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Not my comment...as the thread is not in any way about religion, I assume you created a strawman and ran with it...

Oh, look, an invalid linkage and a straw man of your own, based on a feigned exercise of the excluded middle, more or less.

First, I didn't say YOU made that comment. For that alone, your entire comment is demonstrated to be completely illicit.

Then, you "assume" that I'm doing the same thing you're doing, and you run with that falsehood.

Obviously, you can't actually REFUTE the obvious points I've made.

Yes, this thread has drifted, thanks to right-wing harrassment of the center-right (that would be me).

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"Oh look"...Your mother would slap you across the face for being such an idiot.

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Not my comment...as the thread is not in any way about religion, I assume you created a strawman and ran with it...

Oh, look, an invalid linkage and a straw man of your own, based on a feigned exercise of the excluded middle, more or less.

First, I didn't say YOU made that comment. For that alone, your entire comment is demonstrated to be completely illicit.

Then, you "assume" that I'm doing the same thing you're doing, and you run with that falsehood.

Obviously, you can't actually REFUTE the obvious points I've made.

Yes, this thread has drifted, thanks to right-wing harrassment of the center-right (that would be me).

Your 'obvious points' seem to be simply anti religious screed having nothing to do with the thread and you appear offended when I give the off topic drivel a pass...

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Your 'obvious points' seem to be simply anti religious screed having nothing to do with the thread

So, in other words, you've just admitted, perhaps in ignorance, that you do NOT actually know what the founders were on about.

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... I have several paper bags here right now and I am confident in being able to send one through the post.
Or would you like me to book you into remedial English?

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Your 'obvious points' seem to be simply anti religious screed having nothing to do with the thread

So, in other words, you've just admitted, perhaps in ignorance, that you do NOT actually know what the founders were on about.

No, what I 'admitted' was that you are wildly off topic as religion has zip to do with Arizona's immigration law.

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Your 'obvious points' seem to be simply anti religious screed having nothing to do with the thread

So, in other words, you've just admitted, perhaps in ignorance, that you do NOT actually know what the founders were on about.

No, what I 'admitted' was that you are wildly off topic as religion has zip to do with Arizona's immigration law.

We all understand the following, I think:

1) You are not the only person posting to this thread, and my comments were in response to another posting in this thread.
2) You do not understand the historical implications of Arizona's excuse for law enforcement officials to harrass people who they don't like the looks of.

Beyond that, well, ... Not my problem. Feel free to have the last whine, err, word.

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1) You are not the only person posting to this thread, and my comments were in response to another posting in this thread.
2) You do not understand the historical implications of Arizona's excuse for law enforcement officials to harrass people who they don't like the looks of.

3) And JJ will prove that law enforcement officials in AZ are all white and will pick on white people that look like they may have come across the border illegally by exhibiting suspicious behavior like being white. The vast majority of illegal immigrants are white. We just cannot go around pulling over illegal white immigrants. They have to sometimes look like Mexicans. In turn, that will infringe on the liberty of the Irish in Massachusetts who may or may not be in AZ illegally. I should note that most Irish in AZ have been statistically determined to be majorly in the United States illegally. This is pretty much the US Courts opinion on the matter as well. So, JJ is right. We can't even single out people that are driving with alcohol on their breath. This would infringe on the liberty of those people drinking and driving but driving below the legal limit. Constitutionally, we cannot do anything to determine if a person is above the legal drinking limit even if the officer smells alcohol. It really is fairly simple when you think about it like I have.

JJ, it is harass. Not harrass. "Harrass" is something your neighbor from Alabama says about your wife. "Harass" is white cops arresting white people. Something you never see because it would be unconstitutional for white cops to arrest white people because of their color. I get it.

JJ, since you're white, people of color don't need dickheads going around determining the color of their skin and the constitution. I think it is a little presumption on your part. You're either an expert on the Constitution or an expert on being a Mexican. But you can't be both.

Let me ask you a question. Do you have an Hispano Chamber of Commerce in your town? No? Than shut the fuck up about what people in border states are doing about people in border states.

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3) And JJ will prove that law enforcement officials in AZ are all white and will pick on white people


And, another lie. I didn't assert this, so "Lamont" is just lying by demanding I prove this when I didn't assert it. This is typical of the "define your opponent" lies and unethical rhetoric of the lunatic fringe, and shows, again, that Lamont is a dishonest, unethical liar who seeks only to defame the center-right of the political spectrum in favor of the lunatic right-wing totalitarian fringe.

