Start with Zoso (otherwise known as IV, or untitled-- the one with the hermit on the cover and Stairway). After that, it's a matter of taste. If you want bluesy, get I. If you want proggy, get Houses of the Holy or Physical Graffiti. If you want folk and folk-blues, get III. If you want Big Dumb Metal, get II. Skip Coda, Presence and In Through the Out Door until you have the rest. The best live one is the one that came out about 2 years ago-- How the West Was Won. The Song Remains The Same is a classic movie, but a rather dull performance. The Led Zeppelin DVD has some great stuff on it.

Honestly, and here's where I start a flame war, they are a grossly overrated band. Much of the music that made them famous was plagiarized from other artists*; Jimmy Page is a really sloppy guitarist, and Robert Plant isn't half the singer that say, Roger Daltrey is. Their music is a lot of fun, but not nearly as profound or deep as most critics make it out to be. And it's hard to think of another major band of the era whose production sounds more dated.

* (To give four examples, I Can't Quit You Baby is a note-for-note copy of a 1961 Otis Rush recording, down to the arrangement and the entire guitar solo; the Lemon Song is so close to Howlin' Wolf's Killing Floor that Willie Dixon, the composer, sued and won; Black Mountain Side is a note-for-note copy of a Bert Jansch song that they didn't credit; and the intro to Stairway to Heaven was nicked from a Spirit tune called Taurus-- Spirit opened for them on Zep's first US tour. There are three or four other obvious examples. I like a lot of their music, and Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti are even original and fresh today. But I could name ten rock bands that were more influential, and probably twenty that were better. Rant over.)

Lionel

Obviously you did not expect to get away with your naive rant about the Zep.

The simple fact that you dont understand is that the greatest talent is not always going to be the most popular. Led Zep are and always will be one of the most iconic bands in history, I can also name dozens of bands who have more talent but thats not the point with bands in the public eye.

Led Zep are the definitive item wether you like it or not.

I will definetly challenge you to name ten more influential bands.

Alan

I agree that "IV" is the place to start, though I disagree with everything else. "IV" is where they hit their stride. All of their albums are great, with the exception of "In Through out door" and "Coda" which are merely good. Led Zeppelin "I" is the sound of great musicians getting to know each other. Most songs are covers, or written primarily by one member. "II" is the sound of a band learning how to compose songs together, and finding a sound. III is a band seeing how far it could stretch out. IV brings it all together as a fully formed idea. From there every album builds on some aspect(s) present on IV.

There are also some greatest hits albums out there. Personally I've never been a fan of compilations. Particularly with a band like Led Zeppelin. They worked hard on EVERY song, and didn't believe in filler.

Exactly Lionel!! They are over hyped, well marketed, cover band, all their stuff are replays of teh original greats!!! Thank You....Word for word, they sped it up added some effects.........and the original dudes got hosed, hardly making teh money they should have while Led Zeppelin made million$. Marketing, it works

Go see Buddy Guy LIVE and you will see an original incredible creator of what Hendrix copied SRV etc..Buddy Guy was wailing away in teh 50's and everyone thought he was insane, behind teh back stuff he picked up from a predecessor, but when you see Buddy Guy at 72 years old, play teh guitar with his TEETH, and sling it behind his back and wail like a 20 year old, that's incredible!!! And he pioneered many sounds, that the other guys copied, he even talks about it on stage, Buddy Guy is one of teh greatest ones ever..see him live before it's too late!!! Energy, showmanship, personality, and incredible guitar work....he started much of it.....read his bio's amazing, Led Zeppelin is a cover band...a very good cover band.....but didn't give respect for whence it all came from....at least ELVIS said he got it all from his churches, other musicans, he combined it all and became Elvis...Zeppelin is grossly over rated

DUP

As usual your talking controversial nonsense.

Im surprised you didnt also bring up the Spice girls as being the cultural icon of British music and that the Beatles are just a cover band.

Musical inspiration comes from many areas, Buddy Guy is a fine guitar player but he plays one very limited style of music that has minimal commercial appeal, he plays to a club of a few hundred people. When Zeppelin played at the O2 arena recently thet had 20 million ticket applications, thats 35% of the entire population of the UK.

