Do you have a link for this item? Nice to hear from someone from Italy. Truly an International site now. I thought about searching out my ancestors, but was afraid they might have been deported or bank robbers...or something worse? LOL Hey, you just never know.

There is some very nice gear coming from your part of the world these days. Regards.

Found it. Nespa

You may enjoy this link Robt Harley
concerning the manufacturing of CDs by contributing writer to "Phile", Robert Harley. I found it most interesting. Enjoy.

With no claim to being an objectivist, this sounds like something that sould be "measureable."

A quick before and after analysis of what gets read should be useful, nez pas?

Also, this bring up several questions:

1) If the disc is sealed polymer, where does the heated stuff outgas?

Does it go through the metal and then out the polycarbonate via the "front" of the disc? That doesn'y sound likely.

Does it travel out the "back" of the disc? That doesn't seem likely, either. That would suggest that there are channels for gas travel of all sorts.

Does it travel out the side of the disc? That would imply travelling bubble headed toward the edge of the disc.

2) How does this affect my cryogenically treated, demagnitized discs that I have taken everyone else's advice about in the past and spent money on machines for?

If the gas travels out the sides, will it be able to penetrate my green inked edges?

By sanding the edges of my CD's with that CD rounder-outer thing, am I letting gas back in?

3) Shouldn't we be able to copy a disc to a hard drive, then treat it and copy it to hard drive again and show the effect of this device?

4) Has anyone else lived through enough years of green pens, Armour All, freezeing, demagnetizing, altering with a magic chip, shaving, coloring, etc, to have become cynical yet?

5) If my music CD's need so much tweaking, how on earth can my cheap computer CD-ROM drive ever derive enough data from these pitifully low quality CD's to run my programs and hold other data?

These CD "improvemnt" devices seem to have the exact same product cycle as miracle weight loss cures. Anyone here still on the Beverly Hills Diet or actively demagnetizing and freezing their CD's?

Apologies for being so dubious.

I was wondering this myself. I suppose it's possible the lacquer is semi-permeable. Or maybe the stuff doesn't escape and just reforms. If this treatment does in fact heat up this adhesive, maybe it's possible it just liquifies the gunk, and it settles and eliminates bubbles or irregularities under the surface of the alumiminum particles. I'd be curious to hear a disc after treatment. As counterintuitive something like the CD Blacklight appears, having heard repeatable differences with it, I'm open to at least listening to this.

Since there can be much or little error correction going on inside our cd players that we do not no about as the disc is played...it certainly seems more? plausible than the GSIC disc treatment that many claim to hear improvements. I think there was some mention of some Sam Tellig discs that RH was given that had rot inside the substrate...oxygen leakeage from somewhere to the inside of the disc. Time for a chemist to come forward and possibly help us out with this "treatment" clarification. I can see the folks at Nitty Gritty thinking about a CD vacuum cleaner...maybe??? to pull out the residue. Just Kidding.

I'm not sure about the chemistry involved, but this is very interesting stuff. I would think the gas would would be released toward the inner and outer edges of the disc...between the sandwich layer.

This actually brings up something I have been wondering about lately. I have numerous discs that have a very cloudy appearance. It's as though the layers have allowed moisture to penetrate. I've not noticed any playback problems, but there are certainly changes in the appearance of the disc.

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It's as though the layers have allowed moisture to penetrate.

Er... exactly what have you been doing with your discs, Monty?

Er... exactly what have you been doing with your discs, Monty?

I really love my music!

LOL

Well, if you find it improves the sound of CDs, you can always market it as a CD treatment only you can produce in limited quantities and charge a load of money for it...

I was out for a drive and started to ponder this a little more.

It should also be something that is easily demonstrated visually - did this manufacturer look at the disc surface and find irregularities?

I would think that would be an integral part of checking what they are theorizing about.

I agree, there are ways to test (with lasers no less) Opacity to a fine degree, more than needed for such a CD.

oh shoot there i go rhyming again