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A $2000 integrated amp closest to the Mcintosh 5300

Hey folks,
Newbie here. I have listened to the MC5300 and love the sound.

Question- what is the closest I could get in sound quality for around $2000? I prefer known brands given my inexperience with not so popular brands regardless of the quality.

When recommending could you also recommend matching speakers?

Appreciate your feedback and support.
AMT.

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TALL ORDER!

I have a MAC MA5200 which, basically, is the same as the newer model MA5300. Conservatively rated at 100 watts (RMS) into 8 ohms, these amps have been bench tested and shown to be capable of, at least, 130 watts. Obviously, I love the sound, too, because I bought one. Finding something, new, of equivalent quality that sounds as sweet for around $2,000.00 is going to be a tall order! If you are not willing to consider used, you might want to have a listen to: Marantz Model 30; Musical Fidelity M5si; Rotel RA-1572; Rogue Audio Sphinx V3; Rega Elex R; Creek Audio Evolution 100A; NuPrime IDA 16. Some of these are a little over two grand but they are all highly rated and worth some critical listening time. There are others, as well. I have to be honest and say I've never heard any of the ones I just mentioned. However, I have spent a few hours critically listening to the Musical Fidelity M6si when I was shopping for my MAC. The M6si is a little over your budget but it's the closest thing I've personally heard that comes very close to the MAC MA5200 and MA5300. Last summer, I spent some serious seat time with the MA5300 when I was shopping for a new pair of speakers (Revel Performa3 F206). Speakers are such a personal choice. You really have to do serious seat time to figure out what your ears will like. However, given the price point of integrated amps you are shopping in, I would recommend you stick with relatively sensitive 8 ohm nominal load speakers. The Musical Fidelity M6si would be an exception to that because of its power & current reserves and build. Happy Hunting! Stay Safe! Stay Healthy! Stay home!

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Old Audiophile,

Old Audiophile,
Appreciate the response and suggestions. I may just bite the bullet and get the 5300, but still exploring options if I can get something significantly cheaper that can be on par at least 80-90% of the 5300. I will take a look at the M6 you have recommended.

With re to the speakers, what speakers are you using for the 5300, is it the Revel Performa3 F206?

thanks!

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COOL!

Sounds like you're about to do what I always do (i.e. shop with a budget in mind and always spend more when I hear something that blows me away). I think that's what audiophiles do. It's a curse! However, that curse puts a smile on your face from ear to ear! Pun fully intended!

If you're going to be biting the bullet, so to speak, and shopping in the MAC MA5300 price range, there are a few other integrateds you should read about and consider. That is, if you haven't already been seduced by those beautiful McIntosh VU meters. Don't forget, with McIntosh, you are paying to some degree, for the name, reputation and the fact it's assembled by hand in the USA. Of course, build quality is indisputable and the trade-in value reflects that. However, here's an amp I spent about 3 hours with in critical listening that, in my opinion, is every bit as good, maybe even better: Simaudio Neo 340 IX. A direct A/B shoot-out would be the only way I might be able to tell if the MAC MA5300 or MA5200 had any edge. Absolutely phenomenal amp! Again, without the benefit of a direct A/B shoot-out and based upon my audible memory, I thought the Simaudio was better than the Musical Fidelity M6si. The Simaudi has great power, excellent build quality and a great current supply. It's Canadian. There are other integrateds at this price point that are also well reviewed but this Simaudio is one I've heard personally and can vouch for.

With regard to speaker choice(s), after excruciatingly extensive research, reading and hours upon hours of critical listening, I chose the Revel Performa3 F206 for my MAC MA5200 and other considerations (i.e. my sound room; sound room acoustics; etc.). If you're interested in my speaker selection exploits, take a look at "Time to Upgrade Speakers" and "Sequel to Time to Upgrade Speakers" in this forum. I've also posted something about this in the feedback section of Soundstage. This will give you a glimpse into how much of a borderline obsessive compulsive audiophile I tend to be.

Good Luck!

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I strongly reommend the Musical Fidelity M5si.

IMO it sounds better than anything else at the price.

It will also drive 99% of the speakers on the planet with no strain.

It is rated for 150 watts per channel at 8 ohms, and wil deliver over 200 watts to 4 or 6 ohm speakers.