This Zeppelin bashing is just pathetic jealously of the most iconic rock band ever, they are the biggest name in rock music full stop. There are only two acts that I can think of that even come close to popularity for a tour and thats Elvis and the Beatles, but neither of thee could come close to the worldwide appeal of Zeppelin.

Zeppelin/Buddy Guy !!! c/mon be realistic at least

Alan

Exactly, most people his age are looking for their teeth....he's playing guitar with his!!!! Incredible musican...the guy looks 40 years old Great showman, incredible musican...catch him live when ya can.

When did popularity become a determinant of quality? The Backstreet Boys sold out arenas, and influenced other lame bands that followed.

I should yield to popular opinion and fill my iPod with MP3s, then listen through $5 earbuds. Then I'll order nothing but pepperoni on my pizza.

There are/were many fine musicians and groups. There is no definitive band. If you're looking for iconic rock bands, how can you exclude the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd? What about the incredibly talented rockers who never achieved superstar status? Warren Zevon, Toto, and so many others

I'm not calling Led Zeppelin hacks, I'm just saying there's room for everybody, and I don't see the need for blind worship.

Hi

I would totally agree that there are lots of bands that can be classed as iconic, ELP, Jethro Tull, Motorhead, Free, Floyd, AC/DC, Focus, Black Sabbath, Mike Oldfield, Deep Purple, Beatles, Iron Maiden, Metallica and loads more.

I was not worshipping Zeppelin and in actual fact im not that big a fan, what i was objecting to was the ignorance of dismissing them as a glorified cover band. Wether people like it or not they are the most popular band, a Zep reunion tour would make a stones or floyd tour look minor league.

Alan

If I were buying the Zeppelin studio albums again they would be in this order.

1. IV
2. Houses of the Holy
3. Physical Graffiti
4. I
5. II
6. Presence
7. III
8. In Through The Out Door
9. Coda

The Beatles are more original than Led Zeppelin, DUH. Look at the list of McCartney/Lennon songs. That was one prolific duo. List the Zeppelin ORIGINALS. Not covers. The Beatles did covers, but they wrote more stuff than covers. I think even Ringo had more originals than Led Zeppelin. Christ even playing the guitar with teh bow was taken from another guy, way before Page did it....eeessshh

Stones sell out arenas in minutes, after 46 years? Led Zeppelin lasted how long as a group? Stones don't have to get BACK TOGETHER, they never broke up!!! That's why they are the world's greatest band. And they still sound great. Mick J is more of an entertainer/showman, than anything Zeppelin. I think they should have a boxing match, let's see Mick kick the piss out of them old Zeppelin dudes, have you seen what those 2 Zeppelin dudes look like. Mick still jumps around stage like he's 204 years old. The Zeppelin dudes look like Micks parents...well if Mick was adopted by gay dudes, since 2 guys don't naturaly have kids...if ya know what I mean.

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Ya, Mick does look like he's 204 years old. Oh, and talk about looking like death Keith Richards is a cadaver. Sometimes if you look really, really close you can see the strings. Most of the magic of The Stones died with Brian Jones. How hypocritical of Mick and Keith to kick him out of the band for drug abuse, did they even try to get their friend help? The real reason he got the Spanish elbow was that Mick was pissed because Brian's drug conviction was going to cause visa problems for the band and he wanted the money from a US tour. Even back then he was a greedy, selfish prick. The Stones are a cartoon caricature of their former selves. Have they made a great album in the last 20 years? NO How about the last 25 years? NO It's been maybe 30 or more years. What's the point of them releasing new studio albums, why not just tour. Their songwriting fire went out long, long ago.

Led Zeppelin is perhaps unique, with the exception of The Beatles in the fact that they decided to end it and go out on top. A wise move as no one would have been able to fill Mr. Bonham's drum stool. They could have carried on and made tons more money. Instead they decided to honor their friends memory and what they had accomplished, walking away to let their accomplishments stand on their own. Ending the band was a brave move. They had to know that none of them would ever achieve that level of success or creativity as individuals no matter how hard they tried.

Mick is a SMART business guy.....how many groups do you read about how they got hosed by record companeis, managers etc. Nobody ever got the advantage over teh Stones, Smart, very Smart. Mick was going to business school before his music took off. He musta' learned and put it into practical use. Mick sings with Tina Turner, anotehr incredible performer, Led Zepplin dude teams up with bubble gum, boring female to try and get some money....Stones have energy, Zeppelin have old age.....how come when BB King still sells out concerts at 81, there is no negativity on his age, he is also amazing touring teh country at his age, same with Buddy Guy and others of that genere'. Brittany Speaers didn't last into here old age of 27? Paul McCartney and Ringo look Spry, teh Zeppelin dudes just look worn out!!!!

