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General advice appreciated :)

Hi,

So I just purchased the Sony STR-DH190 receiver after seeing a couple of videos about it being a great starter receiver, rated at 100WPC.

I also purchased some vintage Sansui sp30 speakers and loved the sound, but they seemed to only cover lower range levels.

So I heard (on YouTube) these new Sony SA-CS5 speakers were AMAZING , and after they went on sale on Amazon for $75/pr I had to get them..

I had the Sansui speakers in the A channel and the Sony speakers in the B channel.

When playing both channels they sound pretty good.. still not quite what I’m looking for.. But when I switch to the B channel and play the Song speakers I just don’t understand how people are raving about these. Absolutely zero bass. Not a very full sound at all.

Is there something obvious I’m missing here? Is it ok to run several channels (in my case only 2) at once?

I honestly feel like selling everything and starting over. I have become obsessed with reading speaker and reviver reviews. I think I got this audiophile big pretty bad, and at the same time I don’t know what the hell I’m doing.

Thanks for your help. - John

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The Sansui speaker are more

The Sansui speakers are more ancient than vintage and are distinguished more by their grill-work than their sound.

As for the cheap-and-cheerful(?) Sonys, if you are going to base your speaker purchases on reviews, rather than in-store auditions or detailed technical analysis, you need to be more selective in your choice of reviews. YouTube is like the old Wild West: There are no rules and anyone can say anything. Why would you trust them? Why not read our reviews?

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Actually, what you are saying

Actually, what you are saying makes perfect sense. I feel a bit foolish, actually. I suppose these are the things one learns along the way. Thank you for the advice.

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Stick to the forums

Yep, agree with Kal. I'd stick to the forums for advice. Most of us have gone through years of buying and selling equipment, have technical knowledge, and were once in the same place as you are now. I wouldn't bother with the Sony speakers (try to return them). Those Sansui's should do just fine. I'm surprised they're too bass-y, as I've heard that's where they lack. Have you tried adjusting the bass/treble settings on the amp to compensate? In the end, if you don't dig their sound, ditch those too and start over.

The amp is a decent enough starter, but if I was starting from scratch, I would first focus on the best quality source I could afford (turntable or CD player or streamer etc), then good quality speakers (vintage or new), then find an appropriate amp to power them. I imagine you're here to figure out how to put together a good sounding system on a certain budget. Do you have a budget in mind? Are you spinning vinyl, CDs, streaming? How big is the room? All this helps us help you :)

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Hi Hoytis, and thank you for

Hi Hoytis, and thank you for your reply. Actually the Sansui speakers do sound pretty good. Not too bassy, but slightly distorted. I bought the Sony speakers to try and fill in the higher levels. The Sony speakers are the ones that have absolutely zero bass. I am definitely going to try and sell some things and start over.
I love some of the vintage receivers, but was thinking about purchasing a Cambridge Audio AXA35 integrated amp.
One issue I’m having is there aren’t any places to go listen to / try out equipment in houston. There is one high end audio store that I’m aware of, but they sell SUPER high end equipment and would probably laugh at me if I asked about products in my price range. I’m a high school teacher, so my setup is gonna have to be pretty moderately priced.
Thanks again for the reply.

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Also, I’m not sure how I made

Also, I’m not sure how I made this mistake, but the Sansui speakers are the SP-100 model, not the Sp-30.

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Ah, big difference between

Ah, big difference between those speakers :) Sansui weren't really known for their speakers, and I think most people would agree that SP-100 are good, just not great. Regardless, if you're keeping them, I think they would be much happier being powered by the Cambridge amp, which is 35 watts, than the Sony at 100 watts. Those speakers are highly efficient and only rated for a max of 25 watts. I bet that's why you're distorting. Just not a good match.

