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You actually believe it's your industry

Well, it's your industry to the extent that you're part of the pro audio industry. In the neighborhood where I live anyone who is unfamiliar with Geoff Kait, Peter and May Belt and their products, you know, Brilliant Pebbles, the Clever Little Clock, Silver Rainbow Foil, Cream Electret, and the Clever Little Clock and the Teleportation Tweak other high end audio products such as Schumann Frequency Generators, Mpingo Discs, Green Pen, Shakti Stone, Shakti Hallographs, SteinMusic Harmonizer, Argent Room Lens, Franck Acoustic Resonators (aka tiny little bowl resonators), mu metal, Nordost anti static spray, Essence of Music CD treatment! Shun Mook Cable Jacket, Marigo VTS Dots and negative ion guns has been living in a cave for the last 30 years. The war is over time to come out and join the party. As things stand you're no more a part of high end audio than my Aunt Sally and are obviously a troll for the pro audio industry.

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MG Audio store, TuneLand Forum, RoomTune Product

There ya go geoff, that's a little better. The 30 year thing is kinda stupid, along with the other trolling but it's good that you mention products. Even though some of these products you've never used, and others you've not been able to use because you don't have a stereo. Even though this is the case I think it's good to list things for people to think about trying.

I don't know who Aunt Sally is, but here's a link to some of my high end audio stores (MG Audio since 1981) products over the years.

http://tuneland.techno-zone.net/t317-mg-audio-reminiscing-the-store

Sorry the list is incomplete, I'll get around to adding more and also show folks who are interested some of the match-ups.

And here's some of our clients systems.

http://tuneland.techno-zone.net/t249-a-look-at-tunable-systems

Readers might make note that these systems include about every tweek product in the history of high end. I don't know if any use geoff's or not but you can visit geoff's website and order whatever you want to I'm sure. Same with May & Peter Belt's products or any of the products geoff mentioned.

If any of you wish to join TuneLand and post your systems as you see some of the other members here doing we welcome you and look forward getting to know you. As you look through the products & systems you'll notice many of these have been reviewed by Stereophile & TAS. In fact some of them belong to some of the reviewers. MGA/RoomTune along with MG Audio my listening salons have proudly been a part of high end audio since the early 80's.

On TuneLand you'll find many reviews on our audiophile products, and maybe more important visits people have made to TuneVilla (an all tunable home featuring 18 music zones) my studios, concert halls and our Tunable Rooms.

however to be fair

You may want to ask May & Peter about their listening facilities and Geoff Kait about his Portable cassette players that he has been working on and introduced to Stereophile's forum almost a year ago. Readers might also want to read the threads that May & geoff have been participating on. I'm sure they would be more than happy to talk about their systems as well as give advice on their products and also how to tweak your systems in their very unique way.

tuning

As you do read these threads you'll see my focus on audio being variable and the methods we us to tune them. We don't want to marginalize the "fixed" tweaks as May & geoff suggest we do. However we do believe that the audio signal and soundstage is a vast playground with many opportunities to explore. Variable tuning and TuneLand is all about that exploring from the recorded live room to your listening chair. Nothing in this hobby is more important than your personal concert hall, and where you decide to take your music, and where that music decides to take you.

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Products yet again

Mg :-
>>> “as well as give advice on their products and also how to tweak your systems in their very unique way.” <<<

Michael. I have already told you why I don’t post about our products. I will tell you again in case you have forgotten so quickly. I follow certain guidelines for manufacturers being allowed to participate in general chat forums and I don’t wish to show disrespect to Stereophile by breaking those guidelines and constantly ‘posting about our own products or techniques’.

YOU obviously have never read Ariel Bitran’s “Note to manufacturers”.

>>> “The Stereophile forum is not to be used by manufacturers as a pulpit to promote their products or discredit the products of others.” <<<

I, personally, do not promote our products on Stereophile and nor do I discredit the products of others !!

If I challenge anything you do at all, Michael, it is on your claim that your “variable tuning” is THE answer and on your claim that your “variable tuning” is THE method. As opposed to them being just ONE of many answers and methods !!

Mg:-
>>> “you'll see my focus on audio being variable and the methods we us to tune them. We don't want to marginalize the "fixed" tweaks as May & geoff suggest we do. However we do believe that the audio signal and soundstage is a vast playground with many opportunities to explore.” <<<

You DO marginalize “fixed” tweaks as soon as you claim that your “variable tuning” is THE answer and that your “variable tuning” is THE method !! The capital letters of THE which you have used means ‘the one and only’.

A “vast playground with many opportunities to explore” ??? Don’t tell me, Michael, that at long last you are ACTUALLY finally admitting that ‘variable tuning’ is NOT “THE” answer, that ‘variable tuning’ is NOT “THE” method (which is what you HAVE claimed) but are only ONE answer and ONE method of MANY “opportunities to explore” ????????????

Yipee !!!! We are actually getting somewhere !! NOW, let’s bring into the discussion SOME of these “other opportunities” shall we !!

