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Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

Audio Physic, QUAD, Monitor, Gallo Ref 3 etc

Why do manufacturers make speakers so short they put the tweeters/midranges 6" or below the average listening height? People actually buy stands for the QUAD and Gallo. That is ridiculous and a rip off. This is simple human engineering

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

Speakers aren't too short, floors are too tall.

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

Come on now, slouch a bit in that listening chair of yours and everything will be just perfect. Speaker manufacturers can't help it if you're too tall.

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Why do manufacturers make speakers so short they put the tweeters/midranges 6" or below the average listening height?

Average ear height of a seated listener is 36". I am not aware of many designs that place the listening axis much lower than that. 6" lower, as you claim, is rare.


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People actually buy stands for the QUAD and Gallo. That is ridiculous and a rip off.

The Quad ESL-63 was originally designed as a standmount, but marketing concerns led the company to sell it as a floorstander. Don't know about the Gallo. But if you believe using a stand would subject you to being ripped-off (and how tired I am of that accusation), don't use a stand and slouch a little.

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

Greetings ,

Maybe I'm mising something here ...... but if you have to be in such a restricted listening position for the above speakers ....... why bother with them ? You have other choices.

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

John

OK I am 6'7" tall. I just measured my sight line (a little above the ear) at 40" on several couches. I guess the average male is short enough to meet the 36" you mention. Seems like a low soundstage

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OK I am 6'7" tall. I just measured my sight line (a little above the ear) at 40" on several couches. I guess the average male is short enough to meet the 36" you mention. Seems like a low soundstage

wow

talk about a reason for people on forums not seeing eye to eye about gear.

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I am 6'7" tall. I just measured my sight line (a little above the ear) at 40" on several couches. I guess the average male is short enough to meet the 36" you mention. Seems like a low soundstage

I think you are a statistical outlier. Sorry, I know that hardly matters when you are 100% representative of the sample that matters to you personally, but speaker manufacturers have to optimize their designs for the statistical "center of gravity."

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

As a small time loudspeaker designer manufacter.I tend to build my floorstanders a bit higher arround 38in-42in acoustic center I to feel most designs are to low leading to shortened image height. I also do custom work so can build most anything to any size.Have built a few monster horn systems 19ft across and 8ft H.These have the best most real sound I have ever heard.So size matters well at least in loudspeakers it does.

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

Why blame the speaker mfgs? when it's obviously the couch mfgs fault!!!!! Simple Tweak....cut the legs shorter on your couches.....or...get a floor that's lower?

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Why blame the speaker mfgs? when it's obviously the couch mfgs fault!!!!! Simple Tweak....cut the legs shorter on your couches.....or...get a floor that's lower?

That would work, but a more practical idea would be to get adjustable spikes and tilt the speakers back a bit to the tweeters fire up toward your ears.

I believe that speakers such as the Watt/Puppy are designed to tilt the upper speaker down toward the ear.

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Re: Why are so many floor standing speakers too short?

I was thinking time alignment...I'm 6'2" but, average would probably be less.

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