a french tickler. Yes... let's talk about the control, the shimmer and the transient response. Is the experience going to leave you cold or are you going to get the warm and fuzzies? Class A all the way! Highly recommended! This clock radio is so good, Sam Tellig had a gasp in the middle of his evil laugh, and even MF had to admit that the on again, off again digital may indeed have its merits. JA's measured performance shot way up and John Marks proclaimed that instead of loving things, we should love cuckoos.

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perception is reality.

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http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=wrcd_wave_index

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Henry Kloss pioneered hi fidelity clock radios, didn't he? http://cgi.ebay.com/KLH-Model-21-FM-Vint...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Well, let's hope the Meridian sounds better than the Bose, which sucks IMO. I agree, $3k is ridiculous for this thing. You know how good an entry level system you could put together for that kind of money? Even if it was all about space savings, how about that cool Shanling MC-30 Music Center CD receiver thing with a couple of killer mini monitors? For that price you could even get decent in-wall/ceiling speakers installed and really save some space.

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For that kind of money, it would have to tickle my testes every hour on the hour as a phenomenally great looking, model material cuckoo pops out of the ferrari red cover, powered by the choke regulated power supply providing the 80watts needed for the cuckoo to pop out with a french tickler.

Wow. That is asking a lot.

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Well, $3 grand is a lot of dough. I'm very big on value for my money.

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For that kind of money, it would have to tickle my testes every hour...


ARGH!

Bad images!

Poke out mind's eye with pencil!

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Well, let's hope the Meridian sounds better than the Bose, which sucks IMO. I agree, $3k is ridiculous for this thing. You know how good an entry level system you could put together for that kind of money? Even if it was all about space savings, how about that cool Shanling MC-30 Music Center CD receiver thing with a couple of killer mini monitors? For that price you could even get decent in-wall/ceiling speakers installed and really save some space.

Some of us do not think that Shanling's designs are cool or, even, attractive. But that's not a biggie.(This is not a comment on their performance.)

I replaced a Super-T Amp and and pair of small monitors with the F80 (matches my wife's color scheme) and I am happier with the sound and the appearance.

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Some of us do not think that Shanling's designs are cool or, even, attractive.


Thank you!

I find Shanling over the top, appearing to have been designed by junior high boys in study hall, right after they finished the clown shoe design of the Viper.

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This thread has started to worry me a little.

It seems to be the audio equipment version of a performance automobile enthusiast saying, "The new Buick has a smooth shifting automatic transmission and a quiet ride. The individual climate control allowed my wife to travel comfortably and I was even able to travel without wearing my cardigan and hat."

"The Buick effectively removes any transmission of any road or engine noise, and the cup holders are convenient and plentiful."

"While the Ferrari may have had faster track times, better acceleration, braking, cornering, and overall performance, the Buick is more comfortable and has seats that are much more "ample."

"In fact, the ghost of Enzo Ferrari tells me that loyal customers are switching to the Buick for their time on the track instead of the Ferrari."

"The fact that the new Buick comes with prancing horse on it and is some sort of red color sealed the deal."

Seriously, can anyone but the equivelant of a bunch of old male hens get enthused over Hi Fi clock radios?

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Buddha,

Have you read all the posts in the thread? Clearly Kal Rubinson seems fairly enthused about his Hi Fi clock radio. That being the case what may I make of your question? ... "Seriously, can anyone but the equivelant of a bunch of old male hens get enthused over Hi Fi clock radios?" It would appear the implication for the enthused Hi Fi clock radio owner is less that charitable!

True you didn't say "RETARDED", as in the case of the notoriously simple minded original poster, but even so I'd have to say that the apparent insensitivity does seem out of character. What gives?

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Really, Buddha! I cannot believe you would use such language. With just a little bit of thought and sensitivity, you could have rephrased your statement to

"I can't believe that anyone other than the well respected and regarded senior, domesticated bird like males would get enthused over clock radios. We welcome the diversity of opinion and celebrate it along with the pricey, but totally worth it clock radios sold by honest and well meaning dealers and reviewed by neutral, honest and unbiased boy scout like reviewers. We only hope that we can spread the joy of democracy and clock radios throughout the world."

Would it have killed you to say it like that? Where's Jan? We need to form the circle of judgment!

