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If you like ass kicking rock, get this album(it is cheap, too)

http://www.luceromusic.com/

Glossary- my new favorite band

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Obviously influenced by The Band and so forth.

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I am done with your recomendations Southernman in full

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Checked out the website

Got to call you out on this one, sounds like a high school band with a drunken alley cat singing !!!

That is not rock !!!

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Got to call you out on this one, sounds like a high school band with a drunken alley cat singing !!!

That is not rock !!!

What do you mean?
That's the very definition of rock

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I figured itd be lost on some here, but that is ok.. those who know, know. Theres a lot of music outside of the led zeppelin(god I hate zeppelin), pink floyd, cream, and thin lizzys of this world.

ok...let me throw another one out there.

FLAT DUO JETS . check em out

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Got to call you out on this one, sounds like a high school band with a drunken alley cat singing !!!

That is not rock !!!

Uh....

So, what IS rock? The Dave Clark 5?

I wonder what you'd think of Molly Hatchett or J. Geils...

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I figured itd be lost on some here, but that is ok.. those who know, know. Theres a lot of music outside of the led zeppelin(god I hate zeppelin), pink floyd, cream, and thin lizzys of this world.

ok...let me throw another one out there.

FLAT DUO JETS . check em out

That's the risk you take when you post something you like.

I'm glad you did because I enjoyed the cuts I listened to.

Slight like the Cash Brothers, and on many cuts, it could have been Tonio K working the vocals!

They will be a "buy."

Thanks!

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Well, you know what they say, when rock players grow up and get themselves some refinement and quality...they get to play in bands in Nashville.

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Well, you know what they say, when rock players grow up and get themselves some refinement and quality...they get to play in bands in Nashville.

Then, after they get really really good - they get kicked off the country airwaves so Taylor Swift can get played 20 effing times a day.

Nashville's greatest artists are all invisible to the country radio airwaves.

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Taylor who?

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Mick Taylor.

I've no idea who that is in the animated gif I posted, but it is amusing as all get out.

I was looking for images of the insides of a specific amplifier and I somehow ended up at this site, where the gif came from. Some may hate, some may like.

http://lucidmedia.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html

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I figured itd be lost on some here, but that is ok.. those who know, know. Theres a lot of music outside of the led zeppelin(god I hate zeppelin), pink floyd, cream, and thin lizzys of this world.

ok...let me throw another one out there.

FLAT DUO JETS . check em out

Now, you may not like Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page knows a thing or two about record engineering as attested to by Zeppelin's Mothership CD. Un-stinking-believable!

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I figured itd be lost on some here, but that is ok.. those who know, know. Theres a lot of music outside of the led zeppelin(god I hate zeppelin), pink floyd, cream, and thin lizzys of this world.

ok...let me throw another one out there.

FLAT DUO JETS . check em out

Now, you may not like Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page knows a thing or two about record engineering as attested to by Zeppelin's Mothership CD. Un-stinking-believable!

Hear hear! I got the Mothership LP set.

Or is it, "here here"?

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Now, you may not like Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page knows a thing or two about record engineering as attested to by Zeppelin's Mothership CD. Un-stinking-believable!

Just wait 'til you hear the cassette version!

CD? Un-stinking-believable?

Hey, aren't you the guy who said, "The secret is out: cassettes -- regardless of any technical limitations -- get to the heart and soul of the music. Unlike uh, CDs."

Or this gem:

"The CD is an excellent demonstration of the failure of technology to provide the musicality of even the humble cassette. CD technology is plagued - after 27 years!! - by a number of inherent problems, most notably (1) the inability of Reed Solomon ECC to be of much value except in limited cases, (2) the inability of the CD player's photodetector to discriminate between real signal and scattered background laser light, (3) the suceptablity of the CD to jitter from airborne and structureborne vibration.

Having said that, it is true that the CD, as it is, is good enough for most people."

Can't believe you didn't get the cassette.

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How do you like this one stupid southernman:

Gonna Sock It To My Baby!
Like a Rocket, Don't mean Maybe!
Gonna Take It Out My Pocket!
Hey! Yo! Bimbo! You Unlock It!

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I've no idea who that is in the animated gif I posted, but it is amusing as all get out.

Jesus man.. you dont know who that is?? that is the incomperable Ian Curtis in his amazing band, Joy Division. Classic band. a favorite of mine.

RIP Ian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVc29bYIvCM

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How do you like this one stupid southernman:

Gonna Sock It To My Baby!
Like a Rocket, Don't mean Maybe!
Gonna Take It Out My Pocket!
Hey! Yo! Bimbo! You Unlock It!

dont much care for wolfe (though I did enjoy the acid test)

but im not surprised your amphibian candy ass likes it.

