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What's Up with Jazz at the Pawnshop

I'm new to this forum and farily new to this hobby. I started out as vinyl collector, but have lately have got back to CDs (with the help of a decent CDP: Cambridge Audio DS500SE).

I regularly troll through audiogon and keep on coming across Jazz at the Pawnshop in a variety of formats (I'm considered the XRCD). I'm not wondering about the sound quality, but the actual music itself. What sort of style jazz is it? Cool, Bebop, Fusion, Smooth? Yes, I hate the categories too, but they are helpful in narrowing down the play style of the musicians.

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Okay King Mob here's a listing of the musicans on Jazz at the Pawn Shop:

Alice Babs - Vocals
Arne Domn

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You're a hard man, Jazzfan. When I read your assessment of JATPS, I went to your registration to see if I could confirm my guess at your age. No luck. Presumtuously, I'm guessing you're forty or less with no significant memories of old time jazz clubs and no particular fondness for standards like Limehouse Blues, Struttin' With Some Barbecue, or Here's That Rainy Day. Arne Domnerus does a job on Limehouse Blues that would have made Goodman happy. The ambience of the club is beautifully communicated in the recording. It reminds some of us old guys of fun we had in the past at places like the London House in Chicago. Sometimes the musicians there were great by anyones standards, sometimes just good, but always fun. Arne and company are pretty good, and lots of fun.

Lighten up. Caviar and Champagne are wonderful, but sometimes fish and chips and a beer are fun too. Particularly if the beer (in this case, the great work of Gert Palmcrantz) is unusually good.

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Buy the vinyl. Your MMF5 should show you why people like the recording.

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I am a fan of the music from Jazz at the Pawnshop. It's not a "legendary" performance, but it is fun and energetic. I particularly like the second disc of the XRCD release, with the covers of Charlie Parker's Barbados and an up-tempo Dave Brubeck's Take Five being my favorite cuts.

And yes, if you don't have a turntable, IMHO the XRCD release is worth the money relative to the other versions out there (even better than the SACD version)...

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Okay guys, I figured by desecrating by one of high end audio's sacred cows I'd generate some excitement in this fledgling forum and boy was I right.

To answer a few questions. I'm 50 years old, I've lived in the New York City area all my life and I own I Linn LP-12. I've sat in the fabled Village Vangard, less than 10 feet from the likes of Keith Jarrett, McCoy Tyner, Don Pullen and many others, so I know the sound of a small club. I've seen and heard many of the greats, like Benny Carter, Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman, Sonny Rollins and others, so I can usually tell the good ones from the bad.

And with all that being said, I stand by my original statement that JATPS is way overrated and one's money is much better spent in several other ways. For example, for about the same price as a vinyl copy of JATPS one could pick up Louie Armstrong's four CD set of the Complete Hot Five and Seven Recordings or Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall or Duke Ellington's The Webster Blanton Band or Count Basie's Complete Decca Recordings. None of these recordings will show off your system but at at one of them belongs in the collection of any jazz fan and they are all guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

Or one could take the money and go to nice small jazz club and hear some live music performed by living and working musicans. They don't have to be "name" players, hey I'm not that hard, if fact I have nothing against the players on Jazz at the Pawn Shop, I only object to the worship that the recording receives from some people.

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pick up Louie Armstrong's four CD set of the Complete Hot Five and Seven Recordings or Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall or Duke Ellington's The Webster Blanton Band or Count Basie's Complete Decca Recordings. None of these recordings will show off your system but at at one of them belongs in the collection of any jazz fan and they are all guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

Couldn't agree more. Say what you will, Jazzman, about free jazz, it looks like you may be as much of a dinosaur as I am. As I perused this forum I've been listening to Teagarten with several different aggregations of notables. Mono, obviously, but great.