Regards,
May Belt,
PWB Electronics.

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sorry May, your trolling

may said

"Geoff using mockery and I use the method of challenging their replies", internet "sparring"

mg

Sorry May not this time. Been down this spin with you too many times. http://www.stereophile.com/content/note-manufacturers-2

Says nothing about showing your system! Notice how I said that without yelling at you. JA also allows the Stereophile members a lot of room for expression.

May if you were doing things out of respect, you would be respectful and not troll the audio forums. If you were a stereo-phile you would be promoting audio and your system enthusiasically. Audiophiles are stereo enthusiast. There is nothing in the rules that suggest you May Belt, not show your system, or link to it.

Stereophile doesn't want people to come here and make the forum look like an ad. I work with this by linking to my website/forum when I am asked about my product or system. I speak in terms of the method of tuning. People can go to my site and see exactly what I do in real time, you haven't even shown your system here or anywhere.

sorry, your just trolling, and trolling by yelling at others

that's disrespectful, deceiving and misleading others

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The Great Carnac

All of this jibber jabber is coming from the guy who claims he can tell what a system sounds like by looking at a photo of the room or by seeing what someone lists as his system. That's probably one of the biggest differences between pro audio dudes and advanced audiophiles, actually, that advanced audiophiles aren't blinded by some room configuration, the brand names or prices of system components or the media involved. Now, if someone wants to pass himself off as the Great Carnac and claim to know what a system sounds like through some sort of mental telepathy that's fine with me. In TunnelLand's world eveything is predictable and known. In the advanced audiophile's world, on the other hand, things are not so predictable and set in their ways at all. Eveything is not known in the advanced audiophile's world and progress is made through careful analysis and discovery. Problems are identified and solutions are found. You know, just like in real Science. Not some contrived, self taught, self perpetuating house of cards.

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Geoffy Doesn't Know Real Science

Can't do a simple scientific comparison...

Geoffy wrote...

"Take a cable with a black jacket and listen to it so younger [sic] an idea what it sounds like. Then wrap the outside of the black jacket say 1/4 the length with WHITE electrical tape. Listen to the cable again. You should be able to hear the sound is better with the white tape around the jacket."

Go back to http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/project_scientific_method.shtml and read where you went wrong here.

Are you smarter than a 5th Grader, Geoffy?

Nope.

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It's......

.....also probably why geoff doesn't have an in-room stereo system at all. That's correct folks who are reading geoff kait comments. Geoff hasn't had a stereo system in over 8 years. He makes internet trolling comments based on nothing cause he has nothing. Technically geoff is not even in the high end audio hobby, just likes trolling others who are.

Geoff moved on from in-room systems over 8 years ago, headphone systems over a year ago, and now listens to ear phones and a Portable Sony Walkman Cassette player from the 80's. To which when asked about this as a serious system, he replied no.

Of course geoff is still here to troll these forums. Kind of our own Stereophile audio jester as some have refered to him as.

Oh well listening moves on.

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There is no joy in Mudville. The mighti

If you mean by jester someone who has a sense of humor, you are correct, sir! Unlike yourself, who's proven to be a dour, uninformed liar. Maybe you can pick up Jokes for the John or something. In case case, please attempt to be just a little more entertaining and jovial as I tire of your year long tirade. Have a nice hair day,

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There is no joy in Mudville. Pretty Boy has struck out.

If you mean by jester someone who has a sense of humor, you are correct, sir! Unlike yourself, who's proven to be a dour, uninformed liar. Maybe you can pick up Jokes for the John or something. Be that as it may can I make a suggestion? Try to be a little bit more entertaining and jovial as I tire of your year long sourpuss tirade. As usual, everything's topsy, turvy. Me topsy, you turvy.

Have a nice hair day,

Geoff Kait
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question for Geoff and May

Hi Geoff & May

Do either one of you have a stereo system?

We see a lot of comments coming from the both of you on stereo, yet we don't know if you even have stereos. I'm mean real stereos, not some portable cassette players with earphones. Lets invest our time on the tittle of this forum, Stereophile.

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I get the sense you're mocking my system

Michael, no need for sarcasm or snarkiness. You are not the arbiter of sound or the arbiter of what a system should be composed of or any such thing. I have described in detail my previous audio already. You know, the one with the modded Oppo and the Sennheiser 600s and the pure Class A tube headphone amp. Hel-looo! And I have described my current portable systems in detail. Many times. You know, the Sony Cassette Walkman with Sony ultralight headphones and Sony CD Walkman with Sony Ultralight headphones. You remember now? The World's Lowest Mass System. Eat more fish. Take some Ambien. Feel better.

