Hey!!! Mine is ranking... err... 8924

those prices are fucking ridiculous.

if I had that much money and found myself veering towards that precipice, id rather have a brain transplant so I could get some common sense. theres nothing in ANY of those designs that warrants those prices. nothing other than the fact that some douchebag with more money than sense wants to have "the best" (mind you some of those things measure ....not so well) idiots!

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those prices are fucking ridiculous.

theres nothing in ANY of those designs that warrants those prices. nothing other than the fact that some douchebag with more money than sense wants to have "the best" (mind you some of those things measure ....not so well) idiots!

Teddy Ray,

I've heard the Lamm ML 3s driving Wilson X-2 Alexandrias
and they are FANTASTIC.

Additionally, frequency measurements aren't everything.
They don't tell you about the temporal response.

Frequency and time are conjugate variables in
Fourier Transform space. The same mathematics
that gives us the Heisenberg uncertainty principle
also says that frequency response can't tell you
everything about temporal response.

BTW I am a doctoral level physicist.

Greg

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BTW I am a doctoral level physicist.

Man, up until you said that, I was with you.

Teddy Ray has credentials, too.

Now what?

Wait, I know, let's get J_J in here!

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BTW I am a doctoral level physicist.

Greg

and i'm a master mason with a voice degree. so what.

what do your credentials have to do with any of that??

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To each his own, one man's pleasure is another man's poison.

Mark

It is immoral, stupid, and should be illegal. There should be some regulatory panels in play...

Some of those beasts are beautiful!

The other lists on the site are entertaining as well. I especially like the "most unusual looking speakers."

woofersus wrote:

The other lists on the site are entertaining as well. I especially like the "most unusual looking speakers."

haha - definitely. i particularly like the inuit looking character by Jason Sui ("N3-8"- second to last on the list). very funny looking speaker.

ncdrawl wrote:

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To each his own, one man's pleasure is another man's poison.

Mark

It is immoral, stupid, and should be illegal. There should be some regulatory panels in play...

This would never be allowed in the Third Reicht!

They are only Stupidly expensive to the folks that can't afford them ...

I'll bet that in blind hearing tests, these expensive amps wouldn't get any more votes than some excellent amps priced around $1000. Small volumes are the main cause of high prices. For example if you spend $50K on Design, $100K on circuit design, $50K on tooling, $50K on regulatory and documentation, $50K on advertising you have invested $300K. If you only sell 100 of these then each unit will have $3000 of fixed development in the price. But if you plan to sell 5000 amps then the figure drops to $60. Similar differences exist in the manufacturing process. The cost for 50 really cool gold knobs might be $50 apiece, as compared to 50 cents for 5000 chrome plated plastic ones. The secondary driver of high prices is "strategic ego". Even if you can sell an amp and make a profit for $10,000 you strategically price it at $20,000 or more as a play on someones ego. You see, some rich people who are insecure want to brag about how much they paid, not realizing how little proportional value they received and how much of a sucker they are. That extra $19,000 could have generated much more satisfaction being donated to a worhty cause. This same argument applies to other goods such as a $2.5 million Bentley compared to a $100K Mercedes.

Russbidaho wrote:

You see, some rich people who are insecure want to brag about how much they paid, not realizing how little proportional value they received and how much of a sucker they are.

...could it possibly be that wealthy audiophiles that can afford artisian audio just simply love beautiful sounding, and beautifully designed audio equipment which in turn is just another way of enjoying the fruits of their labor?

Mark Evans

RE: the rich enjoying the fruits... OK I shouldn't put them all in that category. I forgot to mention a benefit of their spending. We get to buy this stuff at drastically reduced prices in the used market. Discounts of 90% might actually reflect a realistic value.

Russ