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Hello, I am looking to upgrade my stereo setup and am wondering where to start. With a budget of around $2000, should I go all in for a nice pair of speakers in that price range or split it up for a decent receiver and decent pair of speakers? Let me describe what I have so far. My parents moved overseas and I basically inherited the stereo I bought for them in 2015, something basic because they hadn't bought a new stereo since the 80s.

Yamaha RX-V377 Receiver
Polk TSi300 Speakers
Polk PSW505 Sub

I like the HDMI inputs/ARC output of the receiver for easy connections with my TV, but don't really have an interest in 5.1/7.1 sound. I listen to a lot of music as well via my music hall mmf 1.5 turntable / schiit mani preamp so I'm looking for something that would be good with movies as well as music.

I wouldn't mind going with a separate power amp but have had a hard time finding a preamp/processor that is reasonably priced to handle all of the inputs I would want which would be mostly HDMI, plus an rca for my turntable. The Marantz NR1200 seems to have most of what I would want for inputs and does have pre outs as well, so I've been tempted to go that route. I'd have the option of using a power amp too which would allow me to go with more potential speakers (the Yamaha has no pre out).

The hardest thing I've been dealing with is the space that I currently have for my speakers. The room they are going in is large but due to door placements along one wall, I only have around 7ft of space total for the speakers to go, one being in the corner of the room, with a listening distance of around 12-14ft from the speakers. We are talking about walling in a window and redoing the room which would give me plenty of space, but I don't know if or when we'll be able to do that.

Anyways, TL:DR

Marantz NR1200+~$1000 speakers or ~$2000 speakers? Some I've considered are the Goldenear Triton 5, Revel Concerta 2 F35/36 and the Dali Oberon 5s.

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Considerations

- Consider all of your use cases and media you will be enjoying before making ANY decisions.
- If you are satisfied with the way your surround sound system does movies, keep it -- no need to replace.
- If you have the space, consider building a separate, additional 2-channel system. In my experience, two-channel music is better through an integrated amp than an AVR.
- Audition speakers until you find the ones you love and then match them with an integrated amp that drives them properly.

You could also look at a cost effective modular design and add components as needed (and as budget becomes available). Take a look at all of the options Emotiva offers. Start with a 2-channel system, then add a pre/pro and a multi-channel amp. (Can also do the same with Marantz, but will cost more.)

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And do it well. Good previous advice. My take would be to spend the 2 grand on the best speakers (to your ears) that you can afford and plan the other stuff such as an integrated amp with hdmi? later. I would suggest auditioning the Monitor Audio Silver 300. The danger in low spending on amps AND speakers is you won't be as happy as you would be by starting with just an significant speaker upgrade.

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thank you, yes I think I'm

thank you, yes I think I'm going to do the speakers first. one thing I didn't mention before is that I have a separate emotiva amp I use with my turntable and I'm pretty happy with it. I've looked at the Monitor Audio speakers and they do look very nice to me, though nowhere very close to me carries them. There's a place where I could demo the Revels but that's about it. The Wharfedale Evo 4.4's look nice to me as well so still undecided for now

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The Amplification Long Game

I'd be interested in your expereince with the Revel Concerta F36. The Performa 3 F206 is worth listening to even if you can't afford it. To say that you did.

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Amplification Continued

Because you have movies/surround sound factors to integrate, a different approach then usual Audiophile parameters is needed. I would suggest starting with a better receiver that can work later with outboard amplification. An integrated amp with hdmi would not meet your complete needs. If another $2,000 is the limit you might do critical listening of the Denon 6500 or the Marantz 7015. Try to do this with speakers you are familiar with if you can or it be complicated to tell how much benefit is the receiver and how much the speakers. I’ve heard the 6500, but not the 7015. The Denon has a detailed treble and mains but, to my ears, was a little lean in the bass. I’ve read that the Marantz has a warmer sound which might more evenly flesh out the bass.
Because you have a multi-speaker arrangement, a separate pre/pro to handle that PLUS 5-7-9-11 speakers amplification would be very expensive. Getting improvements in stages over time would eventually get you there. Next steps of a 2-3 channel amp for the front mains and center speaker. That would give you robust and cleaner power while not drowning out the center during movies and multi-channel concerts. That may be enough with the existing amplification of the receiver being sufficient for surround and Dolby Atmos duty. Anthem (MCA 325) and especially Parasound (A31) make fine 3 channel amps but if that is too much coin Emotiva makes a good 3 channel XPA3 Gen 3 amp that might be more within reach. Beyond your 3 fronts, I would argue that a followup multi-channel amp would not need to be equally as strong as the front 2-3 channel setup.
Thomas Norton at Soundandvision has been hooking up amps for review to receiver such as the Denon 6700 receiver and has been pleased with the performance in pre/pro mode.

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I think I'm going to try and

I think I'm going to try and demo the F35s/F36s this weekend and see what I think. Also, I don't have a surround setup, and I mention specifically that I have little interest in going with more than a 2.1 system. Since I do have a sub I was thinking maybe the F35s would be fine, but I'll listen to both and see!

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Oopsie!

My apologies. I misread wwhat you said and what you didn't. Good hunting!

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Save your money

chriseggroll

It will be another 5-10 years before the accumulation of trivial annual improvements adds up toa meaningful improvement.

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If HDMI is just a requirement

If HDMI is just a requirement for easy connection of your TV for audio, why not go optical out of your TV (if it has one) into optical in of a good amp? Doing this means you could choose a very nice 2 channel amp and not to do battle with the sonic issues associated with many HTRs. It's the way I have my TV set up - it supports optical out / optical pass through - so I just run that into the back of my amp and no multi-channel HTR required.

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I can tell you what I just

I can tell you what I just did nearly same predicament. My budget was $3500 for a 2 channel setup, and instead of integrating into the existing TV set up I opted to get the new Cambridge Audio Evo (streaming amp) take the former TV 5.1 down to 2 channel. This eliminates my gigantic floor standing Klispch left and right, the ginormous Klipsch center channel that weighs 100 lbs at least and the Denon 9 series AVR. Simplifies everything. I have 1 integrated amp with a TV HDMI input, and a blue ray that plays anything shiny. Literally 2 components. I just purchase JBL L36 completely restored ground up that sound freaking incredible to my ear, (I favor vintage 3 way speakers always have) added a Cambridge Audio 200W sub and came in about $20 under budget. I lean HiFi over TV so it made sense for me and my room is 12 x 18 I dont actually need 5.1 its cool but Id much rather have HiFi.

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I should add I really really

I should add I really really really wanted the Kef R3 speakers but at 2K it blew my budget and Im extremely happy with the JBLs.

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