Let's see how Page fairs at 93, if he gets there..... http://www.optimum.net/Entertainment/AP/Article?articleId=416364&categoryId=11

Glad to hear that the signal to noise ratio in this thread didn't stop you from exploring a great band. Let us know what you think.

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I will definetly challenge you to name ten more influential bands.

Alan

1. The Velvet Underground. The whole of alt-rock is on their first two (1966, 1967) albums.

2. The Beatles. 'Nuff said.

3. The Stones. Ditto.

4. Chuck Berry. Yeah, he's not the most original guitarist (most of his licks are adaptations of T-Bone Walker) but as John Lennon said, "if Rock and Roll had another name, you could call it Chuck Berry."

5. The Stooges. Like the VU, everyone who bought their albums started a band.

6. Black Sabbath. Most of metal, from their copyists (Budgie, Monster Magnet), to their successors (Judas Priest), comes from their first five albums.

7. The Who.

8. The Kinks. Maybe the most underrated group in rock history.

9. Bob Dylan. Anything that purports to be literary rock, from Springsteen to Elvis Costello, to Beck Hansen, is all here.

10. The Yardbirds. Yes, Zeppelin claimed to have evolved from the Yardbirds (actually, Page was the only common denominator), but there's nothing at all that Zeppelin did that wasn't already done by the Clapton and/or Jeff Beck incarnations of their band. Zep had slightly more distortion and a drummer who'd learned something from Keith Moon (see The Who, above), but there's a very good reason why Jimmy Page has tried so hard to keep the last two Yardbirds albums out of print for all these years. They sound exactly like the first two Zep albums.

Don't get me wrong-- I like Led Zeppelin. There are two or three of their albums that I genuinely love. I even listen to them fairly frequently. But they're no more originators than Kiss was, and I'm not sure they'd make my top 20 bands of the 70's. Zep may have sold more records than (say) Patto or Thin Lizzy or John Fahey or Pentangle, but that doesn't make them better, only more popular. And you only have to look at the charts these days to realize what a trap that is.

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Christ even playing the guitar with teh bow was taken from another guy, way before Page did it....eeessshh

That would be Eddie Phillips of The Creation. Great band, in a very Whoish way, if you can track them down.

Hi

Velvet Underground ?

Stooges ?

Kinks ?

Yardbirds ?

Are you serious ?

I cant name a single velvet underground song and ive never even heard of the stooges

These might well be talented bands, but influntial on a zeppelin scale ??? c'mon you cant be serious.

Alan

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Have you ever hear the tunes "Sweet Jane" or "Walk on the Wild Side"?

Chuck Berry pretty much DID invent rock and roll so indirectly his influence arguably is greater than anyone. He isn't mentioned enough. I'll give you that one.

You may like Velvet Underground and The Stooges better and in some respects they are the grandfathers of alternative however can you seriously argue that they are more influential on popular music AS A WHOLE? I just don't see it.

Bob Dylan is undoubtedly a better song writer with more influence as a songwriter. But few are trying to play guitar or sing like him. So it's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison.

The Beatles showed every British band that they could succeed outside of the UK and inspired a generation to try. I'll give you this one too.

As to my feelings on The Rolling Stones I've already stated that earlier in the thread so I'll just paraphrase by saying OVER RATED at the best of times.

The Yardbirds? Seriously? Who would count the Yardbirds as a main influence? Walk into the street right now and ask the next 10 people who The Yardbirds are and get back to me. That is of course unless they lock you up, which they very well might. Don't get me wrong I own a couple of their albums and enjoy them, but they aren't on the same level when it comes to influence.

The Who I'd put them in the same pantheon as Led Zeppelin. Townshend is a better songwriter but as far as influencing the tonal pallet Zeppelin is far more influential.

I have a lot of respect for your list, seriously I think that it is centered on songwriting, which is one angle to consider. However Led Zeppelin wasn't a band about songwriting, it was a band about sound, tempo, tonal colors, dynamics and arrangement. They painted with sound in a way that few others have ever attempted.

