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Who will win, Brown, or Coakley?

Big vote today.

Hard to believe the blue party couldn't come up with better.

59-41?

60-40?

Even as a liberal, I don't dig the notion of 60-40 - it becomes too unilateral.

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Big vote today.

Hard to believe the blue party couldn't come up with better.

59-41?

60-40?

Even as a liberal, I don't dig the notion of 60-40 - it becomes too unilateral.

It's clearly going to be 59/41. The poison-pen crap that the party of NO has been spouting, from the "death panel" lies, through the "socialist" lies, and so on, has clearly managed to get through to a population who has no education in the subject and who only sees their paycheck shrink (at best) while the same people who run the party of NO continue to offshore jobs, raid corporations for cash and then kill them off, and so on.

The republicans obviously, truly, absolutely HATE America, and nobocy can see that.

The democrats, of course, aren't a lot better. They should have gone ahead with the kind of medical system all other modern democracies work with, but instead, they let the "socialist" lies and slanders deter them.

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Big vote today.

Hard to believe the blue party couldn't come up with better.

59-41?

60-40?

Even as a liberal, I don't dig the notion of 60-40 - it becomes too unilateral.

It's clearly going to be 59/41. The poison-pen crap that the party of NO has been spouting, from the "death panel" lies, through the "socialist" lies, and so on, has clearly managed to get through to a population who has no education in the subject and who only sees their paycheck shrink (at best) while the same people who run the party of NO continue to offshore jobs, raid corporations for cash and then kill them off, and so on.

The republicans obviously, truly, absolutely HATE America, and nobocy can see that.

The democrats, of course, aren't a lot better. They should have gone ahead with the kind of medical system all other modern democracies work with, but instead, they let the "socialist" lies and slanders deter them.

Quit your fucking crying and take your medicine. That is if she loses.

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Big vote today.

Hard to believe the blue party couldn't come up with better.

59-41?

60-40?

Even as a liberal, I don't dig the notion of 60-40 - it becomes too unilateral.

It's clearly going to be 59/41. The poison-pen crap that the party of NO has been spouting, from the "death panel" lies, through the "socialist" lies, and so on, has clearly managed to get through to a population who has no education in the subject and who only sees their paycheck shrink (at best) while the same people who run the party of NO continue to offshore jobs, raid corporations for cash and then kill them off, and so on.

The republicans obviously, truly, absolutely HATE America, and nobocy can see that.

The democrats, of course, aren't a lot better. They should have gone ahead with the kind of medical system all other modern democracies work with, but instead, they let the "socialist" lies and slanders deter them.

Quit your fucking crying and take your medicine. That is if she loses.

So, why do YOU hate America? Why do you want to deny them medical care, bankrupt families, and destroy wealth?

Please explain concisely and accurately, rather than engage in pathetically insane, antisocial personal attacks.

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Brown needs to win by at least 5% to beat the normal 'count all the vote' fraud. If the dems have a big turn out Brown may not get the 5% needed at which point the fraud and partisan judge shopping kicks in...

I know that area very well and find it amazing that a republican even comes close...to win, well, that would say something astounding about how far the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda is from America.

My guess..Brown 53%...Coakley 45% and Kennedy the remainder.

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So, if Brown wins, does that mean the majority of voters hate America?

For me, the blue party blew it when they started with the "buy it right now or the sale will end!" pitch.

They could have established some good incremental results by initially addressing portability and prevention of catastrophic expense - which would have made for good cross-aisle bipartisanship.

Instead they went too far too fast and gave the red party a chance to howl that while may have been for a trillion dollar medicare part D entitlement in 2003, they are opposed for people more likely to vote blue.

Where was the red outrage when Bush gave away a trillion dollars of deficit drug benefit?

Mishandled by the blues, for sure.

By the way: The reds don't hate America, they just want everyone to be as unhappy as they are.

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So, if Brown wins, does that mean the majority of voters hate America?


No, they just sucked down the koolaid from the people who DO hate America, and why is that?

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By the way: The reds don't hate America, they just want everyone to be as unhappy as they are.

Except, you understand, you're not joking, right? That really is the issue, there are enough uneducated, antiscientific people around to feel like they can play Ned Ludd v2.

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Except, you understand, you're not joking, right? That really is the issue, there are enough uneducated, antiscientific people around to feel like they can play Ned Ludd v2.

Not joking at all!

To them, Ned Ludd was too progressive!

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Perhaps they would simply rather not 'progress' into the collective mediocrity of the new socialist order.

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Perhaps they would simply rather not 'progress' into the collective mediocrity of the new socialist order.

Tell me about it, "Mr. Entitlement" socialized medicine recipient!

You like Bush's Medicare Part D?

Even your state is a net parasite.

Let's see you protest your own free money - I picture Marie Antoinette in Idaho.

What a crock.

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Perhaps they would simply rather not 'progress' into the collective mediocrity of the new socialist order.