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Nashville's greatest artists are all invisible to the country radio airwaves.

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aint that the truth.. and if you want to become a well known picker...nashville aint the place for it.

you can throw something in any direction in that town and hit an amazing guitarist.. I used to live there(in brentwood) when I was in the Stamps(on weekends anyway).. our home HQ(the owners house) had dolly partons house on one side and stonewall jacksons house on the other.

anyway.. i have never seen so many amazing musicians as I did while living in Nashville.

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So, what IS rock? The Dave Clark 5?

I wonder what you'd think of Molly Hatchett or J. Geils...

Dislike them both.

Link Wray, Flat Duo Jets, Slobberbone, Two Cow Garage, Jason and the Scorchers..

thats rock.

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I don't

I am finding out that a good portion of this forum actually listen to crap

At the avs forum a majority 99% of people watch crap

There is nowhere to go

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I am finding out that a good portion of this forum actually listen to crap

At the avs forum a majority 99% of people watch crap

There is nowhere to go

Alright, so let me ask you a question, Froggie. Most of your posts here are you either 1.) insulting america

2.) insulting americans

3.) insulting someone's choice of music, books, film, food, (even fashion)

do you have anything meaningful to say? As it stands , you come off as a really bad parody of a frenchman, a troll.

Since you seem to find no joy in human companionship, loathe the country you live in, and seem to be surrounded by people who are not worthy of your presence...what is the point in living? I mean, seriously. Your game was cute for a bit, froggie dear, but now I find you to be a bit of a bore.

What do you hope to achieve on these forums, Froggie? You dont seem to be looking for any meaningful interaction..all you do is regurgitate nonsense. Get a different playbook for christs sake... better yet, move back to france. the country would be no worse for being light one miserable french bastard.

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oh yes, and you could always go out like your countryman, Crevel..gas yourself.

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Or listen to Charlie Wood which could have the same effect

For years you were talking to your black "residents" no better than you are talking now

Creves? Would hanging be enjoyable enough for you?

You don't like the Pink Floyd

You are so predictable

You like yourself and bad music

Look if you can read and stop your train for a minute I just spent a small portion of my life in France. As I said 50% of americans are fine individuals, in many ways better individuals than in other part of the world. It is the other half that is repellent and stink.

You never talk about Jazz.
Do you know that the best Jazz radio station is French?
Don't you like Jazz music Southernman in full??
You don't read history but when they were discriminated in the US your black "residents" were all flooding Paris.

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You are just a brainless southern fart

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Now, you may not like Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page knows a thing or two about record engineering as attested to by Zeppelin's Mothership CD. Un-stinking-believable!

Just wait 'til you hear the cassette version!

CD? Un-stinking-believable?

Hey, aren't you the guy who said, "The secret is out: cassettes -- regardless of any technical limitations -- get to the heart and soul of the music. Unlike uh, CDs."

Or this gem:

"The CD is an excellent demonstration of the failure of technology to provide the musicality of even the humble cassette. CD technology is plagued - after 27 years!! - by a number of inherent problems, most notably (1) the inability of Reed Solomon ECC to be of much value except in limited cases, (2) the inability of the CD player's photodetector to discriminate between real signal and scattered background laser light, (3) the suceptablity of the CD to jitter from airborne and structureborne vibration.

Having said that, it is true that the CD, as it is, is good enough for most people."

Can't believe you didn't get the cassette.

Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much.

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I figured itd be lost on some here, but that is ok.. those who know, know. Theres a lot of music outside of the led zeppelin(god I hate zeppelin), pink floyd, cream, and thin lizzys of this world.

ok...let me throw another one out there.

FLAT DUO JETS . check em out

Well thank you for the hint. Seem somewhat in the line of some of the things that I listen to.
I'm a metalhead but one who often pop my head out of the box to listen to just about anything for a change. Wait a second! Thin Lizzy wasn't too bad really!
Right now listening to Ian Gillian singing "Dislocated" (yes of Deep Purple) doing something that closest resembles a song that could have been written by 10cc.

So as an edit. What kind of music do get 90% of listening time for me.

The music I favour have one thing in common, and that is the complex and a high degree of information density. Anything else will make me become bored in a rather short time and I will walk away from it.
So be aware that this if music that have to grow on you, just like classical, it will most likely take 10 or more listenings before you 'get it'.

Here's a list of startoffs to explore for the curious mind.

Third Moon: Bloodforsaken (Austrian Death metal interwoven with quiet moments of acoustic spanish guitar. To find it check on E-bay in Europe.)

A perfect Circle - Mer De Noms (Anyone in US better E-bay if from Europe, the thought police jumped them and had a forced change to the lyrics on some important statements on this album before the US release.)