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Really, Buddha! I cannot believe you would use such language. With just a little bit of thought and sensitivity, you could have rephrased your statement to

"I can't believe that anyone other than the well respected and regarded senior, domesticated bird like males would get enthused over clock radios. We welcome the diversity of opinion and celebrate it along with the pricey, but totally worth it clock radios sold by honest and well meaning dealers and reviewed by neutral, honest and unbiased boy scout like reviewers. We only hope that we can spread the joy of democracy and clock radios throughout the world."

Would it have killed you to say it like that? Where's Jan? We need to form the circle of judgment!

Hey I'm not always inclined to be so polite, it depends upon the respect I have for the party I'm addressing.

By way of illustative contrast let's suppose that I had been addressing you, in that case I'd likely have said something like ... "Hey Alex I see you still get great satisfaction demonstrating to all what an annoying asshole you are".

Hope that helps.

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Hey I'm not always inclined to be so polite, it depends upon the respect I have for the party I'm addressing.

By way of illustative contrast let's suppose that I had been addressing you, in that case I'd likely have said something like ... "Hey Alex I see you still get great satisfaction demonstrating to all what an annoying asshole you are".

Hope that helps.

This is exactly the type of language that I was helping Buddha to avoid. With a little thought, that statement can be rephrased to: "I see you get great satisfaction demonstrating what a thought provoking sage you are and sharing your views of the world."

You see? It's not hard. Just a little thought goes a long way, which is exactly the point I tried to convey.

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We need to form the circle of judgment!


Something tells me you don't hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

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Actually, I was trying to tease all of us.

We are a group of predominantly men who:

1) Spend large amounts of time chasing an audible glamor, where the dominant paradigm is that no expense or sacrifice is too great.

2) Predominantly deny that how cute a piece of gear is matters to us.

3) Fit the middle aged demographic (a generalization.)

4) Have termendous tempests whirl through our teapot over whether or not pieces of wire "sound" significantly different from one another, or whether or not three pieces of thread closed into a window sill can affect the sound of our listening room or system.

5) Claim to have a performance bias that rules uber alles.

And then, we start discussing the relative merits of a mid-centruy modern teapot sort of thing (with a prancing horse decoration taken as a sign of implied quality) that costs 3,000 dollars and functions at the level of a kitchen appliance so we can, what, squeeze some extra bit of supra-kitchen-level performance out of a damned clock radio while we sip espresso!

Serriously. At that point, give a thousand bucks (industry accomodation pricing) to Habitat for Humanity and go turn on the Hi Fi!

Plus, it doesn't play vinyl. Not even a danged phono-preamp!

Do they at least make a matching prancing horse sculpture phone?

(Plus, plus, this post and the previous one are total goofs, just in case it t'weren't clear. Although, I think I recall from Revelations that prancing horse fire engine kitchen counter appliance radios selling for 3 grand a pop are a rather definitive sign that the end times are upon us.)

One last question: In all seriousness, it would be fascinating to know the history of this review's history. You know, who came up with the, "I know, let's review a three thousand dollar Ferrari clock radio," and how that idea coalesced into an actual review and just how many of these "system killers' have taken up residence in the listening lives and homes of Stereophile-land? The "process of this review" would be killer interesting!

It came in April...did that have anything to do with it?

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Buddha,

I don't fit any of those generalizations and categories you describe. I'm a demonstrative, annoying asshole. Please include that category in the next survey.

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I'm a demonstrative, annoying asshole.

And a horrible karaoke singer.

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Buddha,

My bad... I've made the required mental note that when you say "seriously", or "In all seriousness" that I'm to understand the antipode.

Now in all seriousness I'm not entirely surprised that one can be very satisfied with a Hi Fi Radio. When it comes to an audiophile's main system it's all about potential, stick on fantastic recording and that potential is fulfilled, but stick on a mediocre recording and it's bound to disappoint at least to a degree.

Yet when listening to a Hi Fi radio, or in the car, expectations change, it's more casual and many (myself included) becomes much more tolerant of shortcomings in sound quality.

Now when you add unexpectedly good sound quality into the mix I imagine it results in something akin to the best of both worlds. Personally I can see myself being interested in something roughly equivalent to a Hi Fi Radio but for usage in a car. I have a long comute and would say that on a weekly average spend more time listening in the car than to my system. I enjoy listening in the car and don't fuss over sound quality. However if I could buy something, stick it in the back window perhaps, and yield much better sound quality the audiophile in me tells me I'd really appreciate it.

