Bryston BDA-3 D/A processor Page 2

Wed, 11/23/2016

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georgehifi's picture

This could be one that pulls me away from Multibit, very nice measurements JA must be one of the better ones I've seen.
Pity/shame Bryston didn't see fit to include the digital VC that the AKM dac is capable of. Hopefully in the BDA-3 MkII??

"Output Volume (PCM, DSD) The AK4490 includes channel independent digital output volumes (ATT) with 256 levels at 0.5dB step including MUTE. This volume control is in front of the DAC and it can attenuate the input data from 0dB to –127dB or mute. When changing output levels, it is executed in soft transition thus no switching noise occurs during these transitions. It takes 7424/fs from FFH (0dB) to 00H (MUTE). The attenuation level is initialized to FFH by initial reset. Register setting values will be kept even switching the PCM and DSD modes."

Cheers George

MusicEar's picture

Using the internal volume inside the DAC means DSD has to be converted to PCM(according to AKM data sheet) which negate the effect of DSD recordings. Besides, it is preferred to use the pre-amp volume as opposed to digital to improve the SNR for low level details.

georgehifi's picture

DSD does nothing for me because there's no music available that I like that is "Native DSD".
Give me DXD (pcm) if in the future it can get the music content I like.

Cheers George

MusicEar's picture

Check out pure DSD recordings direct from DSD masters
https://www.nativedsd.com/
http://www.primephonic.com

strettonufo's picture

Really curious how playing back music files in all formats supported by the DAC via HDMI compares with playback via USB. Disappointed that the review didn't get into this.

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Bryston BDA-3 D/A processor

In the February 2010 issue of Stereophile, I reviewed Bryston's first standalone digital-to-analog converter, the BDA-1 ($1995). Five years later, Bryston released the BDA-2, which replaced the BDA-1's 24-bit/192kHz Crystal CS-4398 DAC with a pair of AKM DAC chips in balanced mode. In a February 2016 Follow-Up (footnote 1) I reported that the BDA-2 deepened and widened the BDA-1's soundstage, among other performance gains.
Wed, 11/23/2016

Audio Research Reference 6 line preamplifier Measurements

Wed, 11/23/2016

COMMENTS
A. Hourst's picture

“That may offend the sensibilities of those purists who demand absolute accuracy, but in audio, there's really no such thing”

I don’t know what’s most funny: Michael Fremer who thinks he can “offend the sensibilities” of some objectivists, or the fact that he thinks this will happen from such an empty, predictable commonplace as the “immeasurability” of good sound.
There’s really no such thing, you say, as absolute accuracy in audio. Never mind the fact that the usual tenants of a “good enough” accuracy only ask it to be better than the human ear sensitivity, which is rather easily achieved with modern electronics, Mr Fremer don’t even recognize “absolute accuracy” as an existing horizon in audio. Absolute accuracy conceptually exists in audio as much as it exists in photography or in watchmaking. However, if someone is trying to push a 14 000$ piece of electronic whose performance can be bought for less than 1/10th the price, rising up the confusion by saying things like “in audio, there’s really no such thing as absolute accuracy” can be good practice.
One thing will never happen: a blind ABX comparison of this ARC preamp with a 1000$ similarly measuring one, to put to the test this idea that dollars can get you what measurements and science can’t.

ChrisS's picture

And has never happened, because a blind test in this situation is not practical nor very useful.

ChrisS's picture

...is that you acknowledge that you are the only one who keeps asking for something that will never be done!

Are you the only one who needs to have your idea tested?

Allen Fant's picture

Great review- MF.
until I can demo the new Ref6, I feel the Ref5SE, is still the best tubed pre-amp in the ARC arsenal.

sunnyhtms@gmail.com's picture

Absolutely well written. Yes the Reference 6 is all that and more. Even the new Foundation Series LS28 betters the Reference 5 SE now.
Yes Casework and other improvements have trickled down to the Foundation series.

Vade Forrester's picture

This was one of the best reviews I've ever read. Well done, Michael.

Vade Forrester
Reviewer, SoundStage! Network and The Absolute Sound
My words=my thoughts.