God Dethroned: Ravenous. (Dutch Death metal, Tony Laureano on drums.)

Neurosis: A Sun That Never Sets. You'll find it sorted under Punk, but it is rather a rock opera sometimes with 2 or 3 folkmusicians on violins up close on the soundstage.
Overall this is one an amazingly strange and thought provoking one. This music make me see odd images to my inner eye that no other music have done in recent years.

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Neurosis: A Sun That Never Sets.

I am not much of a metalhead, but you made such a great description, I will go looking for this.

Thank you.

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You never talk about Jazz.
Do you know that the best Jazz radio station is French?

I dont talk about Jazz because I don't listen to it, or even like it.. Neither classical...though I have been singing it all of my life(classical that is, I am a Classically Trained Bass. (Basso Profundo to be more precise and pretentious )

History? I've read plenty... id much rather make it though.

as to your hanging question.. im not into auto-erotic asphyxiation.. but you seem like the type, froggie dear.

anyway.

back to the music.

lets talk about a really great album that represents to me, the very embodiment of "superbly engineered hard rock album"

that would be Porcupine Tree...

"In Absentua" production wise.. it is top of the heap. amazing, amazing sound..musical content somewhere between alice in chains, dream theatre and the LAs.

been playing flat duo jets all day long.

"Introducing Flat Duo Jets" and "Go Harlem Baby" are classics(those are album titles)

Also had some X too..

"los angeles" "Wild girl" and "wild gift"

and "country club" by john doe and the sadies

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and KBK, you should be heartily scorned for not knowing who Joy Division is(or recognizing Ian!!)

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I had figured out that you don't like Jazz Southernman

Charlie Wood give you the chills but

- you don't like classical music
- you don't like Jazz
- you don't like the Pink Floyd
- you are not interested in world music

- you don't even like rock

You like crap and above all you love yourself and your own hillbillies kind, Southernman

oh and you have a following on Stereophile forum

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Here is a holy song to purify this forum

..
"I want to have fun, I want to shine like the sun
I want to be the one that you want to see
I want to knit you a sweater
Want to write you a love letter
I want to make you feel better
Want to make you feel free"..

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You like crap and above all you love yourself and your own hillbillies kind, Southernman

Where does all this anger come from?

Can we just discuss a topic without attacking each other on a personal level?

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Now this thread getting derailed, first off I have to tell you ncdrawl that you're getting trolled bigtime, and falling for it!

And now our regular program commence:
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You're welcome Buddah.

Neurosis appear fully aware that they have that effect on their listeners, on 'Souls at Zero' they even insert short spoken interludes taken from various sources.

One on that album is a German WW2 propaganda broadcasts mixed on top of a monologue from one unknown American film, where a male voice talk about his own execution.

Another is taken from Spanish television, a third from one fundamentalist American radio show, and they also use that famous phonograph recording from the Spanish civil war. Nothing strange about this though, It is perfectly in line with a punk band turned 'Doom Metal' which is the actual label for their music genre.

But Souls at zero is somewhat less accessible why I recommended 'Sun That Never Sets' where they take a somewhat lighthearted approach to themselves. At one point they even go completely acapella sounding like a bunch of drunk vikings - and end that by going off key!

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Where does all this anger come from?

Can we just discuss a topic without attacking each other on a personal level?

My Apologies, Elk, it is my fault for indulging the (obvious) troll. Personal attacks really arent that commonplace anymore, now that Jan Vigne has calmed down. Aside from the Frog/SAS/Ethan triangle(the only source of *real* negativity here, genuine malice) the forum is diplomacy central. but yes, GF above is certainly a troll. It was not clear to me before, but there are no doubts now.

AANTA,

you like strange stuff...

so I get the feeling you would love Harry Partch. He created his own instruments and even his own tuning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Partch

I reccomend his music very strongly.. The delusion of the fury is one of my favorite albums.

below ...the QUADRANGULUS REVERSUM (one of the many instruments he created for his own compositions, for his own
43 toned *just* intonation.

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Yes, NC, but you also troll in your own way. We all do. I try, at times to offer the 'ole fig leaf of reconciliation but may times it gets slapped way. Ah well! Gotta love a good misunderstanding.

I was talking to Taras yesterday about the cleaning up of forums that he frequents, bicycle racing forums and that type of bike forum. In there you will find miscreants who act like they are god's gift among children and step on people and break things with gusto and no real recognition of their internal issues. He says that those people make the folks you have around here look like no problem at all.

So the forum cleaned up the nightmare folks.

Then the forum become stagnant and boring.

So what to do?

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so I get the feeling you would love Harry Partch.

I do! Fascinating guy.