So, you would prefer that we remain more akin to a third world country in the availability of medical care, while paying more than anyone else, anywhere in the world, a great deal of it to insurance companies?

Man, you really do suck down that koolaid, don't you?

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Perhaps they would simply rather not 'progress' into the collective mediocrity of the new socialist order.

So, you would prefer that we remain more akin to a third world country in the availability of medical care, while paying more than anyone else, anywhere in the world, a great deal of it to insurance companies?

Man, you really do suck down that koolaid, don't you?

You do realize that is simply an opinion all gussied up and presented as a fact...

R: 0,254,686
D: 0,224,421

Drudge so far

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The thing about socialism and communism..is that when either are on their way in (with regards to appearance)..they can be and many times are a cloak for fascism. When fascism is sneaking up on a society, when the given society has fallen to policies enacted by capitalists who have gone to far - capitalists who have co-opted and deeply compromised the governing bodies...it looks exactly like socialism.

So those who want to slide a country into fascism will invariably use the cover of the appearance of 'mild' socialism.

The problem comes when people fail to understand the meaning of the words they are bandying about.

Fascism: When corporations collude with governments for their personal benefit over that of the public.

Ie, capitalism slips into to fascism-fascism which then always heads right into totalitarianism.

As a few generations pass and those who remember the realities they were presented with (in their lives) die off....the people who remain, the younger ones..those younger ones have no defenses against a menace they have no direct familiarity with.

Ask yourself what stage America is in right now.

If the corporations manged to re-write the entire health bill so they are served and the people get nothing, that is not even remotely socialism, that's fascism. Pure and simple fascism.

Now, how did that health bill go, again?

In Canada, in the health system, the corporations are served LAST..as in any socialized medical system that works... that's the way it ~MUST~ be.

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Coakley, about 7 points and 100,000 votes behind, conceded.

Now the questions are two

1. How long will the dems delay in seating him. He has vowed to be in DC by Friday
2. Will the left learn or simply double down on stupid and lose even worse in November...

Good day for America!

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Wow.

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Tee hee...

That was KENNEDY'S SEAT, man! KENNEDY'S SEAT! MASSACHUSETTS! Do you get it now? MASSACHUSETTS!

Well, HE promised hope and change. Kennedy finally died. That was a change. The Democrats lost his seat in MASSACHUSETTS! How's that for hope? I'm going to leave a urinalysis sample on Kennedy's grave. Yeah, I "hope" so.

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Pure class, Lamont.

Now, will the blue party realize that being too left for Massachusetts is quite an accomplishment?

Not likely.

Get ready for a major dumb ass maneuver from the blues.

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Hopefully some of you get and understand why I wrote the post that I wrote.....it is most certainly tied to those election results. You are being gamed, people. And you are responding beautifully.

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Hopefully some of you get and understand why I wrote the post that I wrote.....it is most certainly tied to those election results. You are being gamed, people. And you are responding beautifully.

All part of the fun, man.

Now we get to move on to seeing how the NFL has conspired to give the appearance that the Super Bowl results are not already determined.

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Feel I'm goin back to Massachusetts
Somethings telling me I must go home
And the lights all went out in Massachusetts
The day I left her standing on her own

Tried to hitch a ride to San Francisco
Gotta do the things I wanna do
And the lights all went out in Massachusetts
They brought me back to see my way with you

Talk about the life in Massachusetts
Speak about the people I have seen
And the lights all went out in Massachusetts
And Massachusetts is one place I have seen

I will remember Massachusetts
(I will remember Massachusetts)

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Being gamed by who? What do you mean the elections were tied in? Who are you suggesting has us responding beautifully?

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If the answer was a documentary, it would be about 40 hours worth, if not more. That's a lot of trips to the beer fridge and a frightening amount of peeing during adverts.

As for the election results, it might actually show that the idea of 'choice', 'democracy' and 'elections'..and how those three items stand in the minds of the public, in America.. has come to a grinding halt.

What the hell are the bunch of you going to do now? I mean, to me, it is slowly working to the point that elections and what they purport to do, are in actual total ruins in the minds of the public in the USA...and that the public is going to, in literal terms, now, blow the living shit out of the next asshole who stands up in front of them and asks to be elected.. elected for anything or any reason, whatsoever.

IMO, it looks like a literal powderkeg to me. Nobody wants whats coming, but it's coming anyway.

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Pure class, Lamont.

I couldn't pass up the chance to rub the salt into the wound. Iodized salt. The good kind. "When it rains. It pours."

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With any luck, the red party will get rid of those socialized Medicare and Medicare Part D programs.

Socialized medicine based on age discrimination shall not stand.

After that, time to bleed the parasite states!

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Break out the Red Rider records, and listen to the tune 'Napoleon Sheds his skin'. Kinda relevant, as it centers around the current topics, here. The song is actually about Jos

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Hey, how do you do the fancy letters with the accents above them?