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Old-Audiophile-
Appreciate the recommendations. I happened to stop by my local stereo store and they demo'd the Moon- but it was a high end model priced around $15K- can't remember the model, but it sounded really good. That was the fist time I heard about the Simaudio brand. When I am ready for an amp- hoping in about 2-3 months time, I will make sure to spend time listening the various speakers.

Commysyman- thanks. I will check out the Ms5 next time I am at the store. That is about the price range I am most interested in.

That all said, I must say that to me, both the moon and ms5 don't look that good cosmetically. From the outside they don't like like serious amps. I will report back on what I end up with.
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LOOKS OR SOUND?

You need to decide what's more important to you (i.e. looks or sound). Personally, as a lover of music, I couldn't care less about cosmetics. I want my components to perform. If you can, I would encourage you to arrange for an A/B shout-out between the MAC MA5300 and the Simaudio Neo 340 IX and/or either of those two and the Musical Fidelity M6si. If sound performance is what you're after first and foremost but cosmetics jerks your chain, bring a blindfold or have the sales person, if possible, refrain from telling you which component is playing at any given time. Bring music you are very familiar with for auditions. If you're back to sticking closer to your original budget, although I haven't heard it, I have a lot of faith in Commysysman's opinion on the Musical Fidelity M5si. He and one other notable & knowledgeable audiophile provided me with very sound guidance when I was shopping for my amp 3 years ago, suggesting the Musical Fidelity M6si. I spent about 3 hours in serious seat time with it and it was/is a fantastic amp. About half an hour later on the same day, I spent a couple hours with the MAC MA5200 in another shop. I thought both performed extremely well and honestly couldn't tell much, if any difference, in sound quality between the two. So, why did I decide to go with the MAC? For a number of reasons I won't bore you with here but I could just as easily have saved a thousand bucks and gone with the Musical Fidelity. Herein lies the rub in all of this. Listening to components in different shops, different sound rooms, with different components, at different times, make it, often times, virtually impossible to discern which really sounds better. The only way to do this is in direct A/B shout-outs, which are virtually impossible to arrange these days. Unfortunately, gone are the days of the large shops with huge inventories who could set up demonstrations like this and give you a button you could use to switch back & forth from one component to the other so you could listen for any differences. Audible memory is not very reliable, especially as time rolls on, when it comes to comparing components of similar quality and shop owners, sales people, etc. tend to set up what they want to sell you as optimally as possible in their sound rooms so everything sounds good. With speakers, probably more so than any other component, things may sound good in auditions at the shops but will, almost invariably, sound different under your own roof. Good Luck!

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So after having given enough time to think through this and working with a Bestbuy sales person at Magnolia , I have decided to go with the following configuration:
- MA5300 Integrated amp
- Kef R7 speakers
- Rel t9i subwoofer
- Bluesound media streamer

In the end, I had to choose between the MA5300 Vs the Rotel RC1590 MKII/ RB1590 combo. They cost about the same, but selected the 5300 due to it being integrated which makes it more mobile around the house when needed.

I was able to demo both of these configs at the Bestbuy store through the mentioned speakers. I also discovered that I do need a subwoofer. Though I don't need earth shattering bass, setting the rel9 at a level 3 was optimum for my ears.

I have put down a down-payment on the Kefs because they are discounted now. BB will hold it for me at that price for 3 months if I change my mind. The 5300 apparently has a long lead time of 6 weeks.

I hope to complete the purchase within the next month or so. Also waiting for any potential Xmas sales.

Let me know your thoughts on this. Appreciate everyone's feedback and encouragement so far, on this topic.

AMT.

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Interesting

That’s a pretty decent setup. I have to speak up. Buying your equipment from Magnolia is the equivalent of buying a Corvette from a used car dealer at a junkyard.

I understand that not everyone has the ability to drive long distances to hear the exact equipment they are longing to hear.

Asking advice for recommendations on a $2000 amp and then saying screw it…and starting a tab around $10,000 at a Best Buy is kind of ridiculous. Especially since you started the thread with “Newbie here”. I’m trying to say politely…your Best Buy salesman reeled you in…hook, line and sinker.

I do apologize and I’m not trying to disrespect or insult the decision you’ve made. I auditioned the R11 at a Best Buy for fun as well at one point. Rel, Mac’s and Bluesound are fantastic components.

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Thanks for the response.
Not following your logic about purchasing this at Magnolia instead. Are you indicating I am overpaying? There are not any dealers around that carry Mcintoshes to demo here. Please clarify and I feel no disrespect.

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What I meant was….