Jimmy Page was also one of the first musicians to take complete creative control and produce his own band. Even The Beatles had George Martin. Page was the final decision maker when it came to sound, content, style, marketing, and anything else you want to consider. Record companies didn't dictate to Zeppelin, EVER! Even their first album, which was self financed has no compromise to outside forces.

Yes, thanks, The Creations with the bow playing. Couldn't recall the name. There is NOTHING Zeppelin did that wasn't taken from someone else or some other group. They had great marketing, it sold. Even the burning Zeppelin was based on....the Hindenburg....what else can they copy?

Welsh, and I bet you can't name the original Blues dudes who pioneered it all. Just cus' YOU can't name the names, don't mean that's not what created it all. VU yes, super influential group. New York Dolls? Rramones!!!! Yardbirs, you can't name Yardbirds stuff? you have been left out of everything . Look what guys came and went through the group. You never heard of Iggy Pop and the Stooges....you are limited in your experiences. I thought the "open mind" montra applied to things audio....guess you didn't apply it to your music listening.

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I thought the "open mind" montra applied to things audio...

Just couldn't resist pointing out this delicious hypocritical remark by our beloved DUP.

Good list. Good call to note the influence of Velvet Underground in particular, who STILL continue to influence most serious rock music in ways small and large.

I would add Cream to that list. Maybe in place of the Yardbirds - who of course were a nexus of so many influential musicians but I think Cream hit higher highs in their work.

Of course, behind all those are even more influential sources, and I would highlight Robert Johnson, Skip James, Son House, Muddy, the Wolf, Willie Dixon, etc. Goodness, the list could go on forever (Big Joe Turner, Ike Turner, Hank Williams, Bob Wills, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard) but I'll stop there for now.

After Ike Turner got in teh news again, due to his death, i started reading up on that dude. He was incredible, the stuff he did for music. I now have most of all his albums, he was incredible. He was highly underated, he also put Tina in teh big time, he discovered her and made her. Ike was an inovator, the claim is HE may have had teh first rock and roll song Rocket 88. amazing life he had. Too bad only his stuff with the law is what most people think of with him...so much more. I bet Welsch doesn't even know Rocket 88, or Ike, as nothing but the one who took it out on Tina. It is sad. Tina is also incredible talent, she never aged.....

I like Lionel's list, too. But I don't know if I'd put VU ahead of The Beatles! VU's influence fluctuates with each year, depending on the cultural currency, but The Beatles' influence is virtually rock steady. A band that nobody has yet mentioned as an influence is Bri Wilson & The Beach Boys! Have you heard all these indie bands that are making waves these days? They went through Brian Wilson 101 in some rock community college or something. Same logic holds true for David Byrne & Talking Heads. I'd love to see The Clash up in that list, too. Good call on The Kinks, Lionel.

And before there was Amy Winehouse, there was Lady Day.

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I cant name a single velvet underground song and ive never even heard of the stooges

Condolences.

I would hesitate to put the list in any sequence, but have no problem acknowledging the Beatles as more influential. Lots of personal preferences involved with all of us (I personally got sick of the Beatles decades ago and don't care if I ever hear them again - ALL their songs are in my head forever and I have no need to spin their disks. But I do still play VU!)

The lists we're discussing are a funny mix of musical influence versus cultural/popular influence, and that's all mixed together anyway!

Would be good to include females in the list - given historical/cultural factors, they are under-represented in some ways - but let's add Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Big Mama Thornton, Patsy Cline, and more.

And as long as I'm adding to the list: Patti Smith, Ramones, and Sex Pistols, please.

Janis Joplin.....the more i listen the more I see just how great she was....emotion, feeling and can really wail some emotion....he influence was also the old times Blues Ladys....Bessie Smith She also acknoledged it, didn't try to make it appear it was her original concept. LEZ Zeppelin is a fantastic GIRL Zeppelin cover group, they have it perfect, if ya get a chance to see them, shcek them out, really amazing how they do it..the main singer has some vocal range They played Stony Pony in Asbury Pk....really good, I wasn't expecting it to be, but they where good.

I admit to being a Dread Zeppelin fan.

Dread Zeppelin

Think Zeppelin + Reggae + Elvis Impersonator = Bliss.