There are many reasons to have a very small portable Cassette or CD system. We've been through this before many times but I will summarize briefly for your benefit. There is no room to interfere with the sound. There is no house AC power to distort and corrupt the sound. There are no power cords to distort the sound. There are no bulky speaker cables or interconnects to distort the sound. There are no speakers with big magnetic structures to distort the sound. There are no circuit no boards to vibrate. There is no metal chassis to vibrate. There are no transformers to corrupt and distort the sound. There are no large capacitors to distort the sound. There is no large CD transport motor to distort the sound. Most portable players have their own built in vibration isolation system, you know, so you can walk while playing them. Hel-loo!

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Geoff:

I am interested to learn more about your modded Oppo..which model was it, and what were the modifications?

I seriously considered Oppo before changing my mind and going the different route of NAD 516 as just a transport, to my Bryston DAC.

Best Regards,

Ron

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My modded Oppo
rrstesiak wrote:

Geoff:

I am interested to learn more about your modded Oppo..which model was it, and what were the modifications?

I seriously considered Oppo before changing my mind and going the different route of NAD 516 as just a transport, to my Bryston DAC.

Best Regards,

Ron

Excellent, now we're getting somewhere! The Oppo was the 103 and mods were done by Ric Schultz at Electronic Visionary Systems. The mods he did were all the digital mods and all the analog mods, which included super clock, the uniquitous Audio Magic Pulse Gen ZX, the linear power supply from OPPOMODS including the big honking toroidal transformer that was the subject of my mu metal and cork experiments a couple years ago. The generic Linear Power Supply capacitors were replaced by Panasonic caps by Ric. Extensive mods by your humble scribe included special ceramic tiles and spring iso system using heavy masses and special cryo'd high carbon springs of my own design for the modded Oppo 103, extensive use of WA quantum chips, mucho PWB Electonics devices such as cream electret, various foils, AC power corrector and colored magnadiscs, constrained layer damping of my design for the CD transport mechanism, also for the transformer and the top plate of iso stand, extensive use of 3M AB5100S EMI/RFI absorbing material, Marigo VTS dots (dampers) on all capacitors, mumetal on the steel chassis ( ! ), Animal Magnetism cable collars on power cord and interconnects, cover removed and replaced with clear flexiglass, Dark Matter for tray on top of color coded dots (Codename Turquoise) for the tray. Also should probably mention silver plated Acme Audio duplex wall outlet, my own Tru Tone Duplex Cover for the wall outlet, corked all circuit boards with my Quark! music cork. Another overlooked thing I did with my Oppo is to use mu metal and 3M AB 5100S to cover all of those tiny ribbon connectors found inside modern components.

Cheerios,

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Holy Sh!t

Geoff:

That is a very extensive and serious mod to an already great player..

In a few words, could you describe the changes in sound you noticed after the mods?

And yes, now we are getting somewhere! Thanks for your detailed reply.

Best Regards,

Ron

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Changes?
rrstesiak wrote:

Geoff:

That is a very extensive and serious mod to an already great player..

In a few words, could you describe the changes in sound you noticed after the mods?

And yes, now we are getting somewhere! Thanks for your detailed reply.

Best Regards,

Ron

I wouldn't call the stock Oppo a great player but it's difficult to quantify these things. The various mods and tweaks to the Oppo affect the sound in a number of ways, honestly I do not sit down and evaluate every single mod, that would be impossible. What we strive for, you could say, the reason I do these mods and tweaks is to retrieve to the maximum extent possible or feasible the information that is already on the discs, something a stock player is not really capable of. The mods and tweaks on the Oppo lower distortion, improve signal to noise ratio and dynamic range and reduce noise. Subjectively that results in greater naturalness, greater musicality, a more engaging sound, more warmth and sweetness, thise sorts of things. More like cassettes or vinyl, to use an analogy.

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geoffkait wrote:

The mods and tweaks on the Oppo lower distortion, improve signal to noise ratio and dynamic range and reduce noise. Subjectively that results in greater naturalness, greater musicality, a more engaging sound, more warmth and sweetness, thise sorts of things. More like cassettes or vinyl, to use an analogy.
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That's exactly what I was looking for..your overall impression. Sounds like it was a success.

Have you ever tried the tube mod?

Cheers,

Ron

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You Read It Here!

"...it's difficult to quantify these things. The various mods and tweaks to the Oppo affect the sound in a number of ways, honestly I do not sit down and evaluate every single mod..."

Geoffy doesn't listen!

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Tube mods
rrstesiak wrote:
geoffkait wrote:

The mods and tweaks on the Oppo lower distortion, improve signal to noise ratio and dynamic range and reduce noise. Subjectively that results in greater naturalness, greater musicality, a more engaging sound, more warmth and sweetness, thise sorts of things. More like cassettes or vinyl, to use an analogy.
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That's exactly what I was looking for..your overall impression. Sounds like it was a success.

Have you ever tried the tube mod?

Cheers,

Ron

Each modder has his own specialty, Ric doesn't do any tube mods as far as I know. Of the handful of dudes that do Oppo mods only one or two will do tube mods. Nothing against tubes. Not at all. I have had tube gear like forever. A really big advantage of the Oppo is you can run it directly into the amp. Very transparent sound.

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