Would I pay $3,000? Hmmmm...? let me think ... [clunk, clunk]... well I do do a lot of listening in the car... I buy most stuff used... I could probably live without the prancing horse (would be nice though!) ... maybe! and seriously if I did I certainly wouldn't give a hoot what some cantankerous crackpot net warrior bitch had to say about it (No! No! Not you! Seriously!)

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Although, I think I recall from Revelations that prancing horse fire engine kitchen counter appliance radios selling for 3 grand a pop are a rather definitive sign that the end times are upon us.)


Yes, the Four Prancing Horses of the Apocalypse.

If I recall correctly, they are lavender.

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I'm a demonstrative, annoying asshole.

And a horrible karaoke singer.

Now, that just hurts and it's completely uncalled for!

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Yes, the Four Prancing Horses of the Apocalypse.

If I recall correctly, they are lavender.

Well, then, I feel a little bit more safe. The four Meridian clock radio horsemen would evidently be white, red, yellow, and chrome.

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I'm a demonstrative, annoying asshole.

And a horrible karaoke singer.

Now, that just hurts and it's completely uncalled for!

True. I will now ban myself from this thread.

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and seriously if I did I certainly wouldn't give a hoot what some cantankerous crackpot net warrior bitch had to say about it (No! No! Not you! Seriously!)

Well put, bjh.

To quote Elvis: "I used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused."

We live in this crass, materialistic culture (which I love, btw), worship the rich and famous and then tear down all their expensive toys as symbols of squandered, misspent, undeserved fortune. The oft-repeated, self-righteous rants against expensive audio products in these threads come from envy and ego and have nothing to do with the intrinsic worth or perceived value of the objects themselves.

Our culture and its lack of true spirituality fears death, which prompts the superego to construct a false reverence of the material world, as if we can hold onto life that way. Youth worship is also a manifestation of this turmoil in our psyche. Old equals death: BAD! Fulfilling the body's need for sensation sublimates the fear- temporarily. The rich seem able to suspend mortality with their power in the marketplace, but this too is illusory. Their fall from grace is faster and harder. "When ya got nuthin', ya got nuthin' to lose."

The irony in this forum is that these battles are not fought out of awareness, but childish jealousy over things we envy, yet assert are not worth having.

Kal Rubinson has a little tabletop gadget that, apparently, completely overachieves its design parameters. Anything that does that is cool, whether we can afford it or not.

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A what for WHAT??!!?!?!?? Oh this is as good as it gets! I read the review and I must say I'm a little dissapointed. No word on the "soundstage" or the "image depth" or anything. Oh silly me! the speakers are only a few inches apart! You'd have to strap it onto your head to get a stereo image.

Hmm, how can it be any good unless it's plugged into a mains conditioner with a gold plug?

What about the internal speaker cabling? I hope it's all in bi-amped, directional, oxygen depleted , braided (dreadlocks of course) EMR shielded, RF shielded, ultra pure, linear, silver wonder cable!

That's what I'd want in my $3000 clock radio.

This radio reminds me of this product.

http://www.blingh2o.com/

$455 for a six pack.

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and seriously if I did I certainly wouldn't give a hoot what some cantankerous crackpot net warrior bitch had to say about it (No! No! Not you! Seriously!)

Well put, bjh.

To quote Elvis: "I used to be disgusted, now I'm just amused."

We live in this crass, materialistic culture (which I love, btw), worship the rich and famous and then tear down all their expensive toys as symbols of squandered, misspent, undeserved fortune. The oft-repeated, self-righteous rants against expensive audio products in these threads come from envy and ego and have nothing to do with the intrinsic worth or perceived value of the objects themselves.

Our culture and its lack of true spirituality fears death, which prompts the superego to construct a false reverence of the material world, as if we can hold onto life that way. Youth worship is also a manifestation of this turmoil in our psyche. Old equals death: BAD! Fulfilling the body's need for sensation sublimates the fear- temporarily. The rich seem able to suspend mortality with their power in the marketplace, but this too is illusory. Their fall from grace is faster and harder. "When ya got nuthin', ya got nuthin' to lose."

The irony in this forum is that these battles are not fought out of awareness, but childish jealousy over things we envy, yet assert are not worth having.