Quite well recorded, too.

DUP, give Led Zeppelin a try without the EQUALIZER and see if it sounds different.

Dread Zeppelin looks like a cartoon bunch
System can be made to sound which ever way it needs to go, lively, bright, muted, "warm" mellow......energized, the beauty of CONTROL....better control through electronics. the beauty is also how NUETRAL teh basics are amp, pre, speakers, so all surrounding stuff can be used to make it do what ever ya wants. Versitility, not locked into one sound for everything. It's a beautiful thang......when recordings are made, they can basically do with it, whatever their mood strikes, some come out more natural, some more lively, they can bring out the snare drum on top of stuff, cymbals riding on top of stuff, or move them back into the mix, it's endless. A great playback system can bring it ALL back ALIVE, whatever mood ya in. Where ever ya want it to be. Nuetral amps, like teh AVA and pre amps, let it all happen. Even teh best Legacy Helix comes with a DSP, last time I seen was a Klark-Technik system. Whisper get a "low frequency damping control" processor included. Flexibile is key...since all recordings differ. When running the Audio Control Spectrum Analyzer, it shows what the system is doing, room effects? So a slight modification electronicly, just changes the effects..nutin' wrong wit dat!!!

Yeah, yeah, equalizers don't harm the sound, equalizer users do.

DUP, with great versatility comes great sonic responsibility - sounds like someone didn't know when to say when when he installed the "smiley" pattern on his equalizer.

It's OK, those guys with the boomy cars use the same equalization pattern!

Maybe a visit to the audiologist is in order.

Nope. The largest boost across the board is 2db if that, larger reduction in some lower extrmeitys. Maybe Ain't got no smiley Maybe a teaspoon!!! Not a soup ladel, a teaspoon. And then there are still yet other variables Spectrum analyzer from Audio Control, shows what the room is doing....slightest tweak to compensate.

http://www.eqmag.com/article/eq-artist-master/may-08/35391

Make it sound like whatever ya want it to be at the source. Far beyond mere equalizer...21st century. http://www.mcdsp.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=30

Methinks DUP doth protest too much.

DUP's Equalizer setting:

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Hi

This post does question if hifi people ever go outside during daylight hours.

Its as if their favourite things become iconic regardless of anyone else on the planet !!

Ill tell you what, you can all have the proceeds of concerts on the same night by BB King, Yardbirds, stooges, velvet underground, ill take a night of Zeppelin at soldier field !!

Alan

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I would hesitate to put the list in any sequence, but have no problem acknowledging the Beatles as more influential. Lots of personal preferences involved with all of us (I personally got sick of the Beatles decades ago and don't care if I ever hear them again - ALL their songs are in my head forever and I have no need to spin their disks. But I do still play VU!)

The lists we're discussing are a funny mix of musical influence versus cultural/popular influence, and that's all mixed together anyway!

Would be good to include females in the list - given historical/cultural factors, they are under-represented in some ways - but let's add Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Big Mama Thornton, Patsy Cline, and more.

And as long as I'm adding to the list: Patti Smith, Ramones, and Sex Pistols, please.

Yeah. I chose the first ten bands that came to mind, preferably ones that did things similar to Zep but betterish. Unfortunately, Sleater-Kinney, the Donnas, and Heart aside, not many female musicians are in the same genre as Zeppelin. But don't forget that the VU's incredible drummer was and is Moe (Maureen) Tucker. (I'll also put in a vote for the X-Ray Spex, whose vocalist, Poly Styrene, and saxophonist, Lora Logic, completely kicked ass. And Janis, who threw away more talent than most musicians ever have. I digress.)

(The following is a response to several messages on the thread, not necessarily to Bill)

As to the Stooges, they may be relatively obscure to the general public, but to other musicians, they're incredibly influential. Ask Guns N' Roses, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Sex Pistols, or Joan Jett, who've covered their songs. Or David Bowie, who got them a new major label deal and produced their third album. Or Madonna, who asked that they be the band who played for her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The Velvet Underground, as Brian Eno once noted, were a band that sold few records, but everyone who bought one started a band.

And the Yardbirds. Wow. Anyone who doesn't know the Yardbirds needs to listen to Roger the Engineer. Even Jimi Hendrix (who I stupidly forgot to list on my original list) was hugely influenced by Jeff Beck's work in the Yardbirds. (And as recently as 1992, Aerosmith got caught nicking a verse from a Yardbirds song without credit.)

