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Having a bad day...not only is my turntable fighting me, but my DVD player quit....
Yes, the spindle should rotate with the platter and the record. Is it time for a new belt?
The belt spins the platter but the spindle, passing through the platter spins not at all...How do I fix that or can I?
Would getting aggressive with a vice grip be wise?
Never get aggressive with a turntable ! !
The best place to ask your question is here :-http://www.thorens.com/contact/contact.html
Once you grip the spindle and the spindle is not moving with the platter, then you are creating friction with the platter and the record clamp/spindle. Something is surely amiss.
Also, the record itself at the center hole is going to cause drag with the center spindle if not rotating with the platter. A undersize record hole would cause some serious drag on the platter.
The problem is that those tables (I believe) are made for Thorens by the folks who make the Dual tables. You may have better luck with them.
I am thinking back to my old 1209 and the stacking spindle did not turn with the table and there was a short center spindle (the only one I used) for playing single discs, but it would come out very easily and easily rotate inside the platter hole. The only one that locked was the tall stacker spindle.
Did your table work properly before the addition of the clamp? Would it play records properly?
Sort of...ie; the improvement over the play with the old cartridge improperly aligned and the new one properly aligned was so vast that other issues settled way into the background. Once I got used to vinyl sounding good, I began to find other, smaller problems, like the rattle in the turntable.Removing the plastic part from under the platter solved that but there is still room for improvement.
The turntable now sounds better than a CD played through my Sony under $100 DVD player in the same system.
The question remains...is the spindle supposed to rotate freely as it does on 99% of turntables? Thorens tech support did not know but they are looking into it (the tech that responded to my question was unfamiliar with the model I have)
Hi, JIMV, this has been vexing me so much, it entered my dreams.
It is a fixed spindle model, which in and of itself, harkens back to olden days. It's not that big of a deal, the platter bearing is just designed/built around it being fixed, so no troubles there.
However, as Jim pointed out, a smaller center hole on an LP could actually "grind" against the spindle and conceivably alter you speed stability.
For a clamp, you'll have to go "gravity" style and not clamp-style.
If that effing thing (I'm pissed at your table for the grief it has given you) has the torque, you may be able to mate it well with a gravity clamp and preipheral ring.
NFS Audio posted about a brand he found, TT Weights .
VPI makes a pricey one, as well, and also also maybe this one might be cool.
Thorens tech staff is only going to get back to you to tell you the spindle is fixed in place.
Thanks, that sounds like the consensus opinion and it sounds pretty good...I did manage to pry the red stylus off my old Ortofon 2M red and upgrade to a blue....only drew blood once.