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I see! Well I’m considering

I see! Well I’m considering selling the Sansui speakers and starting from scratch. I’ve heard good things about the Klipsch RP-500f and 800f speakers. They are a bit up there in price for me, but I might be able to pull it off. Do you have any opinions about the Klipsch RP floor speakers? Thank you for your help :)

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I haven't owned the floor

I haven't owned the floor standing speakers but I did have their bookshelfs and they sounded great, but too bright for my taste. I think it's the copper woofers that make them so crisp. If you dig that super clean sound, go for it. Great company. If you can swing it, get the 800s...a bigger woofer makes a ton of difference in bringing in those lower registers, not louder just more full sounding. And keep in mind they're rear-ported, so don't plan on having them crammed up against a wall or you'll get a boomy side effect that's not pleasant. If you're in tight quarters you might want to look at something else.

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Thank you!

Thanks again!
I’m starting with an Audio Technical AT-LP 120 turntable.My room a about 30 x 30.. I have about $800 to spend right now, but am trying to sell some equipment, and if successful will have absolutely it $1600. I really like the look of vintage equipment, but have been considering some newer analog equipment instead, like the Cambridge audio CX line paired with the Klipsch speakers previously mentioned. The trick will be doing all of this without my wife killing me first. lol

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Ha! Been there. Somehow you

Ha! Been there. Somehow you'll get what ya need. Another amp to consider is NAD C 316BEE v2 . Decent price, excellent sounding, and gives you some more power to fill that big room.

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Awesome! Thanks again. :)

Awesome! Thanks again. :)

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If possible, you should contact Audio Systems in Austin, TX. They might be able to allow you to audition any items you are interested in in person. However, we are in Stage 5 Covid-19 restrictions so I would speak with them before making the journey. I have no affiliation with them other than being a very satisfied customer over the years.

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Audio Systems

It's been years since I've visited Audio Systems, but they were great back then. Is Rice still working for them?

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Audio Systems cont.

Unfortunately Rice no longer works in the industry, but Stuart is extremely helpful and knowledgeable. He would definitely be able to assist John in his search for "audio nirvana".

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Welcome to the Jungle JGervais!

It’s really awesome to see how excited you are. You’re gonna get advice from many different points of view. I’ve found there to be some basic rules with this hobby.

1. No such thing as a budget too low (and eventually too high)
2. Read the reviews if you can’t demo gear
3. Outside of true “legacy” equipment (I.e, gear that was Stereophile top rated or Absolute Sound Top Pick from years back) the newer components really have much greater capability and quality over vintage equipment.
4. Do not underestimate proper speaker cables and interconnects. That is the fastest way to make small but meaningful leaps in quality. I was just bitten by the Kimber Kable bug and there’s no going back for me…after I was nuts about Audioquest
5. Starting small leaves you the opportunity to upgrade over time: months, years, whenever! It’s an anomaly for someone to build their dream system from day 1.
6. Let your ears tell you what you like! Same goes for wine…I can only tell you what I like…you may hate it, or you may agree
7. Your room placement of the speakers, distance to the rear, side and front walls affect the sound just as much as where you sit

Other than this nonsense I just typed… enjoy! Btw…your room is pretty large. Don’t try to fill it with a wall of sound so quick. Start small with book shelves and a sub. Then overtime move those bookshelves to the back and go heavy on floor standers! I just heard the tiny Sonus Faber Lumina 1’s a few days ago. Jaw dropping at what these pulled off. Again not cheap…but I thought they were in the same league or even bested the KefLS50’s.

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Thank you everyone!

I'm sorry I'm just now replying- I've been away for a week. I appreciate all of your advice!

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Somewhat Budget Suggestions

Kimber Kable is great stuff but Monoprice 12 gauge might get you by ntil your budget is more robust. Monitor Audio Silver 300's (used or demo) are among the best speakers avialable at or nera your $1600.

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Get something that does it all

After responding to your thread about a Sony personal media player and Schiit DAC, I figured I would chime in and suggest you take a look at the features of the NAD C 368 BluOS-2i and the Bluesound Powernode. (NOTE: The Powernode does not support phono.)

You can redirect the cost of the Sony and Schiit to the cost of an integrated amp with built-in streaming and DAC features.

I'll re-emphasize here: think about your use cases before you spend a penny.

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