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trowelleric
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Help with Amplifier & Speaker pairing

Ok, So I'm fairly new to all the vintage audio stuff.

I grew up (or was a teenager in the 1980's) and love the hairbands and rock music of this era. IE, Van Halen, 38 special, Warrant, etc....

I like to listen to this type music loud. My wife says way to loud. Anyway I started off a few months ago buying a Marantz 2226B amplifier with a pair of JBL 4312 control monitor speakers. They sound great and I love the look of the vintage Marantz Amp. I soon learned the the Marantz was a nice Amplifier but rather lower end when it comes to wattage output and not the best for high volume 1980's rock.

So I bought a very nice Pioneer SX-950 amplifier, and a pair of Pioneer Hmp-200 speakers. The Pioneer speakers sound awesome. I also love the Pioneer amplifier especially the fact that there are outputs for (3) sets of speakers. So I hooked up the JBL 4312's and the Pioneer Hmp 200's. The issue is that when driving them at really high volumes I get issues. Fist it sometimes clips out, sometimes I lose the complete left or right sets of speakers. Also the amp gets REALLY hot at high volume around vented back top grill cover. To hot to even touch.

I guess my question is are my speakers adequate for super loud rock music, and do I need a bigger more powerful amplifier? If so any recommendations that don't cost a small fortune.

Amy help would be greatly appreciated.

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Now We’re talkin!

So I’m like you. I grew up in that era of the hair bands, glam, thrash...all of it. I have to completely honest. Pioneer is very ok. I don’t know what your budget is for your system. But as a fellow rocker...I know what it takes for a kick ass set up. I can help! I’m literally jamming to Ozzy’s No More Tears on cd as I’m typing this!

I’m not familiar with either of your front speakers or your amp. But I think it may be time for an upgrade somewhere. I like to start with the overlooked items...like speaker cables (doesn’t have to be pricey) and the power sources (like you DO NOT WANT a power strip from Staples powering your stereo lol).

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Reading your post again

So now that I’m re-reading your post. I see that you are pretty committed to the vintage route. Your Pioneer receiver and your Marantz are beautiful. I’m surprised the JBL’ s weren’t enough to impress. I’m not a huge fan of Pioneer or JBL but for low volume listening they are really fun.

However you want to jam. And jam loud. So if you’re saying your amp gets hot and starts clipping that tells me it can’t handle what your throwing at it. What about just two speakers (not all four) cranked? Does it behave the same? You’re gonna need some troubleshooting before you’re gonna get an answer. And I know loud very well. But it comes down to “headroom”.

So if it’s not loud at normal volume levels... like Let’s say at 9’oclock til 11 o’clock on a volume knob ( or 40-60% of a amp max volume) then we’re talking about something else. And the answer is always more juice (different amp requirements).

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