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Ok so let me reply to myself since everyone else here either doesnt know or doesnt care. There is a huge difference between unbalanced and balanced speaker setups. The 1/4 inch plug (or TRS) is designed to deliver equal pahsic input (positive/negative or hot/ground) to the speaker unlike an unbalanced input (most home stereo with the red/black cables). The unbalanced input setup just means there is a farther distance from the speaker to the ground than the positive or source input. This creates an issue as you add more power and amplify sounds that would other wise fade away and go unnoticed. (Think feedback and distortion) So the balanced setup is the best possible way to push sounds from source to output.

So although it is possible to run these speakers through an unbalanced setup, the purpose is lost by doing so. The powered mixer is there to give you as much control as possible over which sounds you allow into the landscape. A mixer alone would have not delivered sound.....think about plugging a guitar into a speaker with having no amp....you arent going to get any sound without amplification.

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It is rather obvious that you don't have the technical background to know or appreciate the difference between balanced and unbalanced circuits and connections.

First of all, ALL speakers have balanced inputs; neither side is normally grounded. Use of an RCA connector is unusual and does not change that fact. If one side of the speaker cable WAS grounded back at the amplifier end, it will make no difference at all to how the speaker will operate. A speaker system does not operate any differently regardless of whether one side is grounded or not.

Your discourse about the "huge difference" is absolute nonsense. The only thing you have accomplished is to demonstrate your complete ignorance of the subject. I would not normally bother to respond to such ridiculous statements, except that I fear that someone might try to make some sense of what you said; and there is absolutely none. Let's set the record straight before you mislead people.

The reason for using balanced circuits in professional audio and recording venues is that the signal-to-noise ratio with balanced circuits is 1000 to 10,000 times as great as it is with unbalanced circuits.

For example, a microphone suspended above an orchestra when recording may have a 100 foot long cable from mike to mixer. With a balanced connection, the hum and noise is essentially zero. Try the same thing with an unbalanced connection and the hum and noise will drown out what the mike is picking up; this is not acceptable.

Microphones only put out a few millvolts of signal, so it is critical to have an EXTREMELY high signal-to-noise ratio, and only balanced connections are practical.

Phono cartridges also have a low output voltage, so it is essential to keep the unbalanced cables connected to them very short (under 18 inches is usually recommended) to avoid hum problems.

Speakers, on the other hand, operate with input voltage levels that are so much larger that hum and noise pickup is seldom a practical concern. Also, the low impedances of speakers make it quite difficult for external sources of noise and hum to induce significant amounts of them into the speaker cables.

I hope you will attempt to learn a lot more before you demonstrate your lack of knowledge again and attempt to confuse and mislead people with confused thinking and complete nonsense.

It is best to say nothing when you know nothing.

paluko wrote:

Ok so let me reply to myself since everyone else here either doesnt know or doesnt care. There is a huge difference between unbalanced and balanced speaker setups. The 1/4 inch plug (or TRS) is designed to deliver equal pahsic input (positive/negative or hot/ground) to the speaker unlike an unbalanced input (most home stereo with the red/black cables). The unbalanced input setup just means there is a farther distance from the speaker to the ground than the positive or source input. This creates an issue as you add more power and amplify sounds that would other wise fade away and go unnoticed. (Think feedback and distortion) So the balanced setup is the best possible way to push sounds from source to output.

So although it is possible to run these speakers through an unbalanced setup, the purpose is lost by doing so. The powered mixer is there to give you as much control as possible over which sounds you allow into the landscape. A mixer alone would have not delivered sound.....think about plugging a guitar into a speaker with having no amp....you arent going to get any sound without amplification.

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