WJ ARMSTRONG's picture

I agree with my fellow reviewer Vade Forrester - this was unusually entertaining and successfully conveyed some quite subtle notions with a lovely light-touch clarity. Almost as enjoyable as listening indeed!
Thanks Michael.
Bill Armstrong - 6moons

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Audio Research Reference 6 line preamplifier Associated Equipment

Wed, 11/23/2016

COMMENTS
A. Hourst's picture

“That may offend the sensibilities of those purists who demand absolute accuracy, but in audio, there's really no such thing”

I don’t know what’s most funny: Michael Fremer who thinks he can “offend the sensibilities” of some objectivists, or the fact that he thinks this will happen from such an empty, predictable commonplace as the “immeasurability” of good sound.
There’s really no such thing, you say, as absolute accuracy in audio. Never mind the fact that the usual tenants of a “good enough” accuracy only ask it to be better than the human ear sensitivity, which is rather easily achieved with modern electronics, Mr Fremer don’t even recognize “absolute accuracy” as an existing horizon in audio. Absolute accuracy conceptually exists in audio as much as it exists in photography or in watchmaking. However, if someone is trying to push a 14 000$ piece of electronic whose performance can be bought for less than 1/10th the price, rising up the confusion by saying things like “in audio, there’s really no such thing as absolute accuracy” can be good practice.
One thing will never happen: a blind ABX comparison of this ARC preamp with a 1000$ similarly measuring one, to put to the test this idea that dollars can get you what measurements and science can’t.

ChrisS's picture

And has never happened, because a blind test in this situation is not practical nor very useful.

ChrisS's picture

...is that you acknowledge that you are the only one who keeps asking for something that will never be done!

Are you the only one who needs to have your idea tested?

Allen Fant's picture

Great review- MF.
until I can demo the new Ref6, I feel the Ref5SE, is still the best tubed pre-amp in the ARC arsenal.

sunnyhtms@gmail.com's picture

Absolutely well written. Yes the Reference 6 is all that and more. Even the new Foundation Series LS28 betters the Reference 5 SE now.
Yes Casework and other improvements have trickled down to the Foundation series.

Vade Forrester's picture

This was one of the best reviews I've ever read. Well done, Michael.

Vade Forrester
Reviewer, SoundStage! Network and The Absolute Sound
My words=my thoughts.

WJ ARMSTRONG's picture

I agree with my fellow reviewer Vade Forrester - this was unusually entertaining and successfully conveyed some quite subtle notions with a lovely light-touch clarity. Almost as enjoyable as listening indeed!
Thanks Michael.
Bill Armstrong - 6moons

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Audio Research Reference 6 line preamplifier Specifications

Wed, 11/23/2016

COMMENTS
A. Hourst's picture

“That may offend the sensibilities of those purists who demand absolute accuracy, but in audio, there's really no such thing”

I don’t know what’s most funny: Michael Fremer who thinks he can “offend the sensibilities” of some objectivists, or the fact that he thinks this will happen from such an empty, predictable commonplace as the “immeasurability” of good sound.
There’s really no such thing, you say, as absolute accuracy in audio. Never mind the fact that the usual tenants of a “good enough” accuracy only ask it to be better than the human ear sensitivity, which is rather easily achieved with modern electronics, Mr Fremer don’t even recognize “absolute accuracy” as an existing horizon in audio. Absolute accuracy conceptually exists in audio as much as it exists in photography or in watchmaking. However, if someone is trying to push a 14 000$ piece of electronic whose performance can be bought for less than 1/10th the price, rising up the confusion by saying things like “in audio, there’s really no such thing as absolute accuracy” can be good practice.
One thing will never happen: a blind ABX comparison of this ARC preamp with a 1000$ similarly measuring one, to put to the test this idea that dollars can get you what measurements and science can’t.

ChrisS's picture

And has never happened, because a blind test in this situation is not practical nor very useful.

ChrisS's picture

...is that you acknowledge that you are the only one who keeps asking for something that will never be done!

Are you the only one who needs to have your idea tested?

Allen Fant's picture

Great review- MF.
until I can demo the new Ref6, I feel the Ref5SE, is still the best tubed pre-amp in the ARC arsenal.

sunnyhtms@gmail.com's picture

Absolutely well written. Yes the Reference 6 is all that and more. Even the new Foundation Series LS28 betters the Reference 5 SE now.
Yes Casework and other improvements have trickled down to the Foundation series.

Vade Forrester's picture

This was one of the best reviews I've ever read. Well done, Michael.

