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Has anyone seen cable elevators used at live events or recording sessions when they actually make the music you play back and now the wire on teh floor matters? How come it didn't matter whan they where making teh original recordings?

LOL, that's a great point. Luv ya man. I don't care what anyone else says.

--Ethan

You're right DUP. The snake-oil salesmen from the church of high-end audio will never sell a single widget to a professional sound engineer. People who have to create a professional product rely on training, knowledge and a deep understanding of their equipment. If you tried to tell them that their mike cables need to be held off the floor to stop EMI or static or flying pigs out of the signal they'd say "that's what the shield is for!" before they laughed out loud. The only people that will consistently buy the pseudo scientific junk are the dummys who think that they arent hearing "all" of the music even when they've spent the equivalent of a new Jaguar on their HiFi. FOr these people there is no escape. They'll always think that there's something missing and the shysters will keep telling them so.

The fact is that the golden ear brigade are listening to music recorded, mixed and monitored through cable like Belden 8723 which is a foil shielded five conductor cable. It has two twisted stereo pairs and a drain wire. Now f you want to see real cables with real specs that have been scientifically designed , just head over to http://www.belden.com/ and see them in all their glory. This will be of no interest to the true audiophiles on this forum due to scientific content and a lack of "magic"

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"I can't hear a difference. I want my money back" Brave Audiophile.

Heh, here's mine:

"Everyone understands and accepts that the placebo effect is real, but for some reason audiophiles don't think it ever happens to them."

--Ethan

Exactly! That's why I only listen to recordings that were made "direct to disk", no wire to color the sound.

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No wire used in direct to disc recording? How do they mange that, oh, the Edison wax cylinder is that what you mean? cus' mics, and other stuff all have wires, even AC line cords that drive the discs as they are "cut". Maybe Edison wax cylcinders sound more live, since it has no wires, as you claim. Direct to disc, is still limited by the failings of the poor aspects of spinning vinyl. Noise, limited freq range. Let's go grind some plastic, it's so musical, just so perfect, yeah riiiiight.

Damn! Again I'm wrong. I thought that direct to disk meant that the music just appeared directly on the disk, thus the term "direct to disk". Damn false marketing.
Your comments about spinning vinyl got me thinking that for the $125,000 price of the Caliburton record player, I could make a "vinyl disk player" that holds the record stationary and moves the pickup. How cool would that be? Couldn't call it a turntable obviously.

Well, I'll solve this for y'all right now.

Everyone knows that electricity that comes in under ground is inferior to electricity brought in by high wires.

Therefore, the same must apply to our speaker cables!

What galls me is that the damn cable risers are only a few inches tall, they should run exactly halfway between the ceiling and floor and well removed from the walls.

The perfect cable riser would probably be wall mounted, with the cable kept equidistant between floor, ceiling, and wall.

Now, if you really wanna make things sound better, go dig up your house's main electrical line and put it on risers, too.

Letting it run through the cole cole groun' wreaks such havoc that even powerline conditioners can't recover your Hi Fidelity.

Don't listen to Buddha. Positioning wires mid point in a room will just increase the effect of room mode resonances.
You should always place your cables based on the golden ratio. Or not.

Not to mention, mounting them from the walls could introduce resonance
from lower frequencies vibrating!