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And with all that being said, I stand by my original statement that JATPS is way overrated and one's money is much better spent in several other ways. For example, for about the same price as a vinyl copy of JATPS one could pick up Louie Armstrong's four CD set of the Complete Hot Five and Seven Recordings or Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall or Duke Ellington's The Webster Blanton Band or Count Basie's Complete Decca Recordings. None of these recordings will show off your system but at at one of them belongs in the collection of any jazz fan and they are all guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

I don't think anyone advocates owning JATPS *instead* of other great music. Must audiophiles I know have huge LP or CD collections (on the order of thousands of recordings), and spending the $15-$30 to add JATPS to that doesn't seem to be a big deal. That it is superbly recorded and makes a nice demo disc is a nice bonus...

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[I don't think anyone advocates owning JATPS *instead* of other great music.

I think that's a fair assessment. JATPS doesn't float my boat musically, but it does have nice sound, especially on LP. However, there are demo-quality discs of trad jazz that are genuinely exciting, such as Dr. Micheal White's New Year's Eve Live at the Village Vanguard. That's a CD that will put you smack in the middle of the club on a night when the whole band bumped Dixieland up a notch.

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Wes, your recommendation - New Year's Eve Live......- sounded interesting so I searched my favorite music sources - Music Direct and Acoustic Sounds. Neither had it listed. Where did you get it?

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However, there are demo-quality discs of trad jazz that are genuinely exciting, such as Dr. Micheal White's New Year's Eve Live at the Village Vanguard. That's a CD that will put you smack in the middle of the club on a night when the whole band bumped Dixieland up a notch.

Okay Wes, now we're getting somewhere. I was hoping to see some nice recommendations of well recorded alternatives to the audiophile dreck like JATPS and I thank you very much. I'm not at home this weekend but when I return I'll put up a couple of suggestions myself and we'll keep this discussion moving in the right direction.

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Wes, your recommendation - New Year's Eve Live......- sounded interesting so I searched my favorite music sources - Music Direct and Acoustic Sounds. Neither had it listed. Where did you get it?

Hi Clay:

I've had miine a while, but I'd checked Amazon before I posted and I didn't notice that all it had was used copies--and selling for$30 bucks and up at that. I'd bet that you could find it at a lot of used stores for a much more reasonable price, however.

My bad. I thought I was recommending something easily available. Maybe when Jazzfan gets back home, he'll have some in-print demo-quality discs to share. I'll put on my thinking cap, too.

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I've been playing the soundtrack to Calle 54 a lot recently. Well recorded, extremely dynamic, and best of all a great set of performances of Latin Jazz. Some of the tracks will certainly challenge systems with regards to their ability to handle complex/congested/dynamic passages...

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Maybe when Jazzfan gets back home, he'll have some in-print demo-quality discs to share.

Sorry to say this but I have to wave the white flag on this disagreement over the merits of JATPS. Here's what happened.

I finally got around to looking over my jazz LP collection the other night with the express purpose of finding a couple of live jazz records to recommend in this thread. I hadn't even made it pass the letter "C" when it dawned on me that I didn't want to play this game anymore. I had already passed over quite a few great live recordings, which while not "audiophile" quality, were certainly far superior from a jazz perspective to JATPS. I don't listen to music because of it's "audiophile" pedigree, I listen to music because it's musical pedigree and if it's got some audiophile pedigree I just consider that to be a very wonderful bonus.

So you go ahead and spend your $60 on a 200 gram virgin vinyl pressing of JATPS and feel like you're sitting in a Swedish jazz club. Instead of that I'll buy a copies of the newly released John Coltrane Quartet from 1965, Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane Live in 1957 and Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker at Town Hall, New York City, June 22, 1945 (which together will be less than $60) and have some giants come and visit me for a couple of hours.

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I've had miine a while, but I'd checked Amazon before I posted and I didn't notice that all it had was used copies--and selling for$30 bucks and up at that. I'd bet that you could find it at a lot of used stores for a much more reasonable price, however.

I just picked up one of those used copies from the Amazon Marketplace for $20. Interestingly, it had a label stuck to the jewel case that said "Springfield Public Library" on it...

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I admit that the level of audiophuile enthusiam for JATPS is lost on me, as well.

Nothing agin' it, just not part of my canon of great peformances.

The best analogy I can come up with with regard to these "audiophile" classics is: Jazz at the Pawnshop is to the pantheon of jazz as Amanda McBroom is to great female vocalists.