Vade Forrester
Reviewer, SoundStage! Network and The Absolute Sound
My words=my thoughts.

WJ ARMSTRONG's picture

I agree with my fellow reviewer Vade Forrester - this was unusually entertaining and successfully conveyed some quite subtle notions with a lovely light-touch clarity. Almost as enjoyable as listening indeed!
Thanks Michael.
Bill Armstrong - 6moons

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Audio Research Reference 6 line preamplifier Page 2

Wed, 11/23/2016

COMMENTS
A. Hourst's picture

“That may offend the sensibilities of those purists who demand absolute accuracy, but in audio, there's really no such thing”

I don’t know what’s most funny: Michael Fremer who thinks he can “offend the sensibilities” of some objectivists, or the fact that he thinks this will happen from such an empty, predictable commonplace as the “immeasurability” of good sound.
There’s really no such thing, you say, as absolute accuracy in audio. Never mind the fact that the usual tenants of a “good enough” accuracy only ask it to be better than the human ear sensitivity, which is rather easily achieved with modern electronics, Mr Fremer don’t even recognize “absolute accuracy” as an existing horizon in audio. Absolute accuracy conceptually exists in audio as much as it exists in photography or in watchmaking. However, if someone is trying to push a 14 000$ piece of electronic whose performance can be bought for less than 1/10th the price, rising up the confusion by saying things like “in audio, there’s really no such thing as absolute accuracy” can be good practice.
One thing will never happen: a blind ABX comparison of this ARC preamp with a 1000$ similarly measuring one, to put to the test this idea that dollars can get you what measurements and science can’t.

ChrisS's picture

And has never happened, because a blind test in this situation is not practical nor very useful.

ChrisS's picture

...is that you acknowledge that you are the only one who keeps asking for something that will never be done!

Are you the only one who needs to have your idea tested?

Allen Fant's picture

Great review- MF.
until I can demo the new Ref6, I feel the Ref5SE, is still the best tubed pre-amp in the ARC arsenal.

sunnyhtms@gmail.com's picture

Absolutely well written. Yes the Reference 6 is all that and more. Even the new Foundation Series LS28 betters the Reference 5 SE now.
Yes Casework and other improvements have trickled down to the Foundation series.

Vade Forrester's picture

This was one of the best reviews I've ever read. Well done, Michael.

Vade Forrester
Reviewer, SoundStage! Network and The Absolute Sound
My words=my thoughts.

WJ ARMSTRONG's picture

I agree with my fellow reviewer Vade Forrester - this was unusually entertaining and successfully conveyed some quite subtle notions with a lovely light-touch clarity. Almost as enjoyable as listening indeed!
Thanks Michael.
Bill Armstrong - 6moons

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Audio Research Reference 6 line preamplifier

The last time I reviewed an Audio Research component—it was the VTM200 monoblock amplifier in January 2001—my hair was mostly dark brown. The wait since has been not of my choosing, but that's now flux under the circuit board. Since then, much has happened to both me and to the Audio Research Corporation, a long-lived company for which the descriptor "legendary" is well deserved.
Wed, 11/23/2016

A Jazz Thanksgiving in New York City

It's Thanksgiving week, which means that if you're in New York City, you can (and should) go see two of the best jazz bands at two of the best jazz clubs. Maria Schneider's Jazz Orchestra is playing at the Jazz Standard through Sunday (except for Thanksgiving Day). Jason Moran's Bandwagon trio is playing at the Village Vanguard through Sunday (including Thanksgiving Day).
Tue, 11/22/2016

Ida Levin RIP

I am sad to report that, 19 years to the day after I recorded her performing Schulhoff's Sonata for Solo Violin for Stereophile's Duet CD, Ida Levin passed away on Friday November 18, after a lengthy battle with leukemia. She was 53. Our condolences to her family, her fellow musicians, her students, and to all who, like me, were thrilled by her playing. As a tribute to Ida, from now until January 1, 2017, we are offering Duet to our readers free of charge (though we will still have to charge shipping and handling).
Tue, 11/22/2016

Devialet Opens First Standalone US Store in SoHo, NYC

This past Friday, November 17, critically acclaimed French audio startup Devialet officially opened the doors to their first US standalone store right here in SoHo, NY. This store joins five other standalones globally (Paris, London, Berlin) and, as of yet, no future plans of additional US locations have been disclosed.
Mon, 11/21/2016

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