Kal Rubinson has a little tabletop gadget that, apparently, completely overachieves its design parameters. Anything that does that is cool, whether we can afford it or not.

Nice! Performance art or credo?

Isn't an audiophile mocking a clock radio an example of one crazy person being able to recognize the insanity of another crazy person?

At what point can someone criticize a "ridiculous" product (if this is one)and have it not be out of "jealousy?

What if we could buy one if we wanted to, but regarded an item as too crazy, even in the context of our own insanity?

Is it still envy?

As an audiophile, I do have another question...

Why does an audiophile company like Meridian need to paste a prancing horse onto a product in the first place?

Did they come up with this baby and say, "You know, for only an extra thousand, we could paint it red and throw a silver horsie on this baby and really make it sound good?

Is this a Hi Fi product?

That's a great question you allude to.

Is liking this product really just the Hi Fi version of slumming?

My answer would be that if it can get a chick (since I lean that way, but the converse is perfectly fine) to take her shirt off...it's legit.

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OTOH, I am happier with the F80 for many reasons. Yes, it is just a table radio/disc player but it is a remarkable one.

Kal

How much did you pay for it?

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OTOH, I am happier with the F80 for many reasons. Yes, it is just a table radio/disc player but it is a remarkable one.

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How much did you pay for it?

Don't ask that, you'll be called a hater.

That is a verboten subject.

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Nice! Performance art or credo?

Buddha, You are the ham that rocks the credo!

Sorry.

A too expensive product is usually judged in relation to other pieces that are similar. If this is the best "clock radio" in the world and performs in a league of its own, what is too expensive if you want it and are willing to part with the cash? I don't know the answer, but I'm willing to admit $3K approaches the limit.

I don't sweat the high cost of expensive pieces, since they are out of my league. I sweat the budget stuff and try to achieve performance above the price point. But calling the Meridian F80 a "plastic clock radio" is like calling Scarlett Johanssen a broad.

Contention and criticism is okay. It's indifference that is dangerous.

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I have meditated, I have dug deep into my psyche. I have consulted my ego, my superego, my hyperego and Minime. I have talked about my childhood, being breastfed by my mother, my issues with my father and being rocked to sleep as a baby. I have turned over every unturned stone, I have peeked inside every crack and crevice of the dark side of my psyche. I have explored the unexplored and I have shined the light where the light don't shine.

Having completed this exhaustive search, having examined the artifacts and analyzed the results, I can honestly say, while looking straight into your eyes, without any hint of reservation that I am NOT, and I repeat, NOT jealous of those who own the $3,000 clock radio.

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Jealous of a "clokc radio" ownership? No, entertained that it can be written up with such acolades and flair...how it realtes to something 3,000 miles away decades ago. And yet there is no real talk about it's performance with measuremnts etc, relating to what it is a RADIO, a CD player and a time piece.....If I wanted it, I could buy it, yes i could afford it, but I am not that gullible, it's a clock radio with a licensed Ferrari logo that probleaby makes Ferrari lotsa money, and I'm sure they whre involved in it's design...just like they design mugs and token gifts with the logo on it. Let's see some THD specs, freq response etc, put it through the same tests that some other $3,000 pre amp or amplifier or speaker would get....Does it have an accurate time piece, where is all the stuff made? Maybe a nioce generic Chinese time chip? Display is what a generic display found in $5 clocks? For $3,000 this should be in teh review, not talk about some obsfurcated memorys...man, talk about a marketing ploy....nothing related to audio here...it's Martha Stewart...it's better homes and gardens. Stereophile has "jumped the shark"!!!! Next month.....will we see speaker feather duster, optimized for cleaning audio dust. Back to my original remark, just once, call something dopey, over priced, useless. I can't wait for the Bugati tv with built in surround...Buggati is major levels above a mere Ferrai...Veyron 1001HP watches...$5,000. QVC/Stereophile, can't tell them apart

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Kal, can you elaborate on "remarkable"....the article really didn't make it clear. No measurments to let the reader see how "remarkable" it is. It's an FM radio....it doesn't even have Sirius....this is the 21st century....it's obsolete ya know. No SACD.

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....it doesn't even have Sirius....


Fortunately.

Even on a cheap car system the artifacts of satellite radio are unbearable.

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They are made bearable by the super stellar performance of the ferrari red clock radio on your kitchen counter right next to your space saver microwave oven.

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