Both are beloved to us worshippers of the fetish of hi-fi sound, but are rather invisible to afficionados of the music.

No offense.

My favorite live jazz discs change places frequently, but the new Thelonius Monk Quartet with John Coltrane, "Live at Carnegie Hall", is nice and I bet for most people it would get played much more over time than JATPS.

Miles at the Plugged Nickel is pretty darn cool, too.

I've also really enjoyed working my way through Wynton Marsalis' Live at The Village Vanguard Box Set lately.

Nat King Cole at the Sands is killer, but I may just be inflicting my own bias on y'all. It is available on a CD remaster, but the vinyl still sounds better.

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The best analogy I can come up with with regard to these "audiophile" classics is: Jazz at the Pawnshop is to the pantheon of jazz as Amanda McBroom is to great female vocalists.

Both are beloved to us worshippers of the fetish of hi-fi sound, but are rather invisible to afficionados of the music.

Man oh man, someone finally comes to my rescue! I couldn't have (and didn't) said it better myself. In fact here's a quote from one of the audiophile CD and LP mail order web sites regarding JATPS - "This album, recorded in 1976, has been regarded as "The Best Jazz Recording of the Century"!" - now how ridiculous is that.

As far as Nat King Cole is concerned I really enjoy "The After Midnight Sessions" with his trio and special guests altoist Willie Smith, trumpeter Harry "Sweets" Edison, violinist Stuff Smith, and valve trombonist Juan Tizol. You're not actually sitting in some Swedish jazz club but who cares.

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Well, from the looks of the tumbleweeds tumbling across this thread, I guess we qualify as thread killers, Jazzfan!

I will go so far as to say that the sound of tablewear on JATPS is second only to Moby Grape's "Live Grape" in terms of stainless-on-china tone quality.

Goosebumps!

When I hear the sound of dining utensil use on a disc, it makes me feel like the audience was either way too uninvolved, or the performance way too uninvolving to motivate people to enjoy the show without needing to simultaneously stuff their faces.

Maybe we can liven up the thread with a "most irritating crowd noise on a disc" list!

Wait, no, I have an even more incindiary comment for ya:

Harry Belafonte at Carnegie Hall is less musically involving than those Saturday Night Live skits with the two music teachers doing medleys of obtusely related pop tunes.

His lecture about calypso ranks with those black and white hygeine films from my childhood.

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Well, from the looks of the tumbleweeds tumbling across this thread, I guess we qualify as thread killers, Jazzfan!

If this thread dies then I say "Oh well, time to move on."

Anyway, Buddha, you're killing me. Personally, I always found the audience noise on the Velvet Underground Live at Max's Kansas City to be top rate. For that recording the cassette recorder was actually left right on the table while the recording was being made - one can't get any more "there" than that.

As for irrtating noises, I think we should be rating all of Keith Jarrett's recordings. First we have to come up with some sort of rating system, like most goatlike or best bowel movement or something and then assign each release a value based on how well the recording engineer captured Keith's grunts. This could turn out to be fun.

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Maybe we can liven up the thread with a "most irritating crowd noise on a disc" list!

How about "most irritating people in the crowd on a forum!"

You two keep it up, quite entertaining. At least I'm picking up some great tips on jazz discs.

RG

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You two keep it up, quite entertaining. At least I'm picking up some great tips on jazz discs.

I'm glad to be of service, and in this case I feel I'm doing double duty, first by providing some entertainment and then by hopefully supplying some knowledge of jazz. With that in mind I think I'll do what I stated in my last message and "move on" to a new discussion about live jazz recordings. Hope to see you there.

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I hate to resurrect a dead thread (well, okay, maybe not), but as a "noob" to this forum, I was reading through the thread and appreciated a lot of the comments regarding listening to music rather than equipment. I think a lot of audiophiles like to listen to their equipment rather than listen to music on their equipment. To me the music has always mattered the most. I'll be honest, I'd rather listen to great music on not so great equipment then crappy, unengaging music on audiophile state of the art.