I think the Byrds belong on lists such as these, for sure. Also Love, as they influenced bands as disparate as Pink Floyd and the Brian Jonestown Massacre, as well as many of the indie darlings of today.

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I think the Byrds belong on lists such as these, for sure. Also Love, as they influenced bands as disparate as Pink Floyd and the Brian Jonestown Massacre, as well as many of the indie darlings of today.

I have such mixed feelings about the Byrds. When they were good, they were incredible. So much of their pre-country albums seem like two or three good singles and some filler, though. Eight Miles High may be my favorite single, ever, by any band, though. Coltrane licks in a pop single! (And don't miss Roger McGuinn if he ever comes to your town. He is one of the best guitarists I've ever seen live.)

And Forever Changes by Love is beyond description, it's so good. Don't forget Love's substantial influence on the Doors. If Jim Morrison hadn't taken himself so seriously... (And if Arthur Lee had managed to keep himself out of jail)

Pink Floyd is another band that kept coming to mind, actually. Certainly, there's a whole genre of bands which sound like various eras of Pink Floyd. (Alan Parsons Project- Dark Side of the Moon; Wire- Piper at the Gates of Dawn; Hawkwind- Meddle; any Emo group you care to name- The Wall or Animals) While, in my middle age, I rarely listen to any Floyd but Wish You Were Here and Piper, they were a band to be reckoned with.

I'll refrain from taking any more shots at Led Zeppelin, but if someone likes early Zeppelin and wants to hear similar stuff, pick up Cactus' first album (silly but heavy), or Jeff Beck's Truth (one of the best guitar albums ever, plus Rod Stewart on vocals!), or anything the Yardbirds did in either their Beck or Page eras. Or, if you want to hear something truly mindbending and progressive, pick up the Mahavishnu Orchestra's Inner Mounting Flame or Birds of Fire. John McLaughlin is to Jimmy Page as Jimmy Page is to my three year old who "plays guitar" by strumming random strings. (And Page would be the first to admit it, at least in his post-coke days.)

www.mattoree.com Does Zeppelin, Hendrix played for Les Paul at Les Pauls birthday....

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www.mattoree.com Does Zeppelin, Hendrix played for Les Paul at Les Pauls birthday....

Actually, Les Paul nearly was the guy who discovered Hendrix (instead of Chas Chandler of the Animals). Paul tells the story that he was at a club in the New York area one night in 1965 or 66, and heard the audition of this absolutely amazing young black guitarist. He unfortunately had to leave in the middle of the audition to get to a gig, but called up the club owner the next day to find out the guitarist's name so he could track him down and get him a record deal. The club owner didn't remember- he thought the guy was too far out and wouldn't hire him. A year or so later, Les Paul saw him on an album cover...

(While they sound rather odd because of all of the production tricks, doubling, vari-speed, etc, Les Paul's recordings from the 40s and 50s with Mary Ford are some of the best electric guitar ever recorded. I don't even particularly like the style of pop-jazz he played back then, but wow, what a genius. As an engineer and a musician.)

I have teh book The Early Years of the Les Paul Legacy, 1915-1963 just out, beautiful book hardcover, great pictures and history get it!!! Lester Polsfus (mother dropped the middle "s" later on)....his grandfather imigrated to the U.S. from Germany, (GERMAN, thus his inovative, creative mind!!!) tells the story of how Les's fther met his mother, changed names, how Lester was as a kid, amazing stuff, great read. All kinds of Les Paul history that made him evolve into Les Paul, he had a knack for taking things apart and making them do different things. Les Paul created things that changed music and recording of it. sound on Sound, he dealt with Ampex, his home in Mahwah N.J. is like a sound museum. They talks about his original solid body, cut in half ES Gibson, with a block of wood in teh middle, how Gibson first said not interested, until Fender did some inovations, Les Paul's life is the hisotry of electric guitars, it existed before, but he revolutionized it.

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I have heard a few mentions about led zep recently, so I wanted someone to recomennd one to listen to, being this would be my first time listening.

thx

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Glad to hear that you are loving Led Zeppelin IV, it's only the tip of the ice berg. Forget greatest hits albums and get started buying the rest of the albums.