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... essentially the same scenario I outlined in my Micromega comment here: http://www.stereophile.com/content/micromegas-claim-being-future-hires-ready-it-can-be-tested-today

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deckeda wrote:

....... I'm not suggesting a $600 surround receiver will sound as good as that Linn. I mainly want to know if a hires file sitting in iTunes will really play without downsampling over wired AirPlay to one of these networked things, and secondly if it could sound at least as good as a similarly priced (i.e. less than $1K) stand alone DAC via USB (or USB-coax converter first for stuff better than 24/96 ...)

I second this thought.  I've been subscribing to Stereophile during the active years of my hand-built and long-lived Heathkit AR1500 receiver - while it and Julian Hirsch's review of it earned scorn in audiophile quarters, I've been enjoying live and reproduced music all the while.  Tin ear, you might say, but I've sung in an acclaimed touring concert choir in my youth, and my children have demonstrated and ackowledged musicial talents.  (One is a professional vocalist, a bass-baritone.)

I enjoy reading about streaming digital audio devices in Sterophile, but it's all about USB or PDIF - there is little mention of the commonplace ethernet/wireless streaming capabilties that have been used in home theater for a long time.   I have a Denon 7-channel home theater AVR from a few years ag,o, it streams digital audio from my 2-GB Iomega media drive with Linux-based firmware at 96/24 over ethernet just fine, has a buffer to deal with jitter, and sound fabulous to me.  It also has a phono inpput, which can handle the signal from my old Sony PSX-55 in pure analog from input to preamp out or convert it to 96/24 digital and do lots of fun things with the sound.  Sometimes, I use the analog direct function and listen to my ML Sequel IIs through my Adcom 5802, and sometimes I listen to records converted to simulated multichannel in the 7/1 HT setup.  I can sit in th elistening position in either room ond control things completely with a laptop.

Good things abound, and thanls to JM for expanding everyone's horizons!

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Lacking competent USB or FireWire drivers to permit more than 24/96 performance from their own DACs demonstrates how far removed most high end manufacturers are from computer-based audio. (Forget S/PDIF, having to shell out for an extra box to connect the computer to that is just dumb.) 

Here's what I want, (Peachtree Audio, et al): higher than 96kHz sampling playback capability from USB or FW, because it's out there and I shouldn't have to downsample. By this time next year my library will hopefully be all hi res stuff I either purchased, stole or made myself from LP. When you consider that I'm purging my 16/44 content as soon as I can, and looking to digitize vinyl in hi res, a philosophy that's OK with USB ports still limited to 96kHz and iPod docks is just WAY out of step with me---and you actually think you've been progressive?

Ethernet is going to blow all of this wide open for computer music servers, sooner or later. That Linn, and these cheap A/V receivers on the low end are game changers because Ethernet isn't voodoo like hardware drivers are. 

And Glory Be, unlike USB (in particular) Ethernet was literally born to stream data/has robust error protection/buffering/decently long cable runs without degradation.

When the cable companies start in droves to offer pretty Cat5 you'll know USB and S/PDIF are blissfully dead from home audio.

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"When the cable companies start in droves to offer pretty Cat5 you'll know USB and S/PDIF are blissfully dead from home audio."

 

I can just imagine it, inch-thick Cat5.  Those folks will be disappointed to learn that there's already Gigabit ethernet available with Cat6!!

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