Again, apologies for how that may have come off. There are perks to buying from Best Buy. No interest financing, some well known brands to explore and a location is typically pretty close to home.

The drawback is not the pricing strategy of Best Buy (you’re not getting ripped off by any means). It’s the lack of knowledge by the sales people. Trust me, I am not a know it all. I’m hanging out in the Entry level thread too. I’ve been into all things audiophile related since I was a young. But it wasn’t until the last decade that I’ve been building up my system. I’ve encountered a lot of good advice and a lot of bad advice.

What I can tell you is, that on paper your system sounds like an all star line-up of components. However, a true professional could take your budget in full and spend less on the components (except the Bluesound…$ for $ that is awesome) and include speaker cables & interconnects (that match the signature of the speakers) a power supply, sub cable etc and that will produce a different sonic experience.

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For the last 4 years or so, I've been involved in what is, for me, intensive research, critical listening and upgrading what used to be my base two channel audio system. During this time, I found the components that interested me were generally all the same price no matter where I looked (i.e. shops or reputable on-line dealers). I never really encountered any sales prices. Bargaining with a salesperson was the only way to catch some slack. This is especially effective when you're dropping a bundle in the same place. So, amt7565, I wouldn't worry too much about over-paying. By all means, shop around, do your due diligence and do some good old American horse trading with salespeople when you can. However, I think it very unlikely quality components are going to vary that much in price, no matter where you go, unless a manufacturer is phasing out a product line (e.g. great deals on Monitor Audio speakers right now). Actually, a big box store like a Magnolia might likely have a bigger inventory than a small neighborhood shop and, as a result, might be more willing to bargain.

I agree with Dorsia777 with regard to sales expertise. Most, if not all, of the salespeople I've encountered in Magnolia stores weren't that great with advice, knowledge or guidance. I've, also, never been in a Magnolia sound room that was worth much. While I agree, generally speaking, that "a true professional" or even a seasoned non-professional audiophile, for that matter, "could take your budget in full and spend less on the components (except the Bluesound…$ for $ that is awesome) and include speaker cables & interconnects (that match the signature of the speakers) a power supply, sub cable etc and that will produce a different sonic experience", the clincher, here, is: "a different sonic experience". Cables, interconnects, gold-plated bananas or spades, power supplies, etc. are not, in any significant way, going to make up the difference between a lower echelon audio system and an incrementally higher echelon of quality core components. Looking at your lineup, the only questions I would have are: "why the sub" and the "Kef R7"? This might be a function of the sound room you were listening to this stuff in. Your own home acoustics are, I would imagine, going to be different and that's what to keep in mind. Are you going to use this system you are buying for TV, as well as music? Do you listen to a lot of pipe organ music? Is that where the sub comes in? With regard to the KEF, not my cup of tea. However, that's MY EARS, MY PERSONAL TASTES IN MUSIC; NOT YOURS! Yours are the only thing that matters! More than any other audio components, I think speakers are the most intensely personal and variable choice. You should get what sounds best TO YOU!

P.S. Make sure Magnolia or whoever you buy from gives you plenty of time to break stuff in and be able to take things back if they don't sound as good (after sufficient break-in) under your roof. Enjoy!

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Good advise both! thanks.
I visited the store exactly a year ago and reconnected with the same sales person again recently who seems to be knowledgeable in HiFi. He also went out of the way to move equipment around two rooms at Magnolia to run comparisons between different systems and then connect the subwoofer as well to give me a broader spectrum of products to analyze and choose from. There was never any sales pressure.

That said, this is my first HiFi and I have come to acknowledge that I need to be practical- I can't have the greatest of systems on my first try. Over time I will come to learn if I am satisfied and or, if I need something better. Currently I own the AIWA exos bookshelf and I can't tell you enough how pleased I am with it (Cost $300.00).

Dorsia- yeah though I started looking for a $2K amp, that was my post from a year ago. But over the months I have come to realize that I would need a higher end system just by reading a ton of reviews. Also my financial situation improved a bit giving me a little more flexibility.

OldAudiophile you have a good question on why I want the Rel. In the acoustic room at Magnolia, I felt I needed a tad more bass. Perhaps I should leave the REL out for now and see how it sounds at my place first? I listen to mainstream music mostly. Btw- I did ask to demo the revel f206 based on your initial suggestion but they don't carry it. They did play a couple of other speakers as well- some a lot more pricey.

