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Advices for a new system

Dear all,

Could someone pls help me with advices for selecting a new high-end system, which includes the following components:

- Streamer featuring wifi/usb/bluetooth connectivity
- Integrated amplifier (for space saving purpose)
- Speakers
- I may also add a CD player later on.

My future use cases are: listening of CDs (reference quality), high resolution audio files.

I had before an old system (that I have given away when I moved last year) composed of Micromega CD-Player,
separated Micromega DAC, Electrocompaniet ECI-1, Lynn Kaber.

I would look mainly into the well renowned brands for quality/reliability like: McIntosh, Accuphase, Mark Levinson, Dynaudio,...
with the following weight constrains: amplifier should weigh at most about 35 Kg and speaker 40-50Kg each.

Thanks in advance for your advices!

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Define "high-end"

It would be easier for people to give you recommendations by defining what you mean by "high-end". What's your target budget and for what? Two channel? Multi-channel? TV? Movies? Dimensions of your listening room?

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Define "high-end"

It would be easier for people to give you recommendations by defining what you mean by "high-end". What's your target budget and for what? Two channel? Multi-channel? TV? Movies? Dimensions of your listening room?

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By "High End", I mean a

By "High End", I mean a system that reproduces accurate sounds, with details throughout the frequency range, in particular bass with depth and precision.
Am looking for a 2-channels stereo system for listening my (high resolution) records, mainly smooth jazz.
No TV sound surround. My room in the basement is about 40 m2. And my budget would be around 40-50K CAD.
Thanks

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Not sure this qualifies as entry level...

The above replies are some good points. My second question is what is your current system? You can spend the money real fast but if you don’t know what youre doing or what your end goal is...you’re gonna end up at a Best Buy with B&W’s, McIntosh Amps (both of those are great)...Audioquest Type 4 cables...stock inter connects...meanwhile your power sources will all plugged into a power strip from Target. Or they’ll try and sell you a 10k power conditioner.

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LOTS OF CASH!

Dorsia makes excellent points! You have lots of cash in your budget and there are lots of snake oil sales people out there who will see you coming from a mile away if you have no or little idea of what you're doing and trying to accomplish. If you are, indeed, starting from scratch in the audiophile know-how department, I would strongly recommend that you visit as many high-end, reputable audio shops as possible, ask to listen to systems in your budget range and take notes, brochures, etc. Doing a healthy amount of reading & research wouldn't hurt, either. If you have an audiophile friend who could provide proper guidance, that would be helpful as well. Does "40 m2" mean 40 square meters? The size and shape of your room matters with regard to acoustics, as does ceiling height and other factors (e.g. concrete floor? carpeting? furniture? listening position? etc.). This should be factored into your critical listening sessions or auditions. It would be woefully easy to spend 50K CAD on a system that doesn't sound any better and even worse than a 20K CAD system. Higher prices do not necessarily equate to higher quality. For 40 or 50K CAD, you should be able to get a system that nocks your socks off! Given the size, dimensions and acoustic properties of your sound room, you may find you don't need to spend anywhere near that much to achieve outstanding sound performance.

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Refine your approach

1. Determine your use cases for audio enjoyment. (Recommend that you don't prioritize Bluetooth.)
2. Audition as many speakers as you can to determine which sound best to YOU -- preferably in YOUR environment.
3. Determine the requirements to properly drive your desired speakers.
4. Research which amps satisfy both #1 and #3 above.

That said, if after determining your use cases you find that you still seek an integrated amp with connectivity, take a look at the features of the following:
- Mark Levinson No.5805
- Devialet Expert 220 Pro
- NAD Masters Series M33

NOTE: I have not personally auditioned any of the above mentioned IAs, so this is more of an awareness comment than a recommendation.

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First decide whether you want

First decide whether you want to set the world on fire or just enjoy some tunes. Probably best to invest your money in alternative energy stocks and good reliable transportation. Stimulus checks are probably not going to happen any more.

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One advise from me. DO NOT

One advise from me. DO NOT IGNORE THE ROOM!. The room and speaker positioning makes 70% of the sound you perceive, if not more. 1M system will sound crappy in crappy room, that's for sure. Treat you room properly and make sure you position speakers properly.

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You will have to do some

You will have to do some listening. A McIntosh and Mark Levinson system could not be much more different. If you don’t live near any high end stores, then I would plan a trip to a big city with one. Given your budget, I would call them up and explain the kind of music you listen to and explain on trip one you want to get a feel for the field as a whole... so maybe sample a tube system and a solid state system... let them plan and set up a couple rooms for you. Then after an initial trip. Read about what you heard... maybe take notes. Don’t listen to choose... just listen to hear and appreciate. Take a list of stuff you like listening to.

Cross off blue tooth. It has no place in a high end system.

Every component is critical (the streamer is very important), as is DAC, Preamp, and amp. I would not worry about high end interconnects at first purchase. But many people would say 10 - 15% of budget... I recommend getting the best components you can first.

You want a dealer you can trust. You need to feel comfortable they are working for you. And yes, normally they are going to recommend what they sell. So going to a large well established dealer is important. Until you have a good system it is hard to evaluate individual components and choose how they will work in your system. Spending a bit more than you might on-line can be extremely valuable. Buying less expensive stuff on line is a great way to get a crappy sounding set of components.

There is a large number of systems that could make you very happy. There is not one best. And exposure will change your idea of what you want, so exposure is really important.

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Thanks JDFlood, much

Thanks JDFlood, much appreciate

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You Could Do Much Worse Then This

Trying to stay within $50,000 budget. I will let others speak about streamers.

Classe Delta Preamp and Amp. What is unique here is that these are DESIGNED to be safely stacked.

Revel Salon 2 (Or Performa 328Be if pushed over budget.)

Marantz SA-10 CD/SACD Player

Tributaries Plus speaker wire

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Have Heard Classe and Transparent

Have heard the Classe stack and sounded very very good. Transparent speaker wire was surprisingly good. You might also want to have a dedicated 20 amp receptacle put in by an electrician to do justice to your equipment.

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