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Do you have an Hispano Chamber of Commerce in your town? No? Than shut the fuck up about what people in border states are doing about people in border states.

I see, so those of us who have Vietnamese, Chinese, and Japanese CofC's don't have anything to offer. And, do tell, what's wrong with a Hispanic CofC? Is this just more prejudice from you?

No, I won't shut up, you're a repugnant, unethical, dishonest bigot who hates America and I don't like you because of that.

Oh, and your complaining that I'm "white" is just another example of bigotry on your part. Are you an anti-White racist?

Sure sounds like it from the fact you even bothered to bring it up.

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3) And JJ will prove that law enforcement officials in AZ are all white and will pick on white people


And, another lie.

You got that right.

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3) And JJ will prove that law enforcement officials in AZ are all white and will pick on white people


And, another lie.

You got that right.

Again, "define the opponent" by dishonestly extracting a quote from context.

You have no ethics, no morals, and absolutely no manners. In short, you sound just like the radical right.

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Except I'm an independent. You sound like a fucking idiot. Thank God for the catch and release program. You may be out of dissertation and talking point material but I've got plenty of bait.

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Do you mean the right wing isn't right enough for you?

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Except I'm an independent. You sound like a fucking idiot. Thank God for the catch and release program. You may be out of dissertation and talking point material but I've got plenty of bait.

Ok, you independently support the lunatic religious right. Know thee by thine works. Whaaaaatever....

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There you go again with your religious intolerance. Like I threatened earlier, don't make me start using the N word again. Stephen? It really is no different. JJ is a fucking bigot. It is not a low blow to bring this to the front pew for everybody to relish. He is a fucking pussy that gets a free ride when it comes to slamming Christians. Since he can get away with it I'm going to take the opportunity to slam gays and Muslims. The scum of the earth. Notice how I don't even make the pretense that I walk on water, which obviously one needs to do.

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There you go again with your religious intolerance. Like I threatened earlier, don't make me start using the N word again. Stephen? It really is no different. JJ is a fucking bigot. It is not a low blow to bring this to the front pew for everybody to relish. He is a fucking pussy that gets a free ride when it comes to slamming Christians. Since he can get away with it I'm going to take the opportunity to slam gays

Once again you can more or less see the spittle all across the screen as soon as one of your posts opens.
Unfortunately.

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Once again you can more or less see the spittle all across the screen as soon as one of your posts opens.
Unfortunately.


Well, isn't that the whole point for most who post on forum flame wars?
Logic and civil debate has nothing to do with it.
As to those who appear to be from the far right I do wish they'd read their Ayn Rand ( especially her moral philosophy and epistemology) more carefully. They might learn something which is more than is to be expected from the half baked gibberish they post here.
And no, I'm not a Randian 'Objectivist' although I do regard Rand's philosophy worthy of detailed study.

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Eww, two people from Australia debating.

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Eww, two people from Australia debating.


Like 95% of the residents of the Land of the Brave and the Free you know next to nothing about Australia or the rest of the world unless there's a large deposit of oil or rare minerals up for the grab.
Another aspect of American 'consciousness' ( if I can stretch a term) that intrigues me is the peculiar idea the US is the cultural and economic centre of the planet. Wake up America, you're empire is rusting through ignorance, complacency and greed.
That's my final contribution to this pointless flame war. Or as we say down here "Stick that in your pipe and smoke it mate"

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... before you want to say "so long".

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Another aspect of American 'consciousness' ( if I can stretch a term) that intrigues me is the peculiar idea the US is the cultural and economic centre of the planet.

Well, it's hard to compete with Koala bears and Crocodile Dundee. And Vegemite.

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But surely you have Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin and American cheese?
Nice to see the American ship is still sailing blissfully back through time.

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Like 95% of the residents of the Land of the Brave and the Free you know next to nothing about Australia or the rest of the world unless there's a large deposit of oil or rare minerals up for the grab.

I accidentally caught another American hating bigot. Geez, why do they go to all the trouble to pretend to like us.

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I thought not.

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Like 95% of the residents of the Land of the Brave and the Free you know next to nothing about Australia or the rest of the world unless there's a large deposit of oil or rare minerals up for the grab.
Another aspect of American 'consciousness' ( if I can stretch a term) that intrigues me is the peculiar idea the US is the cultural and economic centre of the planet. Wake up America, you're empire is rusting through ignorance, complacency and greed.
That's my final contribution to this pointless flame war. Or as we say down here "Stick that in your pipe and smoke it mate"


I've heard enough complaints about my country on this forum. You know that you would probably be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for the blood sacrifice of "the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" as you say! Our country is not perfect but we sure have done our part to stop the Hitlers and Tojos around the world. Some of you people are idiots on this forum! Goodbye!!