I have put a down pay on the Kefs- I can change my mind if I wanted to. I also put a down payment on the MA5300- it has a 14 week lead time unfortunately. So it may be here by March, 2022.

Finally guys- any recommendation on cables/interconnects? That is something I have not explored much.

thanks again
AMT.

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Don’t Rule Out ML 60xti and SVS

Within Bestbuy Magnolia I strongly suggest the Martin Logan 60xti (20% 0ff sale) and an SVS SB-3000 sealed subwoofer. I have heard the ML 60xti several times and a friend of mine and I thought it bested a Golden Ear Triton 2 in direct comparison. To our ears it also bested a Kef R7 we heard. To your ears you may end up still liking the Kef but it is worth hearing the ML 60xti. I own an SVS SB-2000 and it has performed at an excellent musicality as well as home theater muscle. The SB 3000 has an app ability to control settings to your liking. My SB 2000 does not but the new SB 2000 Pro does.

If you want to redeploy your funding priorities you could go with an SB 2000 now on sale and just buy a Revel Performa 3 F206. A friend of mine and I spent much of 20020 on a speaker “vision quest” and he bought the Performa 3 F206. It has a compelling treble and midrange and a good deal better bass then the specs indicate. There are few speakers I could say this about but the Revel Performa 3 F206 is a “just buy it” speaker even if you can’t audition it first. It’s big brother, the Performa 3 F208 has haunted me ever since I heard it.

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BluesDog wrote:

Within Bestbuy Magnolia I strongly suggest the Martin Logan 60xti (20% 0ff sale) and an SVS SB-3000 sealed subwoofer. I have heard the ML 60xti several times and a friend of mine and I thought it bested a Golden Ear Triton 2 in direct comparison. To our ears it also bested a Kef R7 we heard. To your ears you may end up still liking the Kef but it is worth hearing the ML 60xti. I own an SVS SB-2000 and it has performed at an excellent musicality as well as home theater muscle. The SB 3000 has an app ability to control settings to your liking. My SB 2000 does not but the new SB 2000 Pro does.

If you want to redeploy your funding priorities you could go with an SB 2000 now on sale and just buy a Revel Performa 3 F206. A friend of mine and I spent much of 20020 on a speaker “vision quest” and he bought the Performa 3 F206. It has a compelling treble and midrange and a good deal better bass then the specs indicate. There are few speakers I could say this about but the Revel Performa 3 F206 is a “just buy it” speaker even if you can’t audition it first. It’s big brother, the Performa 3 F208 has haunted me ever since I heard it.

Bluesdog,
The rep told me he would try to get the f206 in store for a demo. He said he wanted on in the store anyway and was already looking to get one. So I will definitely listen to it if that happens. The Kefs were also discounted btw.

Regarding the SB-2000, wow that is way discounted, so will be worth checking it out. I will check next time I am over there at the store. Thanks for the tip btw.

Any suggestions on the cables?

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Speaker Wire and Interconnects

Didn't think Bestbuy carried Revel but if they do that is good.
My knowledge in this area is limited and few things will ignite debate more then speaker wire (especially) and interconnects. I can only speak a little about stuff mortals can afford. I’ve heard Kimber Kable and Audioquest both of which are very good. The Kimber Kable was a little cooler but detailed then the AQ, which is a little on the warm side. The Audioquest Type 4 is nice if you can still get it. The Kimber Cable 4 or 8 is less fatiguing then the 12. The Audioquest Evergreen has been a good interconnect but you should look above that level if you can. Some Transparent speaker wire impressed me but is very expensive. Brian at Audio Advisor is a great source for your questions. Places like this can provide custom lengths and terminations for you.

In looking for speaker wire you want to augment characteristics that “make up the difference” in your system/speakers. If your speakers sound “warm” the Kimber Cable might flesh things out nicely. If your speakers are well detailed but could use a touch more bass, the AQ’s could help subtly balance that.

Plenty will scoff at this but I had an excellent experience with Monoprice 12 gauge speaker wire. I read an article about the best affordable speaker wire in Wire cutter and said ‘What the hell, $50.00 for 100 feet, why not?” They replaced Monster wire 16 gauge and the difference was not subtle. There are better spades and baanaa connectors out there but some Mediabridge connectors did just fine. Some espouse bare wire as the best connection but I have found that bare wire oxidized over time. And if you have large fingers setting up babanas and or spade lugs once makes life easier.