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Hey, how do you do the fancy letters with the accents above them?

cut and paste from wikipedia. Works for me.

Lyrics:

The streets are covered in chalk
The shops are boarded up
The bodies are carried back down from the square

He begins to wonder
If it always was this hot
Or is it just the clothes
That he now wears

Napoleon sheds his skin
In the summer when the sun is high
He never knows when to quit
When to stop...
Or when to say die

Pick the bones, get a tan
Or wander
Underground
She would not have left him anyway
Wait by the sea, wait in the sun
As if the time
Stood still
Did he get involved
In whichever side
That paid

As for the letter sets, I think you have to load the euro letter set instead of the North American one, into windoze, or whatever operating system you may be using. Then you get the ability to use 'control' or whatever as secondary letter set access.

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What happened to J_J? Wheredhegoman!

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Once again, the USA keeps sliding into 3rd world status.

Creationism, anti-health-care, "discovery math", religious interference everywhere in government, especially in the military (see Colorado Springs issues, etc)...

Add on top of that the fiasco in New Orleans, the trillion dollar war in Iraq for nothing ...

It's almost like they're trying to tear the entire country down as fast as they can.

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Interesting times.

Bush throws a trillion defecit dollars at old people with Medicare Part D and the reds love it.

Obama tries to throw a trillion dollars at not-so-old people and the red party goes "great socialized apeshit!"

We throw away another trillion dollars trying to blow up people who want the world run as a theocracy, while we listen to the right wing demand a theocracy at home.

We have two sides who will enthusiastically swallow the schitt-tripe shovelled at them by by a man who hoses down interns while he's in office, while condemning to same sort of hose bag behavior when done by someone who doesn't pander to them. (Clinton/Gingrich/Gingirch/Clinton - hey, either it's Presidential, or it isn't, folks!.)

We have a home bound sect of idiots who have time for AM talk radio who spend time yelling "Ditto" at their radio...while they listen to a three time divorcee drug addict who takes bottle of Viagra on weekend trips to the Dominican Republic.

We have another sect who think Barbara Fucking Streisand has any sort of political insight.

I propose a compromise:

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Once again, the USA keeps sliding into 3rd world status.

Creationism, anti-health-care, "discovery math", religious interference everywhere in government, especially in the military (see Colorado Springs issues, etc)...

Add on top of that the fiasco in New Orleans, the trillion dollar war in Iraq for nothing ...

It's almost like they're trying to tear the entire country down as fast as they can.

The short answer to that goes back to about 800AD and is quite involved.

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LOL, KBK!

On a related note; I've always told my wife the Crusades never really ended, they just changed tactics - now it's all down to differential reproduction.

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LOL, KBK!

On a related note; I've always told my wife the Crusades never really ended, they just changed tactics - now it's all down to differential reproduction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgeY7PAZvso

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Once again, the USA keeps sliding into 3rd world status.

Creationism, . . .

Astoundingly, the only country included in a study of ~35 countries where adults were more likely than Americans to reject evolution was Turkey.

Thank you, Turkey! At least we were not last.

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Once again, the USA keeps sliding into 3rd world status.

Creationism, anti-health-care, "discovery math", religious interference everywhere in government, especially in the military (see Colorado Springs issues, etc)...

Add on top of that the fiasco in New Orleans, the trillion dollar war in Iraq for nothing ...

It's almost like they're trying to tear the entire country down as fast as they can.

Oh, there you are... You're a crazy motherfucker!

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Five years ago, if you talked conspiracy theory with strangers, to attempt to engage them in debate, to illustrate that which has been purposely hidden, they would practically call the cops on you.

These days, there recently has been so much of a change that if you do it now, everyone eagerly listens.

That..is a huge change, and it is a sea change at the base level.

Not long now.

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Conspiracy theories are usually the intellectually lazy conclusions.

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Apparently, only with the lazy people you know.

Conspiracies are very, very human. The first one began when two men desired the same woman. This has been going on for a very long time. Older than the hills.

I guess you don't know many historians.

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I don't dispute that conspiracies exist and are rather common. It's the ones that require all the "There are those" and "They" and "Some people believe" and "While not proven..." as preconditions to a rant of hyperbole and non existent evidence fluffed up to do nothing more than raise endless questions rather than provide answers that scream lazy research and bilge pumping.

The same people that peddle this stuff seem to find it easy to dismiss hard evidence to the contrary while embracing the thinnest threads of enuendo as smoking guns if it even remotely supports their preferred conclusions.

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Astoundingly, the only country included in a study of ~35 countries where adults were more likely than Americans to reject evolution was Turkey.

Well, they do have Noah's Ark...

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If you have a Mac there is probably a free widget out there that will do that.

I used to have one but I forget where I got it.

Forgetting, that seems to be a theme with me nowadays :-)

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