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I hate to resurrect a dead thread (well, okay, maybe not), but as a "noob" to this forum, I was reading through the thread and appreciated a lot of the comments regarding listening to music rather than equipment. I think a lot of audiophiles like to listen to their equipment rather than listen to music on their equipment. To me the music has always mattered the most. I'll be honest, I'd rather listen to great music on not so great equipment then crappy, unengaging music on audiophile state of the art.

BluesDaddy,

Those are words to live by sir, just always try to keep that in mind.

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Those are words to live by sir, just always try to keep that in mind.


Thanks. While I've only just started listening to jazz, I've been into Hi-Fi since watching my dad (who was, and still is, a huge jazz fan) a Dynaco Pat-4 and ST-400 in the late 60s. Music has always been the thing, though moving up in equipment quality has helped me appreciate it all the more.

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Maybe we can liven up the thread with a "most irritating crowd noise on a disc" list!

My vote would be "A Waltz for Debby" - too realistic, too annoying!

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Maybe we can liven up the thread with a "most irritating crowd noise on a disc" list!

My vote would be "A Waltz for Debby" - too realistic, too annoying!

Funny...it's one of my absolute favorites!

RG

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I have JATPS on vinyl. Great sound, mediocre musicianship by musicians who sound just a little better than amatuers. They play with a lot of "brio" despite not having great chops. Amanda McBroom one word "booooring". Try Buddy Rich Class of 78 on direct to disc.

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Cool jazz, smooth jazz, old jazz,modern jazz,does any of it make any sense? Problem is, I never know where it starts, where is the middle, when will it end? It's always sounding like they are tuning their instruments, and never getting it right! What am i doing wrong? What am I missing?

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This is not a reply to Jahn but rather my personal opinion about jatps. It is a good recorded lp.Even the cd and xrcd sounds good.The music is good too.Perhaps nothing to shout about but still,good ! The reason most audiophiles don't want to hear about this record,is because a few years back,if you went in a hi-fi shop asking to listen to a systen,quess which was the only record they had ! lol

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DUP,

You are a good one for baiting someone into a nice heated argument but I'm not falling for the nice shiny lure this time. So with that in mind here's my simple primer for jazz listening.

"I never know where it starts" - That's an easy one, whenever you press the play button.

"where is the middle" - Another real easy one, during the long boring sax, trumpet, piano, bass or drum solo.

"when will it end?" - Still another easy one, (drum roll please) when you press the stop button.

And you keep saying that you can't hear "strand jumping", I beg to differ. Ever listen to Cecil Taylor? Best strand jumper in the business, bar none.

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I guess that is why BCD (before CD's) the vinyl selections I always carried with me when auditioning were For Duke, The Bill Berry All Stars M&K Real Time Direct to Disc with the Buddy Rich Class of 78 also Direct to Disc and Charlie Byrd 45RPM Direct to Disc on Crystal Clear

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In reply to the Waltz for Debby post previously, I agree, it's a wonderful performance! But I'd still chalk it up as one of the most irritating as far as the crowd noise goes. It always freaks me out when I have the STAX Lambda Pros on my noggin and I turn my head when I hear folks chattering to my right - but it's just the waiters yammering on near the kitchen while Bill Evans is trying to do his thing. For some reason I can tune that stuff out in a real live performance, but my ears pick up every tiny detail at home and "take me out" of a recorded live performance.

To stay on topic, JATPS is indeed way high fidelity, but just doesn't get my blood pumping if you know what I mean.

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I once owned a pair of Stax phones and experienced that same feeling with them. I was listening to a live something or other and the person sitting over my right shoulder was fighting a cough and sore throat. It was so annoying that I kept wanting to turn around and ask her (yes her!) to move. Sadly, not enough recordings are made that way. Most studio recordings are strictly between your left and right ear and straight through your head. Music coming from inside my head has always felt kind of creepy to me. Perhaps that's why I gave those Stax phones to a buddie who needs headphones for late night listening. I suppose its also the reason I've never bought another pair of headphones.

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I've been thinking this over and I have decided that I could live the rest of my life without hearing that disc and would not feel the least bit deprived.

I also think that this would be true even among people who think the disc is OK.

It has no lasting personal impact.

It is hi-fi grade elevator music.