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Bluedog,
Apologies for my delayed response - appreciate your added insight. I ended up buying the Rocket 88 series cable based on the original recommendation by the sales rep.

I finally received the MA5300 yesterday 2 months ahead of schedule. Right now I am connected to the Kef R7s trying to get a feel for the speakers. I have not connected the Sub yet.

What I have found out is that I am lacking a little volume for my liking, maybe another 25% is what is needed. I have maxed out the MA5300 volume at 100% but can us a tad more. A tad disappointed at that.

I am streaming through the Blousound iNode DAC.

Some of the music sound really great with tight bass- albums by Police, Floyd, Dire Straits, NY Jazz music etc. I think I would be fine without the Sub for these types of music.

However hard rock music does not sound that great at all. Right now streaming through Amazon Prime Ultra HD.

Anyway thought I would share my first experience. Will report back after few days on my experience.

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Be Patient. Burn In The Speakers

Give the Kefs more time. Burnin on a variety of music at reasonable levels will see things open up and become more extended.

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I’m happy to hear that you have your amp and speakers! You will need about 50-100 hours of burn in time to get everything ready before critical listening.

As for you being able to max the volume out and wish for more with a McIntosh…I don’t think ever heard someone say that. So either your room is cavernous…or you don’t have the settings right. I don’t have experience with that particular model but I can tell you with other models, it’s gets pretty awesome way under.

Also, you are breaking in an amp, speakers and cables

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Hey Guys,
So I am excited to report that I am absolutely delighted with the new system. it appears I had not tweaked any of the settings initially. Then I read the users manual.

The MA5300 came with default settings- the Trim was set to off and Bass/Treble were off. Once I elevated these, the stereo sprang to life. The volume is now plenty and so is the Bass. This means I will be returning the sub. I am not even going to open the sub box.

I also subscribed to Tidal and love its app. So things are looking pretty good right now. I have played about 4-5 hours so far, so will keep listening.

Thanks for all the feedback. I will get back with anything else I can report on.

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Nice!

I was gonna say…that amp doesn’t mess around. Just enjoy it! Congrats again.

It’s going to keep changing and smoothing out over time. While this is all happening look into getting your room set-up perfect as this will also effect the sound at your listening position.

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Thanks!

Thanks!
Yeah I will look for opportunities to optimize my room as I move forward with this experience. The system is in the bedroom where I do most of the chilling lol.

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Amt7565, I was just checking in here and when I read: "... I am lacking a little volume for my liking, maybe another 25% is what is needed. I have maxed out the MA5300 volume at 100% but can (use) a tad more" and then, later, that your system is in your bedroom, I thought HOLY CRAP! Assuming this person has everything hooked up properly, they either have a bedroom the size of a school auditorium, a severe bi-lateral hearing loss, defective speakers or, much less likely, a defective or damaged MAC amp! When I'm in the mood to really rock it out, I like to listen at concert or performance levels or very near that and I've never exceeded 60% for vinyl listening and 55% for CD's and other digital sources with my MAC MA5200. This is in a sound room (i.e. my living room) that is 14' X 25', has a 9' solid wood ceiling with large, exposed beams and 5" solid wood walls. My home is a post & beam log home. I've never used the Trim function on my MAC and never contour the sound on any amp I've had (i.e. bass; treble; balance; etc.). I always prefer listening to recordings flat out, the way good recordings are intended to be heard. Anytime you sense a need to contour what's on a recording, that's an indication of a poor recording and/or poor sound engineering. This is one reason why I don't listen to streamed music very often. I've found it's often difficult or impossible to ensure the source material is always going to be the best recording. Haven't experienced Tidal, but some streaming service providers, who shall remain nameless here, are not very good, as far as my ears are concerned. Qobuz seems to be the service many audiophiles prefer. Haven't experienced that one, yet.

With regard to cable and interconnect suggestions, opining on this subject is the quickest way to start a fight in an empty bar! With regard to speaker cables, IMHO, the most important factors to consider here are length relative to gauge, quality of materials used in manufacturing and quality of manufacturing & assembly. Just make sure the lengths of both your right and left channel speaker cables are as short as possible, exactly the same length to one another, even though one may not need to be, and use the thickest gauge wire possible. You don't need to spend a mint, here, to get top notch sound. You can prove that to yourself, if you are so inclined. Most audio shops will have speaker cables they'll let you take home and try out for yourself before you buy. Some may even have demo interconnects you can try out at home, as well. If you're interested in doing a little light reading on this, have a look at this:

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/the-best-speaker-cable/is

Be sure to click on the links embedded in this article because there is a lot of good information there, as well. You might also be interested in having a gander at "Can a Worms" in the Cables section of this forum.