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It really is no different. JJ is a fucking bigot. It is not a low blow to bring this to the front pew for everybody to relish. He is a fucking pussy that gets a free ride when it comes to slamming Christians.

You are a flat-out liar.

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You are a flat-out liar.

Nah nah nahnah nah!!!!!!!!

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Like 95% of the residents of the Land of the Brave and the Free you know next to nothing about Australia or the rest of the world unless there's a large deposit of oil or rare minerals up for the grab.
Another aspect of American 'consciousness' ( if I can stretch a term) that intrigues me is the peculiar idea the US is the cultural and economic centre of the planet. Wake up America, you're empire is rusting through ignorance, complacency and greed.
That's my final contribution to this pointless flame war. Or as we say down here "Stick that in your pipe and smoke it mate"


I've heard enough complaints about my country on this forum. You know that you would probably be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for the blood sacrifice of "the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" as you say! Our country is not perfect but we sure have done our part to stop the Hitlers and Tojos around the world. Some of you people are idiots on this forum! Goodbye!!

Actually, the man from AZ is right when it comes to Australia. They know damn well had we lost the Solomons' the Australians would have been caught with their pants down protecting Britain's interests in North Africa. But that is okay. Their women paid in kind by sucking and fucking the shit out of the yanks while their men were off protecting God and the King.

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I can only assume you take your version iof history from old John Wayne movies.
Is it compulsory where you live to tar yourself with the brush of idiocy?

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The cretinisation process is complete.
Congratulations! You are now qualified to join the Tea Potty.

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I can only assume you take your version iof history from old John Wayne movies.
Is it compulsory where you live to tar yourself with the brush of idiocy?

His version is "ours is bigger than yours". It's a common behavior in parts of the USA that the republicans have reduced to poverty. Oddly, these people continue to support the very *****ards who made them that way.

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America is still a country of possibilities, but they are being closed down all the time.
One day someone will turn round and ask where it all went.

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Is it compulsory where you live to tar yourself with the brush of idiocy?

His version is "ours is bigger than yours". It's a common behavior in parts of the USA that the republicans have reduced to poverty. Oddly, these people continue to support the very *****ards who made them that way.

The Solomon Islands Campaign resulted in over 10,600 American KIA. This does not include WIA, decimation from the elements, malnutrition, and disease that required additional replacement. The campaign was vital to stop the flow of Japan's sphere of influence and the direct threat to Australia itself. Australia did very little in the way of participating in the Solomon Campaign; the first major air, naval, and ground campaign against the Japanese Empire after Pearl Harbor.

So, a solid "Fuck Off, JJ" is awarded.

You might be saddened to hear that over 80,000 American hating Japanese died during the campaign.

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To start with, the number of ALLIED killed during the Solomon Islands Campaign was 10,6000, but not surprisingly you assume they were all Americans.
Well, considering the tiny intelligence you show on a day by day basis, I am surprised you know where the Solomons are... DO YOU know where they are?
Next, I wonder why you have picked out just the one campaign?
Perhaps you'd prefer to consider Kokoda where there were some 56,000 Australians to some 24,000 Americans.
Of course THAT wouldn't fit your idiotic premise would it?
Just fuck off man, you're an embarrassment to the whole human race not just America.

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To start with, the number of ALLIED killed during the Solomon Islands Campaign was 10,6000, but not surprisingly you assume they were all Americans.
Well, considering the tiny intelligence you show on a day by day basis, I am surprised you know where the Solomons are... DO YOU know where they are?
Next, I wonder why you have picked out just the one campaign?
Perhaps you'd prefer to consider Kokoda where there were some 56,000 Australians to some 24,000 Americans.
Of course THAT wouldn't fit your idiotic premise would it?
Just fuck off man, you're an embarrassment to the whole human race not just America.

Separate campaign well after the Solomon campaign was being fought. Also, you left out the part that the Australians were unable to defeat the Japanese until after American forces arrived as reinforcement. The fact remains, the world started WWII and if it wasn't for the good ol' USA the world would have lost WWII. At least countries like Norway understand this simple little concept.

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Everyone knows it, any number of people tell you so, but you just go right ahead and I'm sure you are a big man in your (wet) dreams.
Over and out.

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It's just "out". Don't let the door hit in you in the ass on the way out.

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For info, and getting back to the topic, sort of, Carville commissioned a poll...the results are not good for the dems.

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