If it were a wine, it would be said to have no "finish."

If you saw the movie "Sideways"...JATPS is merlot.

If every JATPS LP and disc magically erased itself today, I bet no one would notice until the Stereophile Show in June, or maybe not until next CES.

I can't think of a food metaphor. Maybe vanilla ice cream without the vanilla?

(Disclaimer: Don't mind me, I'm just feeling iconoclastic today.)

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>I can't think of a food metaphor. Maybe vanilla ice cream without the vanilla?<

While not slamming JATP, I think this does a disservice to Vanilla ice cream. Store-bought 'nilla made with faux vanilla beans and filled with guar gum is pretty much like eating a chilled sponge, but the real, home-cranked stuff made with Tahitian beans is like tasting a single malt whiskey after a lifetime of drinking Baker Street -- you suddenly ask yourself, "If this is vanilla, what have I beeen eating all these years?"

Oh, maybe the store-bought stuff is what JATP is like, from a jazz perspective. But those glasses clinking sure do sound real.

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While not slamming JATP, I think this does a disservice to Vanilla ice cream. Store-bought 'nilla made with faux vanilla beans and filled with guar gum is pretty much like eating a chilled sponge, but the real, home-cranked stuff made with Tahitian beans is like tasting a single malt whiskey after a lifetime of drinking Baker Street -- you suddenly ask yourself, "If this is vanilla, what have I beeen eating all these years?"

Oh, maybe the store-bought stuff is what JATP is like, from a jazz perspective. But those glasses clinking sure do sound real.

Wes,

I've had some store bought 'nilla ice cream with some great tasting guar gum but I'm really not that thrilled by the taste of guar gum. Likewise I'm not that thrilled by the sound of glasses clinking, no matter how real they sound.

I pretty much stated my case in my first two or three salvos of this thread so I won't go on another rant here. I do find it rather amusing that JATPS keeps on generating interest even after the thread has been inactive for quite some time.

Why, oh why, isn't there an audiophile approved live recording of the great Louis Armstrong. Please. All I want is just one CD's worth of audiophile approved Satchmo

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Wes , well put. It reminds me of the surround modes of yamaha av amplifiers.When you first setup your system,you fool around with them saying to yourself "WOW" and then you never use them again !

p.s. Chocolate rules hehehehe

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Two points, Jazzfan: 1.) Even HagnDaz (sic?) vanilla is damned tasty, but like JATP, I rarely want it. 2.) Much more importantly, if the Audio Fidelity LP "Satchmo Plays King Oliver" and the Columbia Composers' Series SACD "Louis Armstrong play W. C. Handy aren't "Audiophile Approved" then no recording should be. On another tack, if you could find a way to get money to the musicians on a bootleg that you enjoy, would you do it?

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Two points, Jazzfan: 1.) Even HagnDaz (sic?) vanilla is damned tasty, but like JATP, I rarely want it. 2.) Much more importantly, if the Audio Fidelity LP "Satchmo Plays King Oliver" and the Columbia Composers' Series SACD "Louis Armstrong play W. C. Handy aren't "Audiophile Approved" then no recording should be. On another tack, if you could find a way to get money to the musicians on a bootleg that you enjoy, would you do it?

Very good points. The Armstrong discs are indeed audiophile worthy efforts and although they are from later in his career they are still very fine, wonderful and enjoyable recordings.

As for your second question, that's a tough one to answer. Assuming that the musicians were paid for the original concert and that the bootleg was not purchased nor will it be used as a redplacement for buying the musicians official releases, I don't know that all bootlegs need to be paid for. For example, all of the recordings available on archive.org are freely given by the musicians for the enjoyment of their fans. As a courtesy and as a gesture of support to those bands that I enjoy and who's music I download, I try to purchase their official releases whenever possible. So yes, you could say that I do try to give money to the musicians who see fit to share their music. Of the nine artists on my top ten bootlegs list I would say that I own the majority of their commercially released material and that's a whole lot of music.

Lastly, since the spring of 2003 I have had type 2 diabetes and I can rarely get to enjoy any flavor of ice cream - store bought or home made. A bourbon analogy would have worked much better for me.