And I want a Quadrangulus Reversum just on the looks alone!

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There is no anger

Just facts

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Can't say I didn't try.

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I have an inordinate fondness for seeing what people like listening to, from KBk's hooking me up with Oka to Ncdrawl and Lucero.

I appreciate the variety and deviation away from "audiophile approved music."

Trying to think of something newish to add...

Well, not new, but Morphine is great on a Hi Fi. My favorite is "Cure for Pain," but "Good" is a close second.

AC/DC's "Powerage" has a kick ass song called "Down Payment Blues" that may be my favorite metal Hi Fi tune.

I use Eno's "Just Another Day on Earth" with both the title track and "This" and it makes for a good example of what Hi FI can do for people.

On vinyl, Beethoven's Sixth on DG is an underappreciated gem.

I'll stop there. I';m surprised music talk in the hobby is so limited given the average audiopophile bullshit about it all being about the music, man.

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Just facts

Sometimes I think you are just still upset about that traitor, Voltaire.

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How long have NC and the frog been married???

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Me and Grosse Fatigue are still in the honeymoon phases.

on a seperate note, MJF and Winer are both banned. so there goes some of the bickering.

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Buddha, great stuff, Morphine..

Cure for Pain is great. definitely in my top 20 all time.

Do you have the Sandbox box set? a must have for any morphine fan. Some of Sandman's non-morphine material is rather different from what we as morphine fans expected! The twinemen comics (included in the set) are neat too..about balls of string that form a band.

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Me and Grosse Fatigue are still in the honeymoon phases.

on a seperate note, MJF and Winer are both banned. so there goes some of the bickering.

Hehe, thumbs up for the next 25 years

Yeah I noticed the quietness in here...

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I guess I'd better be more careful around here, as there are now corpses nailed to the ramparts above the entrance hall.

I swear their eyes move when you walk by.

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These guys kick ass:

Skeleton Key

Thrash/Funk with unique percussion and time signatures. Awesome.

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Buddha, great stuff, Morphine..

Cure for Pain is great. definitely in my top 20 all time.

Do you have the Sandbox box set? a must have for any morphine fan. Some of Sandman's non-morphine material is rather different from what we as morphine fans expected! The twinemen comics (included in the set) are neat too..about balls of string that form a band.

There are actually some Twinemen discs.

I like them.

If you want a disc that sounds like Morphine fronted by a woman, check out Bourbon Princess' "Dark of Days."

I promise if you like Morphine you'll like this.

I have the Sandbox set and like it.

We used to go see Morphine in the Bay Area at little dive places like the Bottom of the Hill Club, then they got big enough for The Warfield and The Fillmore (the Dirty THree opened, I like them, too,) then we were about to see them when they were going to play House of Blues, but Mark Sandman died. I was depressed over that loss, for sure. I saved the tickets, somewhere.

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AANTA,

you like strange stuff...

so I get the feeling you would love Harry Partch. He created his own instruments and even his own tuning.

I reccomend his music very strongly.. The delusion of the fury is one of my favorite albums.

below ...the QUADRANGULUS REVERSUM (one of the many instruments he created for his own compositions, for his own
43 toned *just* intonation.

You bet I do, be it Peter Gabriel early works, Massive Attack remixes of the material of various artists.
I mentioned A perfect circle earlier in the thread - go look for Massive Attack remix of two of their songs for their odd take that in a way improve on the originals!

So thank you for the hint, a guy who played on a "Mazda Marimba" made from Mazda light bulbs definitely sound like my kind of performer.

Re: Buddha

Well that's why I jumped on this thread, today I only have had one of the more common headbanging sessions but for tomorrow I have lined up the following disks for the afternoon.

Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet, where I am to play a single tune at full blast: Les Montague et les Capulet and follow up with...
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an exhibition. Orchestral version by Rotterdam Philharmonic orchestra.

So yes, classic and metal is pretty much the same time, and not only I see the connection. So no wonder many metal bands have had their material played by various symphony orchestras over the years.

Third and for some quiet times at late night: One record I found in one of those basement boxes, and which gave me one odd listening experience some years ago.

Catarina Utsi: Baze Dearvan Goahtoeanan, a Finnish production released on Norwegian publisher DAT featuring guitarist Jukka Tolonen among others. Strange, rather quiet but beautiful music that resemble nothing else I ever heard.

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I have lined up the following disks for the afternoon.

You make an appointment with yourself to listen to music?

You wank yourself with boxing gloves

Are your German?

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Voltaire aptitude for quick, perceptive, cutting, witty and scathingly critical reparties made him highly unpopular on many forums..

He was highly critical of the Church, Wilson, G W Bush and Southern hillbillies

His favorite songwritters were Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen

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