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Pre Amp suggestions

Hi
Im looking for a pre amp to pair wth an ARC VT200 driving Thiel Cs3.6 Speakers
Budget 2500 - 4k or tbere abouts
Aim to play vinyl and CD’s - (don't have a cd player yet.
Thanks in Advance

Update:
Opted for Parasound JC-1’s

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Food for Thought!

Get a preamp with a good built-in DAC and a CD transport, rather than a CD Player. Another option: preamp + external DAC + CD transport. With your budget, however, the first option is probably more realistic unless, of course, you might be inclined to stretch that just a wee bit.

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That’s Easy

The best used Audio Research Preamp you can find. If I had to identify the greatest strength of Audio Research, it is preamps. I searched for a great preamp 40 years ago and finally stopped looking after acquiring a used audio research preamp. Stretch to get the best you can afford and you will never need to buy another one. In my case I upgraded ARC preamps over the years and then ended up swapping all my equipment for ARC... now all contemporary Reference level. You get an extra boost when pairing ARC stuff together. That is of course assuming that is if you like the sound. Accurate, detailed, musical, well balanced. It you want bass heavy then go for MAC, or hyper detailed tilted cold... many manufacturers.

Also, consider streaming instead of CDs. Manufacturers are discontinuing CD players. A good DAC and Streamer and for $19.99 a month (price of a couple CDs) you have access to nearly infinite music much available in resolution higher than Red book CD.

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Preamp

I have had the Audio Research LS26 preamp for over 15 years now, and it is superb. The sound is to die for, and it has 6 balanced inputs and 3 balanced outputs, which are just what I need. If you could find a used one for 3 grand or so, jump on it. Their reliability is rock-solid. Mine has never needed repair.

I saw a LS22 online for around $2000. That is also a very good one.

For an unbelievably good-sounding player, I have and recommend the Marantz SA10. I have never heard any other player that sounds absolutely like "the real thing". It is $7000, but anyone who hears it won't be satisfied with anything else. It is MUSIC!!!

drwho1962 wrote:

Hi
Im looking for a pre amp to pair wth an ARC VT200 driving Thiel Cs3.6 Speakers
Budget 2500 - 4k or tbere abouts
Aim to play vinyl and CD’s - (don't have a cd player yet.
Thanks in Advance

Update:
Opted for Parasound JC-1’s

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Phono Stage

Thank you JD. I just bought an Audio Research Ref3 preamp.
Now I am looking for a suitable phono stage to pair with it. More broadly to the forum community, Id then also appreciate some advice on cartridges for any set up that was recommended.

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Progress brings more questions

Hello And thank you for the comments and advice thus far. Ive made a couple of purchases, the latest being a Maranntz 6007 CD player and an Audio Research Ref-3 preamp.
I already have Thiel CS3.6 Speakers and Parasound JC-1 Monos, and a Mk1 Oracle Delphi

The next questions relate to phono stage recommendations to pair with the Ref-3. Beyond that I’ll be needing some help with choosing a cartridge -mm vs mc
But for now, where should I be focussing my phono-stage efforts, given what I already have?
Many thanks in advance.
Frank

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Am I doing this A about face?

As per my previous post Im searching for the right phono stage amp to pair with my Audio Research Ref3 Line Amp.
Im reading about gain and issues to do with cartridge choice, volume, and mass. Im out of my depth here.

That has got me thinking. Maybe Im approaching this wrong. Perhaps I need to match my t/table and tone arm with a cartridge first, and then figure out what phono-stage is going to provide the best interface between cartridge and line amp.
I have a mint Mk1 Oracle Delphi with a Magnepan Uni Trac Arm.
Do I go MC or MM?
If so, What would be the best match?
Following on from that, what Phono stage is going to provide the best interface between tone arm and my ARC Ref 3 Preamp/ Parasound JC-1 Mono’s/Thiel CS3.6 Speakers.

Thanks
Frank

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Audio Research Phono Stages are outstanding

Audio Research Phono stages are really pre-preamps... and they are also top notch and very synergistic with your ARC REF 3. I started with something like an PH2 then PH2se.. SH5... PH8... and finally REF3. Unless you get some some really bizarre cartridge it should be a perfect match. The ARC is designed for high quality cartridges. As always, the highest level you can afford. I cannot recommend it enough. I have owned a number of high quality moving coil cartridges and it has done great with them. Currently a Koetsu Rosewood Signature.

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Phono-stage and Cartridges

Hi JD
Thanks - I needed to hear that. There are quite a number (too many for me to ignore) of comments reporting problems with inadequate volume. Some of the advice is technical and too complicated for me to get my head around.
I was looking at a PH 3 se because they are affordable but Id prefer a Ref 2 se. The prohibitive factor is cost at this point.
Id also toyed with the notion of a Coincident Statement phono-stage that has one line output, with a phonostage. They dont come up often, so I assume that those that own them are satisfied with them.
These are my short list, having ruled out other phonostage alternatives for different reasons.
Im going to pull some data on my magnepan uni trac arm, to see what cartridge specs best suit it. I have a hunch that medium mass cartridges rather than low mass might be the sweet spot. Im hoping that someone in the forum can provide some guidance on this.
Once again, thanks for the time and effort taken to post replies, and for the pragmatic well pitched advice. I appreciste it
Thanks Frank

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