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I think we'd both have problems with a bourbon analogy too. I doubt than either of us is that familiar with cheap bourbon.

As for the Louis Armstrong material, you obviously have to go late in his career to get "audiophile" characteristics. The Louis and Ella duets are also late in both of their careers but I still play that LP a lot, and I couldn't resist the SACD. Now if you want to talk about music for music lovers, I offer one of my prize possessions - Louis Armstrong Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man 1923-1934. This four CD set (which I suspect you also have) includes the old OKeh, Brunswick, Polydor and Victor stuff - 81 recordings in all - as well as great liner notes and commentary as well as photos and clippings from Louis' own collection. Doesn't get any better than this stuff.

Regards downloads, my only problem is I operate on a dialup connection - too slow to get much involved with any kind of downloading. I just couldn't resist putting you on about the gratuitous excuse for not paying for them. Seemed a little out of character for you to make excuses about anything.

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Clay,

At first I was going to response further to your question regarding payment to the musicians for bootlegs but it's so far off the thread topic that I decided to answer it in the Bootleg Manifesto thread over in the Rock section of the forum.

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I just know Ralph is going to be the first kid on the block to run out and get this...

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I saw the ad a week or so ago and thought of buying him a copy but I'm too cheap.

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I just know Ralph is going to be the first kid on the block to run out and get this...

Jeff and Clay,

I almost thought about picking one up since it is a limited edition (only 3000 copies worldwide) and by taking one for myself that would mean one less person would be able to buy a copy, thus saving some poor soul from this dreck.

Now if there was only a way to rid the world of that other audiophile monstrosity, HP's all time favorite, the "Casino Royale" soundtrack. Ouch, my ears hurt just from typing the name of that garbage.

I'm going to have to cleanse myself with some Art Ensemble of Chicago and Cecil Taylor when I get home tonight.

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90 bucks.

For that kind of money, instead of JATP, I could buy the Weather Channel DVD set and watch the weather reports for June, 1977 over and over.

I love this thread.

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I wondered when that Casino Royale disc would sneak a mention.

Poor Dusty.

Guilty confession: I have a 12" single of that song.

But, that being said, I'd rather play it continuosly for 90 minutes instead of sitting through JATP one more time.

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90 bucks.

For that kind of money, instead of JATP, I could buy the Weather Channel DVD set and watch the weather reports for June, 1977 over and over.

I love this thread.

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I wondered when that Casino Royale disc would sneak a mention.

Poor Dusty.

Guilty confession: I have a 12" single of that song.

But, that being said, I'd rather play it continuosly for 90 minutes instead of sitting through JATP one more time.

Buddha,

There's only one thing wrong with your Weather Channel solution: there was no Weather Channel in 1977. I'm afraid that you'll be stuck with June 1997 instead. But don't despair since June 1997 had some really excellent weather and the WC DVD captures it with amazingly lifelike detail. Depending on the caliber of the playback system you might even need an umbrella for the rainy sections.

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Yikes!

No Weather Channel?!?

Dang. I don't know how we survived back then.

Oh, well. My mother-in-law wonders how I ever survived without her supervising my driving.

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Well I am going to commit the ultimate blasphemy and declare Jazz at the pawnshop to be one of my absolute favorite records for the music. The fact that it is well recorded is the icing on the cake. But then I have always had a soft spot for vibes. Anything by the MJQ certainly floats my boat. Other favorites:

1. Brubeck

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"Well I am going to commit the ultimate blasphemy and declare Jazz at the pawnshop to be one of my absolute favorite records for the music. The fact that it is well recorded is the icing on the cake." -haziz

Frak yeah! I heard this when I was 16 or 17, I am 35 now and have always come back for more. There is no accounting for other peoples taste, you either like it or you do not. I happen to revere "Bitches Brew", does this make me wrong?
As far as live "test-quality" recordings go I prefer "Ricochet" by Tangerine Dream.

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What on earth ever made you go and dig up this old thread as the subject of your first post??

In any event, welcome to the forum and please join in on a few threads that still have a little life left in them.

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Frak yeah!

Welcome, Galactica fan!

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