All the best! Welcome to the MAC family! Enjoy!

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OldAudiophile,
Thanks for writing and the added insights. I responded yesterday but for some reason I don't see that post here- looks like it disappeared.
Anyway, here are some parameters for my listening environment:

My room is about 300sq.ft with 9'ft ceilings. The speakers faces the bed. The cables are 10' long and there is about 1-2' wiggle room left for possibly spreading the speakers further apart. The cables I have are Rocket88 (they are pretty pricey) so not sure if there is any loss there.
I have the TRIM elevated by 3.0 DB, both Bass/Treble by 6.0DB. Once I brought it to these levels they really gave the volume a lot more headroom.
I am using the Bluesound DAC via RCA cables. So I am bypassing the MA5300 DAC. Thoughts on that?
I like the Tidal app a lot- but yes the recording volume differs from album to album. I don't think this has to do with the streaming though.
I wish I could listen to a flat response, but over the years I have come to like a little bit of Bass. I am not sure if I can adjust my listening taste this late in life.

Another question- I have a Rel Sub sitting in a box unopened. Thinking of returning it. So the question is- is it better to bring the MA5300 back to neutral/flat response and attach the sub, or leave it as is and return the sub? Trying not to open the box so that I can return it clean.
Btw- the link you posted is not working.
thanks.

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Some thoughts

You might want to try ditching the RCA cables hook-up between the Bluesound and the MAC and go with a good quality digital coax cable, instead. You don't need to spend lots of dough here. Take a look at something like the Pangea Audio Premier SE or the AudioQuest Cinnamon. Frankly, save some bucks. The Pangea is less expensive, has very similar build and is just as good.

Now, the bass question. Have you got your speakers on spikes? Generally speaking, with quality speakers, spikes will give you cleaner, tighter, more accurate and less boommie bass. If you've got wood floors, carpeting or whatever and if you're worried about damaging the floor or carpeting, there are ways around that (i.e. isolators). No offense but, as I indicated earlier, I did some seat-time with the KEF R7 and my ears liked other speakers more. Remember that commercial with the little old lady who said: "Where's the beef?" Well, my historical experiences with most British speakers has always led me to feel: "Where's the bass?" A notable exception to that would be the Monitor Audio Silver 300 and 500. I've never been into boommie bass. I like the bass response to be clean, tight and accurate, as close to the live performance as possible. Given what you are indicating, I'd try spiking your KEF's and bringing the MAC back to flat response. If that doesn't do it for you, then bring the sub into the mix and try to dial it in as best you can.

Links on this website leave a lot to be desired. Did you try copying and pasting the link into your browser? If that doesn't work, try Googling: "The Best Speaker Cable - Reviews by Wirecutter". That should do the trick.

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The more I’m reading this…

I agree completely with our friend “OA”.

That amp and those room dimensions…all your bedroom furniture included would blow your roof off, if you decked that model amp. I’d even imagine they are up against your walls and each speaker has two rear ports, so if anything it would produce a larger bass response. The break in for all your components has to happen first. That means playing about 100hrs at a low to normal volume but actively trying to loosen the drivers. I don’t listen to this type music but the forum geeks were right…Thomas Dolby’s “May the Cube be with you” is a great workout for your speakers.

OA is right…my father has a few different Mac stacks. Once that knob starts climbing over the mid 40’s and into the 50’s…the party starts!

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Hey Guys,
Thanks so much for posting. So first off, I learned in another forum that there was a huge miss in the setup of the Bluesound streamer app. The volume was set to low and hence the output of the speakers was also low. Once I set this to "fixed" the amp volume dramatically increased. I then brought down the TRIM and Bass/Treble back to default. Now I am listening to the MA5300 at about 25-30% tops and it sounds just great.

Additionally I opened up the Sub and started experimenting with it. It certainly adds an extra dimension to the sound and power. So I have decided to keep it. I do have it set at a minimum going by the mantra "a sub should be seen, not heard".

I am really enjoying the music system now. It's keeping me up late and I am losing sleep:)
Feels wonderful to go back in time and listen to all your old favorite bands from a new perspective.

thanks for all your feedback and help.

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