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Mcintosh MT 5 and Lyra Kleos

I am interested in the Macs MT5 table. I know the weak point in it is the cartridge. Does anyone know if that arm is capable of producing the best out of the Lyra Kleos? No dealer has this configuration so I am unable to do a demo but I have heard very good thing about the Lyra. Any advice?

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Tough one

I looked at that table because I love the way it looks and the reviews are really strong. I have also heard it and it sounds spectacular, even with the stock cartridge. It is also made by Clearaudio and has one of their arms. I would be surprised if it isn’t up to the task.

The only caveat is that I was listening to it through the Mc C-22 preamp which has an ungodly good phono stage in it. I don’t know how much was the table and how much was the phono stage.

Ultimately I didn’t have the budget for it and went with an older Linn LP12 with a lightly used Lyra Kleos. The Kleos has a sound profile like the BluePoint, it just delivers...more. Better detail. Soundstage is more dimensional and there is a sweetness to voices I have never heard from another cartridge.

Given that it delivers so much from the BluePoint I am optimistic the MT5 would handle the Kleos really well. What phono stage do you have? That is the other big factor.

The Kleos was a funny setup. They had guidance on a range of settings for the cartridge and said when you hit the right settings, you will know. It is very, very true.

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I am thinking of getting a

I am thinking of getting a Mac C52 or C2600. I think the phono stage on both are the same? Or is Mp1100 better phono stage? I have not decided. What do you think?

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I would get the c-22

Easy. I would get the re-issue of the McIntosh C-22. Price is right and the phono stage is better than the others. It is one of the best I have ever hear until you get to silly prices like the Manley Steelhead. Yes, eventually you need to deal with tubes but usually in a preamp that is every 2500-3000 hours so it will be a while.

I was going to pick one up until I got a stupidly good deal on a PS Audio BHK Signature. The BHK is a slightly better line stage but doesn’t have a phono stage. Now that I am hunting for a phono stage I think I made the wrong choice. It is one of my favorite preamps and if I see a C-22 used I am going to pick one up.

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Amplifier

For $2999 you can get a Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amplifier including a very fine phono stage, a huge amount of clean power, and balanced inputs.
I think this unit is an incredible value, with sound quality on a par with units costing 2 to 3 times as much!

bierfeldt wrote:

Easy. I would get the re-issue of the McIntosh C-22. Price is right and the phono stage is better than the others. It is one of the best I have ever hear until you get to silly prices like the Manley Steelhead. Yes, eventually you need to deal with tubes but usually in a preamp that is every 2500-3000 hours so it will be a while.

I was going to pick one up until I got a stupidly good deal on a PS Audio BHK Signature. The BHK is a slightly better line stage but doesn’t have a phono stage. Now that I am hunting for a phono stage I think I made the wrong choice. It is one of my favorite preamps and if I see a C-22 used I am going to pick one up.

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So the C22 is better than the

So the C22 is better than the C2600 or MP1100? I don't mind tube but want the best to go with TT and cartridge

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commsysman wrote:
commsysman wrote:

For $2999 you can get a Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amplifier including a very fine phono stage, a huge amount of clean power, and balanced inputs.
I think this unit is an incredible value, with sound quality on a par with units costing 2 to 3 times as much!

bierfeldt wrote:

Easy. I would get the re-issue of the McIntosh C-22. Price is right and the phono stage is better than the others. It is one of the best I have ever hear until you get to silly prices like the Manley Steelhead. Yes, eventually you need to deal with tubes but usually in a preamp that is every 2500-3000 hours so it will be a while.

I was going to pick one up until I got a stupidly good deal on a PS Audio BHK Signature. The BHK is a slightly better line stage but doesn’t have a phono stage. Now that I am hunting for a phono stage I think I made the wrong choice. It is one of my favorite preamps and if I see a C-22 used I am going to pick one up.

I will check this unit out. Was thinking of the Preamp/ Amp combination rather than a intergrated amp.

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